You don't think this will sell well huh. LOL Sorry for the laugh but, all due respect, that is a ridiculous take.
I think it looks great but then again I don't care about having the biggest screen or most megapixels or whatever. Software is what really counts and Apple has been a leader in this regard and continues to be. The 16x9 is fine with me, I'll be upgrading from my old iPhone 4 as soon as I'm able to.
I'm sure it will sell well. But that doesn't mean it's what I'm hoping for. I want a new design, after having this design in my hand for 2 years now. Then again, if they take the additional height and add NOTHING but battery to fill it, I will be somewhat mollified. I don't want double sided glass though. Tired of it.
4) I do wonder what most of the back is made of. Is that liquid which is why there is an odd unfinished milling effect to the inside backing? What is it for? Structure? Air flow? A conductive charging plate?
Could be that inductive charging is going to be the "wow" feature this time around and that this will be a truly "cordless" iPhone.
…and if the iPhone 5 does look like this than that will be a true statement.
Well, the 5th iPhone did look like that. And it sold more than any other. Boom goes the argument?
Originally Posted by Minnesota_Steve
Couple of things that make this fake are: 1) The microphone jack placement and 2) the thickness. You can tell this just by looking at the size of the device around the input jack for the microphone/headset. It is the same thickness as current models.
1. So what? Did you do one of those delightful photoshop hack jobs where they take the size of an element, skew it, stack it, and extrapolate the size of the device from said element?
I remember back on MacRumors people did that with the invitation for the unveiling of the unibody MacBook Pro. Turns out, they were completely and utterly wrong. The invite made a square computer.
Also the placement of that Jack on the bottom is not really not going to occur. I have to thing those holes for the microphone and the speaker are highly unlikely. Can you say "lint"?
Yeah, because there's absolutely no way lint can get into the holes of the speaker and microphone of the last five models of… OH WAIT…
???????
Originally Posted by tylerk36
But from the look at the picture we won't have the micro SD card. Maybe in the iPhone 5s.
I refuse to believe anyone is actually still holding on to this five year old fantasy. Give it a rest.
Originally Posted by Gyorgy Peto
1. HTC ONE X and SAMSUNG GALAXY SIII already blow the 4S out of the water.
lol, except no.
2. Apple needs to come up with something very spectacular to fend off Android supremecy
lol, except no.
3. I could not beleive that Ivy and his team would come up with a phone that looks this shit.
1. It's 'Ive'. As in "Sir Jonathan Ive".
2. This looks like the last two phones. Either you're a hypocrite or you hated those, too, in which case you wouldn't be saying anything at all in particular about THIS model, meaning you're a hypocrite.
4. ....this is an insult to any apple lover
That would be you, I think.
Originally Posted by Hellacool
Steve was never satisfied and that died with him.
{Intelligence needed.}
Originally Posted by bigpics
Yes and no....... ...the iP4 was "tick" and the 4s the "tock" on the 2 year contract cycle. At 1st glance - assuming it's remotely real - this "feels" more like "toooock" than a new tick.
I'm not sure that we can say this. Apple doesn't tick/tock with any of their other designs. The Intel analogy doesn't really fit, I think.
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
A conductive charging plate?
Oh, please no. I hope it's just LiquidMetal.
Originally Posted by Rokrad
I have a strong feeling that this iPhone will be named just "The new iPhone"
????
Originally Posted by cycomiko
Gotta say that I'm a fan of the one on the left. Hearkens back to the first iPhone, and with a silver back it's gorgeous.
Originally Posted by cycomiko
very few people are so shallow as to buy the iPhone for its external appearance.
"No. That's wrong. Everyone only buys the iPhone because of how it looks. The iPhone 4S wasn't even a new phone. It was the exact same phone as the year before. If Apple thinks they can sell the same phone for three years, they have another thing coming. Apple is doomed. It's the same phone. No, it's the same phone. Same…"
And that's the point where you whack the record player to get it to quit skipping.
I'm sure it will sell well. But that doesn't mean it's what I'm hoping for. I want a new design, after having this design in my hand for 2 years now. Then again, if they take the additional height and add NOTHING but battery to fill it, I will be somewhat mollified. I don't want double sided glass though. Tired of it.
See, I don' t want a new design for the sake of a new design — that's how the Android crowd and children make choices — I want the best possible design. If that means they keep the same basic design for several years then so be it, but radically changing everything every year doesn't do the consumer any favors and you end up with the problem Nokia faced with their radical designs that just threw everything at the way to see what stuck.
Nor do I. The current iPhone design is iconic, instantly recognizable.Why change more than is necessary to accommodate the larger display? As for the possibility of a two-toned back, I like it. myself.
I think it fits more with Apple's Mac designs as well:
I have a strong feeling that we will see parallel development of an iPhone this size and of the original sized models. The goal for Apple is to cover a wider array of user needs. The big model will be the LTE machine for a couple of years while the 4S class machine receives other improvements to keep it modern.
I like the idea of a three phone line up. That is an iPhone Maxi, Midi and Mini. The Midi would amount to the current 4S class machines. This would cover just about every users and would more effectively take on or over for iPod slack.
My problem with people wanting Inductive charging is that tend to express it as a replacement for a cabled connector whereas any reasonable inclusion would be in addition to the cable charging, just as we have wireless and wireless syncing as of iOS 5.
But why use LiquidMetal on the back at all? It's the odd ridges that make me think it's not your standard metal. Could an inductive plate transfer more power faster and with less heat or loss of energy if LM was between the two? I don't know; I'm just trying to understand how these very precise and finished looking components would still have these unusual elements to the back plate.
...Yes, you know I hate the Home button, wish it is gone for good, or at least got squeezed at the bottom...
I seriously doubt the round Home button with the square picture will change any time soon. It's one of the defining features of the iPhone. Besides it's very useful for quickly turning on the phone with a quick push and swipe with the thumb, which is better than some Droid units out there that only has a power button on top or off to the sides.
It is really a case of these people just displaying their ignorance. Apples antenna designs are really amazing and are technology marvels. People should really enlighten themselves a bit before posting, talk to a ham radio operator about antennas for a bit for example or read a book or two. Antennas in and of themselves are fascinating, there are some mighty strange designs out there.
The original iPhone 4 GSM had the WiFi/BT antenna externally, but the iPhone 4 CDMA and iPhone 4S moved the WiFi/T antenna internally, like other phones. It's funny how the external antenna was deemed such a failure by certain posters and then when they moved it inside it wasn't the one those certain posters ever claimed was a problem.
I have a strong feeling that we will see parallel development of an iPhone this size and of the original sized models. The goal for Apple is to cover a wider array of user needs. The big model will be the LTE machine for a couple of years while the 4S class machine receives other improvements to keep it modern.
I like the idea of a three phone line up. That is an iPhone Maxi, Midi and Mini. The Midi would amount to the current 4S class machines. This would cover just about every users and would more effectively take on or over for iPod slack.
That's what I think would be a good path for them. Maybe 4 phones. The premier 4+ inch phone, the "classic" 3.5 inch iPhone, a "Mini" iPod phone, and an iPhone for the prepaid market (ie the 3GS). They could hit Android on every playing field easily.
The Apple haters are already mounting to exclaim how Apple didn't invent this feature.
My problem with people wanting Inductive charging is that tend to express it as a replacement for a cabled connector whereas any reasonable inclusion would be in addition to the cable charging, just as we have wireless and wireless syncing as of iOS 5.
But why use LiquidMetal on the back at all? It's the odd ridges that make me think it's not your standard metal. Could an inductive plate transfer more power faster and with less heat or loss of energy if LM was between the two? I don't know; I'm just trying to understand how these very precise and finished looking components would still have these unusual elements to the back plate.
Apple does have patents for the feature though, so I'm assuming we'll see inductive charging debut on this iPhone.
You're right that people will exclaim Apple stole the feature, but the Palm that debuted the feature is long gone and the entire Palm empire is folded. I don't know of any current smartphones with the feature either.
Anyway I'm sure if Apple does introduce Inductive Charging they'll do something special with it, maybe with magnets or something to make you're entire phone into a big magsafe connected to a "Touchstone-like" brick. But we'll see.
If Apple had only used, say, that iPhone 4 design for one year the same posters would just say that Apple changed it up so radically because it was a failure. IOW, Apple can't win with people, like DaHarder, because it's either proof that the previous version was a failure (despite Apple's market profits) or proof that Apple has gotten complacent. Now they'll argue that Steve Jobs would have never done this or that regardless of what Apple does. They claim now, after the fact, that Apple had all the answers under Jobs despite then claiming Apple was ready to fail at every turn under Jobs, but now that Jobs is gone you best buy from another company because there is no way Apple function as of October 5th, 2011.
I will never understand why so many people get hung up on how the phone looks. Really how many different ways can you make s smartphone look? The days of the Blackberry look are over almost all smartphones on some level are going to look like what Apple or Samsung put out. For me its the iOS improvements that I care about. Larger screen size with the same form factor I would welcome.
Other point I would raise with many saying this is fake. When the possible rumors of the New iPad came out I did not believe it was going to have a Retina display and LTE. Almost every rumor about the new iPad on this forum turned out to be true. The same with the latest Macbook Pro when it came to the Retina display. The conclusion that I have come to is now that Steve Jobs as passed the Apple product leaks have greatly increased. It appears at least to me as vast majority of the leaks turn out to be true.
I could be way off but that is how I see it. The only thing I believe SJ would flip his shit over is Siri. There are times I love Siri there are times I almost throw my phone out the car window.
Apple does have patents for the feature though, so I'm assuming we'll see inductive charging debut on this iPhone.
You're right that people will exclaim Apple stole the feature, but the Palm that debuted the feature is long gone and the entire Palm empire is folded. I don't know of any current smartphones with the feature either.
Anyway I'm sure if Apple does introduce Inductive Charging they'll do something special with it, maybe with magnets or something to make you're entire phone into a big magsafe connected to a "Touchstone-like" brick. But we'll see.
The patent is for an inductive charging dock/station and not on the actual technology. There's plenty of inductive chargers on the market now.
Btw I for one like the design and will be getting my girl the new iPhone regardless of what it looks like.
So this allegedly is coming from a Japanese iPhone repair facility based on leaked parts from China and people say this looks legit? How would an Japanese iPhone repair facility get their hands on leaked parts from China?
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Originally Posted by BadFlounder
You don't think this will sell well huh. LOL Sorry for the laugh but, all due respect, that is a ridiculous take.
I think it looks great but then again I don't care about having the biggest screen or most megapixels or whatever. Software is what really counts and Apple has been a leader in this regard and continues to be. The 16x9 is fine with me, I'll be upgrading from my old iPhone 4 as soon as I'm able to.
I'm sure it will sell well. But that doesn't mean it's what I'm hoping for. I want a new design, after having this design in my hand for 2 years now. Then again, if they take the additional height and add NOTHING but battery to fill it, I will be somewhat mollified. I don't want double sided glass though. Tired of it.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
4) I do wonder what most of the back is made of. Is that liquid which is why there is an odd unfinished milling effect to the inside backing? What is it for? Structure? Air flow? A conductive charging plate?
Could be that inductive charging is going to be the "wow" feature this time around and that this will be a truly "cordless" iPhone.
Originally Posted by Hellacool
…innovation died with Steve Jobs…
No, but intelligence seems to have.
…and if the iPhone 5 does look like this than that will be a true statement.
Well, the 5th iPhone did look like that. And it sold more than any other. Boom goes the argument?
Originally Posted by Minnesota_Steve
Couple of things that make this fake are: 1) The microphone jack placement and 2) the thickness. You can tell this just by looking at the size of the device around the input jack for the microphone/headset. It is the same thickness as current models.
1. So what? Did you do one of those delightful photoshop hack jobs where they take the size of an element, skew it, stack it, and extrapolate the size of the device from said element?
I remember back on MacRumors people did that with the invitation for the unveiling of the unibody MacBook Pro. Turns out, they were completely and utterly wrong. The invite made a square computer.
Also the placement of that Jack on the bottom is not really not going to occur. I have to thing those holes for the microphone and the speaker are highly unlikely. Can you say "lint"?
Yeah, because there's absolutely no way lint can get into the holes of the speaker and microphone of the last five models of… OH WAIT…
???????
Originally Posted by tylerk36
But from the look at the picture we won't have the micro SD card. Maybe in the iPhone 5s.
I refuse to believe anyone is actually still holding on to this five year old fantasy. Give it a rest.
Originally Posted by Gyorgy Peto
1. HTC ONE X and SAMSUNG GALAXY SIII already blow the 4S out of the water.
lol, except no.
2. Apple needs to come up with something very spectacular to fend off Android supremecy
lol, except no.
3. I could not beleive that Ivy and his team would come up with a phone that looks this shit.
1. It's 'Ive'. As in "Sir Jonathan Ive".
2. This looks like the last two phones. Either you're a hypocrite or you hated those, too, in which case you wouldn't be saying anything at all in particular about THIS model, meaning you're a hypocrite.
4. ....this is an insult to any apple lover
That would be you, I think.
Originally Posted by Hellacool
Steve was never satisfied and that died with him.
{Intelligence needed.}
Originally Posted by bigpics
Yes and no....... ...the iP4 was "tick" and the 4s the "tock" on the 2 year contract cycle. At 1st glance - assuming it's remotely real - this "feels" more like "toooock" than a new tick.
I'm not sure that we can say this. Apple doesn't tick/tock with any of their other designs. The Intel analogy doesn't really fit, I think.
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
A conductive charging plate?
Oh, please no. I hope it's just LiquidMetal.
Originally Posted by Rokrad
I have a strong feeling that this iPhone will be named just "The new iPhone"
????
Originally Posted by cycomiko
Gotta say that I'm a fan of the one on the left. Hearkens back to the first iPhone, and with a silver back it's gorgeous.
Originally Posted by cycomiko
very few people are so shallow as to buy the iPhone for its external appearance.
"No. That's wrong. Everyone only buys the iPhone because of how it looks. The iPhone 4S wasn't even a new phone. It was the exact same phone as the year before. If Apple thinks they can sell the same phone for three years, they have another thing coming. Apple is doomed. It's the same phone. No, it's the same phone. Same…"
And that's the point where you whack the record player to get it to quit skipping.
See, I don' t want a new design for the sake of a new design — that's how the Android crowd and children make choices — I want the best possible design. If that means they keep the same basic design for several years then so be it, but radically changing everything every year doesn't do the consumer any favors and you end up with the problem Nokia faced with their radical designs that just threw everything at the way to see what stuck.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Nor do I. The current iPhone design is iconic, instantly recognizable.Why change more than is necessary to accommodate the larger display? As for the possibility of a two-toned back, I like it. myself.
I think it fits more with Apple's Mac designs as well:
I like the idea of a three phone line up. That is an iPhone Maxi, Midi and Mini. The Midi would amount to the current 4S class machines. This would cover just about every users and would more effectively take on or over for iPod slack.
That's what "alleged[ly]" means.
The Apple haters are already mounting to exclaim how Apple didn't invent this feature.
My problem with people wanting Inductive charging is that tend to express it as a replacement for a cabled connector whereas any reasonable inclusion would be in addition to the cable charging, just as we have wireless and wireless syncing as of iOS 5.
But why use LiquidMetal on the back at all? It's the odd ridges that make me think it's not your standard metal. Could an inductive plate transfer more power faster and with less heat or loss of energy if LM was between the two? I don't know; I'm just trying to understand how these very precise and finished looking components would still have these unusual elements to the back plate.
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Originally Posted by jason98
...Yes, you know I hate the Home button, wish it is gone for good, or at least got squeezed at the bottom...
I seriously doubt the round Home button with the square picture will change any time soon. It's one of the defining features of the iPhone. Besides it's very useful for quickly turning on the phone with a quick push and swipe with the thumb, which is better than some Droid units out there that only has a power button on top or off to the sides.
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Originally Posted by wizard69
I have a strong feeling that we will see parallel development of an iPhone this size and of the original sized models. The goal for Apple is to cover a wider array of user needs. The big model will be the LTE machine for a couple of years while the 4S class machine receives other improvements to keep it modern.
I like the idea of a three phone line up. That is an iPhone Maxi, Midi and Mini. The Midi would amount to the current 4S class machines. This would cover just about every users and would more effectively take on or over for iPod slack.
That's what I think would be a good path for them. Maybe 4 phones. The premier 4+ inch phone, the "classic" 3.5 inch iPhone, a "Mini" iPod phone, and an iPhone for the prepaid market (ie the 3GS). They could hit Android on every playing field easily.
Is that an iPhone in yer pocket ... or are you just glad to see me?
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
The Apple haters are already mounting to exclaim how Apple didn't invent this feature.
My problem with people wanting Inductive charging is that tend to express it as a replacement for a cabled connector whereas any reasonable inclusion would be in addition to the cable charging, just as we have wireless and wireless syncing as of iOS 5.
But why use LiquidMetal on the back at all? It's the odd ridges that make me think it's not your standard metal. Could an inductive plate transfer more power faster and with less heat or loss of energy if LM was between the two? I don't know; I'm just trying to understand how these very precise and finished looking components would still have these unusual elements to the back plate.
Apple does have patents for the feature though, so I'm assuming we'll see inductive charging debut on this iPhone.
You're right that people will exclaim Apple stole the feature, but the Palm that debuted the feature is long gone and the entire Palm empire is folded. I don't know of any current smartphones with the feature either.
Anyway I'm sure if Apple does introduce Inductive Charging they'll do something special with it, maybe with magnets or something to make you're entire phone into a big magsafe connected to a "Touchstone-like" brick. But we'll see.
I like it. I intend to replace my iPhone 4 with the new iPhone. Even though the 4S has been the best selling iPhone,
I imagine there are a whole bunch of people that skipped the 4S waiting on this new iPhone.
When combined with IOS6 i bet this new hardware will sell like hotcakes. Hold on to your apple stock.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
If Apple had only used, say, that iPhone 4 design for one year the same posters would just say that Apple changed it up so radically because it was a failure. IOW, Apple can't win with people, like DaHarder, because it's either proof that the previous version was a failure (despite Apple's market profits) or proof that Apple has gotten complacent. Now they'll argue that Steve Jobs would have never done this or that regardless of what Apple does. They claim now, after the fact, that Apple had all the answers under Jobs despite then claiming Apple was ready to fail at every turn under Jobs, but now that Jobs is gone you best buy from another company because there is no way Apple function as of October 5th, 2011.
I will never understand why so many people get hung up on how the phone looks. Really how many different ways can you make s smartphone look? The days of the Blackberry look are over almost all smartphones on some level are going to look like what Apple or Samsung put out. For me its the iOS improvements that I care about. Larger screen size with the same form factor I would welcome.
Other point I would raise with many saying this is fake. When the possible rumors of the New iPad came out I did not believe it was going to have a Retina display and LTE. Almost every rumor about the new iPad on this forum turned out to be true. The same with the latest Macbook Pro when it came to the Retina display. The conclusion that I have come to is now that Steve Jobs as passed the Apple product leaks have greatly increased. It appears at least to me as vast majority of the leaks turn out to be true.
I could be way off but that is how I see it. The only thing I believe SJ would flip his shit over is Siri. There are times I love Siri there are times I almost throw my phone out the car window.
The patent is for an inductive charging dock/station and not on the actual technology. There's plenty of inductive chargers on the market now.
Btw I for one like the design and will be getting my girl the new iPhone regardless of what it looks like.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
So this allegedly is coming from a Japanese iPhone repair facility based on leaked parts from China and people say this looks legit? How would an Japanese iPhone repair facility get their hands on leaked parts from China?
Submarines.
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Originally Posted by Hellacool
Right because the word sheep is known around the world as derogatory.
so it's meant to be a complement?
wow, what a rehash... Jobs must have been to sick to really help out at the end.
Originally Posted by agramonte
wow, what a rehash... Jobs must have been to sick to really help out at the end.
Is this where we say, "Not as sick as you'd have to be to say something like that?"