Android phones are adopted by a younger demographic and are typically the first smartphones when users switch from feature phones. That usually means the 18-25 year old crowd. Also, a huge number of Android handsets are cheapo touch screens sold in southeast Asia, that largely function as touch screen feature phones since there is little app purchasing and activity from that region.
You'll find a lot more Android handsets at schools.
Air travelers are a pretty different demographic for the majority of the year. A big percentage of normal air travelers fall into that prime consumer demographic: 30-59, college educated professional, excellent amount of disposable income, especially outside of the seasonal holiday travel.
Or maybe they're using the super fast LTE network which in many cases faster than the wifi every Tom, Dick, and Harry is using.
BTW AI, have you thought about doing some investigative journalism on these fantastical claims by Samsung/Google? I work at a major airport in Florida and when running a simple network scan on the free Wi-Fi service, it invariably shows about 90% connections from Apple devices vice anything else. Where are all these Android phones hiding?
Europe, Asia, Oceana. I get the impression Samsung is far more prominent in markets outside the US than within.
BTW AI, have you thought about doing some investigative journalism on these fantastical claims by Samsung/Google? I work at a major airport in Florida and when running a simple network scan on the free Wi-Fi service, it invariably shows about 90% connections from Apple devices vice anything else. Where are all these Android phones hiding?
There are a lot of devices outside the USA, but also, inside the USA Apple sells half of the smartphones, plus iPod touches and iPads. No doubt Apple should be most popular at an airport in Florida. A lot of evidence around the net suggest about 1/2of Android phones are really used more like feature phones than like app phones. That should further skew wi-fi data to Apple.
<span style="background-color:rgb(241,241,241);">It looks like they have learned from the righty/wingnut/ repuglican play book. Tell a lie often enough and long enough it becomes their truth.</span>
<span style="background-color:rgb(241,241,241);">there fixed it for you...</span>
What did you expect from a guy who's name is Whitey? Truth is that both parties lie.
We do know that if Samsung's numbers were better than the Analyst reports they would be releasing them. Maybe the IDC estimate of 42 million was too low for them so they asked Juniper to make up a higher number. The obvious threat to these companies is that Samsung releases their own numbers and the analysts sell a lot less $2000 reports.
Samsung does not release any such number. This is just made up by some analyst.
Of course they don't:
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Galaxy S3 smartphone sales top 10 mln mark: executive
SEOUL, July 22 (Yonhap) -- Samsung Electronics Co.'s global sales of its Galaxy S3 smartphones have surpassed the 10 million mark less than two months after its official release, a senior executive of the world's largest mobile phone maker said Sunday.
Shin Jong-kyun, the president of Samsung's information technology and mobile communication division, told reporters that the phone has become a 10-million seller after it was first unveiled on May 29 in London. He, however, did not give exact numbers.
This translates into about 190,000 Galaxy S3s being sold every day, and easily ahead of its very popular predecessor -- the Galaxy S2 -- that reported sales hitting 10 million, five months after it reached consumers.
Apple does not operate in a vacuum. They very much do see what competitors have. And they very much do take ideas from competitors and put into their own products along with the original stuff that they come up with themselves.
Any company that operates in a bubble without keeping an eye on what the competition is doing will soon be dead.
Matter of fact, Apple even regularly sends employees to events like CES where they have no booth even, just to see what the competition is up to.
Exactly, much of the tech Apple uses in their devices was invented by someone else and Apple bought the company. A single company no matter how big can think of everything.
Also, a huge number of Android handsets are cheapo touch screens sold in southeast Asia, that largely function as touch screen feature phones since there is little app purchasing and activity from that region.
I betcha had you worked at the best airport in the world for the 7th year running, Incheon Airport in South Korea, you'd be asking different question...
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Originally Posted by markbyrn
BTW AI, have you thought about doing some investigative journalism on these fantastical claims by Samsung/Google? I work at a major airport in Florida and when running a simple network scan on the free Wi-Fi service, it invariably shows about 90% connections from Apple devices vice anything else. Where are all these Android phones hiding?
Of course it is. It is by definition. The next iPhone isn't the iPhone 5, also by definition.
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Originally Posted by JerrySwitched26
Please tell us your "definition".
It seems that everyone in the world is calling the next iPhone the iPhone 5, except for a vanishingly small number of people who think that their idiosycratic definitions are "correct".
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Originally Posted by Freshmaker
Which isn't the iPhone 5.
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Originally Posted by Woodlink
Of course, this headline will be meaningless when the iPhone 5 is released.
BTW AI, have you thought about doing some investigative journalism on these fantastical claims by Samsung/Google? I work at a major airport in Florida and when running a simple network scan on the free Wi-Fi service, it invariably shows about 90% connections from Apple devices vice anything else. Where are all these Android phones hiding?
Europe and Asia? The Samsung Galaxy SIII is incredibly popular in the UK.
The amount of butthurt in this thread is hilarious. Go check Samsung's quarterly reports - they're making a lot of money at the moment. It's pretty obvious that they're not stuffing the channel.
BOO ON APPLE INSIDER! Can't you tell the difference between "sales" and "shipments", and can't you mention that for clarity in your article?
Agreed. Compare this to CNET, whose article on the same topic says: "But before we go too far with the Samsung-killing-Apple rhetoric, it's important to point out that the "shipments" Juniper is citing for the iPhone are actually sales. Shipments, on the other hand, do not necessarily mean that all devices are sold. In Apple's case, all of the so-called "shipments" by Juniper were actually sales."
- Samsung sells a variety of phones. But there is more than one iPhone too - 3GS, 4, 4S. So comparing the totals is not completely unreasonable, but is also far from telling the whole story.
- Even if "shipped">>"sold", Samsung is not writing down 10s of millions of units in inventory. So the number of "sold" units must be quite decent.
- We can't ignore the fact that in North America, iPhones are so much more visible (not the case in Europe or Asia). Having said that, Samsung introduced Galaxy S3 (and S2 as well?) outside of NA first. That might explain some of the discrepancy, but not all. IMO, there aren't just more iPhones in consumers' hands, people also use their iPhones more - an observation also validated by mobile internet use stats.
It seems that everyone in the world is calling the next iPhone the iPhone 5, except for a vanishingly small number of people who think that their idiosycratic definitions are "correct".
And everyone called the iPhone 3G "iPhone 2" before launch. Not to put too fine a point on it, but they're all idiots (these tech sites that perpetuate this crap), whining about how the iPhone 5 didn't come out last year, so it must be coming out this year.
Originally Posted by Harbinger
Why do you all persist in this silly game?
Because I'm correct. The next iPhone is not "5" in any way. Except, probably, five star in rating systems that haven't devolved into the pathetic Like/Dislike nonsense.
I KNOW. for the last 2 years, Samsung have been shipping over 35 million or so smartphones per quarter. And of those, only about 4 million get sold (We know this from basic mathematics based on the pi x sqrt B.S. formula). We all know that carriers happily just take MILLIONS of product, quarter after quarter and stack them high in their back room which has the properties of a black hole so it can fit an infinite amount of Samsung phones in a very small place by causing a rip in the fabric of space and time and forming a gravitational singularity.
Then, Samsung ships even MORE the next quarter and its the same story. I'm serious, go to any verizon or vodafone and go look in the back, there are millions of Samsung phones there and the sad part....the people who own the stores just keep ordering MORE. I mean seriously, they ship MORE AND MORE every quarter. Sooner or later the those black holes containing millions of unsold Samsung phones will merge together to create a supermassive black hole which will feed on the even more millions of Samsung phones that are ordered by the carriers every quarter and never sold, and soon the world will be engulfed and swallowed up and the human race will end all because of the millions of unsold Samsung smartphones in the black holes in the back room of every carrier around the world.
Its the only logical explanation. I mean, its either that.....or the phones actually sell. But the phones actually selling is not very plausible, since nobody buys a Samsung phone, so yeah. Black holes in the back of every store.
Excellent post.
It seems many fanbois simply can't possibly accept the fact that some people are happy to buy a Samsung phone over an iPhone and will use any excuse to try and discredit the figures.
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Or maybe they're using the super fast LTE network which in many cases faster than the wifi every Tom, Dick, and Harry is using.
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Originally Posted by markbyrn
BTW AI, have you thought about doing some investigative journalism on these fantastical claims by Samsung/Google? I work at a major airport in Florida and when running a simple network scan on the free Wi-Fi service, it invariably shows about 90% connections from Apple devices vice anything else. Where are all these Android phones hiding?
Europe, Asia, Oceana. I get the impression Samsung is far more prominent in markets outside the US than within.
There are a lot of devices outside the USA, but also, inside the USA Apple sells half of the smartphones, plus iPod touches and iPads. No doubt Apple should be most popular at an airport in Florida. A lot of evidence around the net suggest about 1/2of Android phones are really used more like feature phones than like app phones. That should further skew wi-fi data to Apple.
What did you expect from a guy who's name is Whitey? Truth is that both parties lie.
It is irrelevant...Quality over Quantity any day
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Originally Posted by Wovel
Samsung does not release any such number. This is just made up by some analyst.
Of course they don't:
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Galaxy S3 smartphone sales top 10 mln mark: executive
SEOUL, July 22 (Yonhap) -- Samsung Electronics Co.'s global sales of its Galaxy S3 smartphones have surpassed the 10 million mark less than two months after its official release, a senior executive of the world's largest mobile phone maker said Sunday.
Shin Jong-kyun, the president of Samsung's information technology and mobile communication division, told reporters that the phone has become a 10-million seller after it was first unveiled on May 29 in London. He, however, did not give exact numbers.
This translates into about 190,000 Galaxy S3s being sold every day, and easily ahead of its very popular predecessor -- the Galaxy S2 -- that reported sales hitting 10 million, five months after it reached consumers.
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/techscience/2012/07/22/99/0601000000AEN20120722002300320F.HTML
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
What did you expect from a guy who's name is Whitey? Truth is that both parties lie.
they all do lie, thats for sure. but you have to pick your poison or you have no reason to complain.
Exactly, much of the tech Apple uses in their devices was invented by someone else and Apple bought the company. A single company no matter how big can think of everything.
Here's a typical low end Android phone. 600MHz CPU, 240x320 screen, QVGA video recording at 15 frames per second.
I betcha had you worked at the best airport in the world for the 7th year running, Incheon Airport in South Korea, you'd be asking different question...
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Originally Posted by markbyrn
BTW AI, have you thought about doing some investigative journalism on these fantastical claims by Samsung/Google? I work at a major airport in Florida and when running a simple network scan on the free Wi-Fi service, it invariably shows about 90% connections from Apple devices vice anything else. Where are all these Android phones hiding?
Some of you on here need to work in PR, I've never seen better spin doctoring.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Of course it is. It is by definition. The next iPhone isn't the iPhone 5, also by definition.
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Originally Posted by JerrySwitched26
Please tell us your "definition".
It seems that everyone in the world is calling the next iPhone the iPhone 5, except for a vanishingly small number of people who think that their idiosycratic definitions are "correct".
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Originally Posted by Freshmaker
Which isn't the iPhone 5.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodlink
Of course, this headline will be meaningless when the iPhone 5 is released.
Why do you all persist in this silly game?
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Originally Posted by markbyrn
BTW AI, have you thought about doing some investigative journalism on these fantastical claims by Samsung/Google? I work at a major airport in Florida and when running a simple network scan on the free Wi-Fi service, it invariably shows about 90% connections from Apple devices vice anything else. Where are all these Android phones hiding?
Europe and Asia? The Samsung Galaxy SIII is incredibly popular in the UK.
The amount of butthurt in this thread is hilarious. Go check Samsung's quarterly reports - they're making a lot of money at the moment. It's pretty obvious that they're not stuffing the channel.
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Originally Posted by AZREOSpecialist
BOO ON APPLE INSIDER! Can't you tell the difference between "sales" and "shipments", and can't you mention that for clarity in your article?
Agreed. Compare this to CNET, whose article on the same topic says: "But before we go too far with the Samsung-killing-Apple rhetoric, it's important to point out that the "shipments" Juniper is citing for the iPhone are actually sales. Shipments, on the other hand, do not necessarily mean that all devices are sold. In Apple's case, all of the so-called "shipments" by Juniper were actually sales."
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57480412-37/samsung-ships-52.1-million-smartphones-in-q2-doubles-iphone/
Likely "shipped" > "sold". Perhaps even >>.
But there are three valid questions/points:
- Samsung sells a variety of phones. But there is more than one iPhone too - 3GS, 4, 4S. So comparing the totals is not completely unreasonable, but is also far from telling the whole story.
- Even if "shipped">>"sold", Samsung is not writing down 10s of millions of units in inventory. So the number of "sold" units must be quite decent.
- We can't ignore the fact that in North America, iPhones are so much more visible (not the case in Europe or Asia). Having said that, Samsung introduced Galaxy S3 (and S2 as well?) outside of NA first. That might explain some of the discrepancy, but not all. IMO, there aren't just more iPhones in consumers' hands, people also use their iPhones more - an observation also validated by mobile internet use stats.
Originally Posted by JerrySwitched26
Please tell us your "definition".
Hardware generation.
It seems that everyone in the world is calling the next iPhone the iPhone 5, except for a vanishingly small number of people who think that their idiosycratic definitions are "correct".
And everyone called the iPhone 3G "iPhone 2" before launch. Not to put too fine a point on it, but they're all idiots (these tech sites that perpetuate this crap), whining about how the iPhone 5 didn't come out last year, so it must be coming out this year.
Originally Posted by Harbinger
Why do you all persist in this silly game?
Because I'm correct. The next iPhone is not "5" in any way. Except, probably, five star in rating systems that haven't devolved into the pathetic Like/Dislike nonsense.
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Originally Posted by JerrySwitched26
All I ever see are iPhones. I never see anything else in the wild. /s
That is almost exactly right, your silly sarcasm tag notwithstanding. Go and troll somewhere else, man.
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Originally Posted by sleepy3
I KNOW. for the last 2 years, Samsung have been shipping over 35 million or so smartphones per quarter. And of those, only about 4 million get sold (We know this from basic mathematics based on the pi x sqrt B.S. formula). We all know that carriers happily just take MILLIONS of product, quarter after quarter and stack them high in their back room which has the properties of a black hole so it can fit an infinite amount of Samsung phones in a very small place by causing a rip in the fabric of space and time and forming a gravitational singularity.
Then, Samsung ships even MORE the next quarter and its the same story. I'm serious, go to any verizon or vodafone and go look in the back, there are millions of Samsung phones there and the sad part....the people who own the stores just keep ordering MORE. I mean seriously, they ship MORE AND MORE every quarter. Sooner or later the those black holes containing millions of unsold Samsung phones will merge together to create a supermassive black hole which will feed on the even more millions of Samsung phones that are ordered by the carriers every quarter and never sold, and soon the world will be engulfed and swallowed up and the human race will end all because of the millions of unsold Samsung smartphones in the black holes in the back room of every carrier around the world.
Its the only logical explanation. I mean, its either that.....or the phones actually sell. But the phones actually selling is not very plausible, since nobody buys a Samsung phone, so yeah. Black holes in the back of every store.
Excellent post.
It seems many fanbois simply can't possibly accept the fact that some people are happy to buy a Samsung phone over an iPhone and will use any excuse to try and discredit the figures.
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Originally Posted by Wovel
Samsung does not release any such number. This is just made up by some analyst.
This is exactly right.
You think any sane organization wouldn't be shouting audited numbers like this from their rooftops if it were actually true?