Hopefully Apple continues to work on making their maps look better. Apple's maps in the US are decent, but in my opinion Google's maps are far better (in terms of readability and information provided). However, I was in Japan, and Apple's maps in Japan need a LOT of work. I'm not sure how other regions fare (being a European company, Tom-Tom maps are probably pretty good for Europe).
So long as what they are replacing it with is something equal or better (probably better) then there should be nobody upset with this decision.
Although, I wonder for those people who don't want the change, if they can retain Google Maps as default. What would be great about that is Google can then step THEIR game up, and everyone else wins.
Why is it that on the Google Map, you can see a small island above the Lands End pin, but it's not displayed on the Apple map? And why is it that the small islands east of Point Lobos Avenue are simply displayed as a large triangle on the Apple maps?
Perhaps something still under development? Google has had time to refine their maps after all...
Though I will give you Street View. Apple has the technology for that so it could definitely be added later. Flyover has the potential to be more useful but having it available in so few cities at the moment significantly weakens its position.
Is there still a way to retain google maps as the default map app?
So long as what they are replacing it with is something equal or better (probably better) then there should be nobody upset with this decision.
Although, I wonder for those people who don't want the change, if they can retain Google Maps as default. What would be great about that is Google can then step THEIR game up, and everyone else wins.
Good for Apple. WTG
Unless Apple plans to dramatically change colors, make green text on green parks more readable, make details like small islands actually show up on the maps, add something equivalent to nationwide Street View, and enable walking directions within the next two months, then they are NOT replacing it with something better.
I pray that they do improve it before the final release or at least allow Google Maps as an alternative app.
Like, say Kindle App and iBooks for instance and countless other examples?
Oh, hang on, they don't.
Take your lie and shove it.
Does iBooks replace Kindle completely? I'm still a but unclear if Apple intends to reduce the customer's choice or simply add to it and make their own the default. If someone doesn't want Apple's solution and is prevented from retaining how things are now, I don't see how what the guy said is false.
Also, is it good policy to simply view which apps are most successful and drive them out of the app store with their own version of things? I wonder, if Google made a fart app that was the #1 sold app in the store, would Apple create one too?
I'm just happy to deprive Google of my location data on a daily basis.
You're singlehandedly undermining their entire business operation. You keep at it, because the day google starts logging "John B"'s location is the day they become a global monopoly super power
I'm not liking the sound of this. I really like Google maps. I'm too sure in detail what Apple's maps app will include but I feel as tho they won't have as many views and options as Google
It's a big deal in terms of iOS integration, but I think the moment that it's introduced, Google will simply have an app ready for the users. They probably already have one developed and just waiting for put it on the App store.
Not really a big moment, but I think as Apple's offerings improve over time.. Google's will become irrelevant. Of course, this means Google will really have to continue developing something substantial to entice mobile users to use its offerings. So in the end, I suppose that's good, but Apple won't simply hand Google its users like it did in the past.
Does iBooks replace Kindle completely? I'm still a but unclear if Apple intends to reduce the customer's choice or simply add to it and make their own the default. If someone doesn't want Apple's solution and is prevented from retaining how things are now, I don't see how what the guy said is false.
Also, is it good policy to simply view which apps are most successful and drive them out of the app store with their own version of things? I wonder, if Google made a fart app that was the #1 sold app in the store, would Apple create one too?
No but Google made alternatives to Twitter, Facebook, web browsers and anything else that gets in their way of total domination of how people access anything web based which may bypass them.
No street view and far less detailed maps make Apple's effort a massive downgrade. If google release a dedicated maps app, I can see it being the no.1 downloaded free app until the end of time. This is apple arrogance at it's very worst, degrading the user experience purely out of hatred for a competitor. Once word gets out just how bad Apple's maps are, it may also drive android sales even further ahead.
Apple maps are certainly better looking than Google's are and I'm sure it's a great product, but I really think Apple is headed for a fall here.
No streetview is a problem. A big problem. No Transit information is another.
Whether or not anyone here agrees, there are huge numbers of people that rely on streetview and they don't read the tech blogs. When this thing launches without street view, I think there will be a lot of complaints, a lot of articles written about it, and therefore a lot of bad publicity.
There is more Yahoo than Google in iOS 6. I will miss Google Street View though.
As much as they have the stupidest name on the planet (it's actually spelled "Yahoo!"), I kind of like the services they are offering.
I switched over one of my computers to Yahoo! for the default search engine and with the exception of the image search it's as good as or better than Google IMO. If they spruced it up a bit, offered some options on search like showing image sizes and more sorting options it would be a no brainer to switch away from Google forever, and for everything.
I understand losing walking directions and transit directions is a problem, probably because I use them myself, but I don't get the appeal of Street View. What am I missing here? What do people use it for?
No street view and far less detailed maps make Apple's effort a massive downgrade. If google release a dedicated maps app, I can see it being the no.1 downloaded free app until the end of time. This is apple arrogance at it's very worst, degrading the user experience purely out of hatred for a competitor. Once word gets out just how bad Apple's maps are, it may also drive android sales even further ahead.
I agree with you. I remember how Google Chrome was the #1 app for a while too, but this is even more extreme. I don't feel like Apple will let the old app stay on in the app store though... But there is a possibility (depending on how much control Apple has over actual map detail and how much control they give to Tom Tom and the like) that in iOS 7 Apple will improve map features and detail.
I understand losing walking directions and transit directions is a problem, probably because I use them myself, but I don't get the appeal of Street View. What am I missing here? What do people use it for?
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Hopefully Apple continues to work on making their maps look better. Apple's maps in the US are decent, but in my opinion Google's maps are far better (in terms of readability and information provided). However, I was in Japan, and Apple's maps in Japan need a LOT of work. I'm not sure how other regions fare (being a European company, Tom-Tom maps are probably pretty good for Europe).
So long as what they are replacing it with is something equal or better (probably better) then there should be nobody upset with this decision.
Although, I wonder for those people who don't want the change, if they can retain Google Maps as default. What would be great about that is Google can then step THEIR game up, and everyone else wins.
Good for Apple. WTG
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Originally Posted by macosxp
Why is it that on the Google Map, you can see a small island above the Lands End pin, but it's not displayed on the Apple map? And why is it that the small islands east of Point Lobos Avenue are simply displayed as a large triangle on the Apple maps?
Perhaps something still under development? Google has had time to refine their maps after all...
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Originally Posted by sleepy3
Seems to pretty clearly violate the app store rule about doing the same thing 1st party apps do.
Like, say Kindle App and iBooks for instance and countless other examples?
Oh, hang on, they don't.
Take your lie and shove it.
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Originally Posted by Solowalker
Though I will give you Street View. Apple has the technology for that so it could definitely be added later. Flyover has the potential to be more useful but having it available in so few cities at the moment significantly weakens its position.
Is there still a way to retain google maps as the default map app?
I'm just happy to deprive Google of my location data on a daily basis.
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Originally Posted by chronster
So long as what they are replacing it with is something equal or better (probably better) then there should be nobody upset with this decision.
Although, I wonder for those people who don't want the change, if they can retain Google Maps as default. What would be great about that is Google can then step THEIR game up, and everyone else wins.
Good for Apple. WTG
Unless Apple plans to dramatically change colors, make green text on green parks more readable, make details like small islands actually show up on the maps, add something equivalent to nationwide Street View, and enable walking directions within the next two months, then they are NOT replacing it with something better.
I pray that they do improve it before the final release or at least allow Google Maps as an alternative app.
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Originally Posted by hill60
Like, say Kindle App and iBooks for instance and countless other examples?
Oh, hang on, they don't.
Take your lie and shove it.
Does iBooks replace Kindle completely? I'm still a but unclear if Apple intends to reduce the customer's choice or simply add to it and make their own the default. If someone doesn't want Apple's solution and is prevented from retaining how things are now, I don't see how what the guy said is false.
Also, is it good policy to simply view which apps are most successful and drive them out of the app store with their own version of things? I wonder, if Google made a fart app that was the #1 sold app in the store, would Apple create one too?
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Originally Posted by John.B
I'm just happy to deprive Google of my location data on a daily basis.
You're singlehandedly undermining their entire business operation. You keep at it, because the day google starts logging "John B"'s location is the day they become a global monopoly super power
I'm not liking the sound of this. I really like Google maps. I'm too sure in detail what Apple's maps app will include but I feel as tho they won't have as many views and options as Google
Apple has the money, power, influence, size and talent to go their own way.
And they will, more and more, as much as possible. It's best to get comfy with that idea *now*.
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Originally Posted by chronster
Although, I wonder for those people who don't want the change, if they can retain Google Maps as default.
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Originally Posted by chronster
Is there still a way to retain google maps as the default map app?
I sincerely doubt it.
It's a big deal in terms of iOS integration, but I think the moment that it's introduced, Google will simply have an app ready for the users. They probably already have one developed and just waiting for put it on the App store.
Not really a big moment, but I think as Apple's offerings improve over time.. Google's will become irrelevant. Of course, this means Google will really have to continue developing something substantial to entice mobile users to use its offerings. So in the end, I suppose that's good, but Apple won't simply hand Google its users like it did in the past.
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Originally Posted by chronster
Does iBooks replace Kindle completely? I'm still a but unclear if Apple intends to reduce the customer's choice or simply add to it and make their own the default. If someone doesn't want Apple's solution and is prevented from retaining how things are now, I don't see how what the guy said is false.
Also, is it good policy to simply view which apps are most successful and drive them out of the app store with their own version of things? I wonder, if Google made a fart app that was the #1 sold app in the store, would Apple create one too?
No but Google made alternatives to Twitter, Facebook, web browsers and anything else that gets in their way of total domination of how people access anything web based which may bypass them.
Apple maps are certainly better looking than Google's are and I'm sure it's a great product, but I really think Apple is headed for a fall here.
No streetview is a problem. A big problem. No Transit information is another.
Whether or not anyone here agrees, there are huge numbers of people that rely on streetview and they don't read the tech blogs. When this thing launches without street view, I think there will be a lot of complaints, a lot of articles written about it, and therefore a lot of bad publicity.
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Originally Posted by dagamer34
There is more Yahoo than Google in iOS 6. I will miss Google Street View though.
As much as they have the stupidest name on the planet (it's actually spelled "Yahoo!"), I kind of like the services they are offering.
I switched over one of my computers to Yahoo! for the default search engine and with the exception of the image search it's as good as or better than Google IMO. If they spruced it up a bit, offered some options on search like showing image sizes and more sorting options it would be a no brainer to switch away from Google forever, and for everything.
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Originally Posted by mrr
Google Street View !
I understand losing walking directions and transit directions is a problem, probably because I use them myself, but I don't get the appeal of Street View. What am I missing here? What do people use it for?
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Originally Posted by kotatsu
No street view and far less detailed maps make Apple's effort a massive downgrade. If google release a dedicated maps app, I can see it being the no.1 downloaded free app until the end of time. This is apple arrogance at it's very worst, degrading the user experience purely out of hatred for a competitor. Once word gets out just how bad Apple's maps are, it may also drive android sales even further ahead.
I agree with you. I remember how Google Chrome was the #1 app for a while too, but this is even more extreme. I don't feel like Apple will let the old app stay on in the app store though... But there is a possibility (depending on how much control Apple has over actual map detail and how much control they give to Tom Tom and the like) that in iOS 7 Apple will improve map features and detail.
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Originally Posted by TheSwordBearer
I understand losing walking directions and transit directions is a problem, probably because I use them myself, but I don't get the appeal of Street View. What am I missing here? What do people use it for?
To see what places look like...