I hope all Samsung hardware and software is banned from the marketplace and that they are forced to create something new and unique for both. Stealing all of Apple's work then repackaging it and selling it on cheap phones is wrong.
I can't see Apple being happy with all these internal design process details, private discussion with SJ, emails, behind the scenes stuff, etc all being publicized. I've gained more insight into Apple's internals these past couple days than I have in years of following them as a company. It just seems so.... odd, for all this stuff to be coming out from these execs from such a secretive company. I can just feel SJ rolling in his grave.
I can't see Apple being happy with all these internal design process details, private discussion with SJ, emails, behind the scenes stuff, etc all being publicized. I've gained more insight into Apple's internals these past couple days than I have in years of following them as a company. It just seems so.... odd, for all this stuff to be coming out from these execs from such a secretive company. I can just feel SJ rolling in his grave.
Why would they give a shit? Apple isn't secretive because they are a bunch of paranoid control freaks, they are secretive to protect forthcoming products - this stuff is all in the past.
Why would they give a shit? Apple isn't secretive because they are a bunch of paranoid control freaks, they are secretive to protect forthcoming products - this stuff is all in the past.
Samsung are so fucked.
Uh, no. They're secretive about the past, present, and future, always have been- especially their product development process and methodology. You think they're cool with all the 'Steve Jobs thought a 7" iPad was a great idea', anecdotes?
<vc><strong>Following Apple's marketing chief Phil Schiller, iOS head Scott Forstall to the stand to testify in the Samsung patent infringement trial.</strong>
Asked if he was confidence his team would succeed, Forstall answered, "not at all."
meh. that's about as far i could get in the article before my head exploded as a result of the non-stop parade of grammar and syntax errors.
or as appleinsider would put it: "that i could get Exploders, errors.".
the comment has since been deleted.
is appleinsider now censoring its critics, mild and true as they might be? it has a lot of work to do then, because i'm not the only one pointing out the numerous syntax and grammar errors in this, uh, thing.
can anyone hazard a guess as to why my comment was summarily deleted?
He’s (Forstall is) asked if he told anyone at Apple to copy from Samsung’s designs.
“I never directed anyone to go and copy something from Samsung. We wanted to build something great…There was no reason to look at anything they had done.”
He reports to the company's chief executive Tim Cook as serves as a member of the Executive Team, with 1,000 people directly reporting to him.
And this (aside from the grammar), I don't believe Forstall has 1000 direct reports. A thousand people working under him I can believe but they aren't all direct reports.
I can't see Apple being happy with all these internal design process details, private discussion with SJ, emails, behind the scenes stuff, etc all being publicized. I've gained more insight into Apple's internals these past couple days than I have in years of following them as a company. It just seems so.... odd, for all this stuff to be coming out from these execs from such a secretive company. I can just feel SJ rolling in his grave.
Nonsense. Don't you think Steve knew they would need to backup their claim on infringement when this war went to court? edit: EricTheHalfBee sums it up way better here
<vc><strong>Following Apple's marketing chief Phil Schiller, iOS head Scott Forstall to the stand to testify in the Samsung patent infringement trial.</strong>
Asked if he was confidence his team would succeed, Forstall answered, "not at all."
meh. that's about as far i could get in the article before my head exploded as a result of the non-stop parade of grammar and syntax errors.
or as appleinsider would put it: "that i could get Exploders, errors.".
the comment has since been deleted.
is appleinsider now censoring its critics, mild and true as they might be? it has a lot of work to do then, because i'm not the only one pointing out the numerous syntax and grammar errors in this, uh, thing.
can anyone hazard a guess as to why my comment was summarily deleted?
Deleted? Wow. Glad to be able to read it now. Still, wow AI. If someone posts a comment you'd think that person is the owner of those words, but AI thinks it was given to them when clicking on the summit button? Strikes me as 'odd'.
He reports to the company's chief executive Tim Cook as serves as a member of the Executive Team, with 1,000 people directly reporting to him.
And this (aside from the grammar), I don't believe Forstall has 1000 direct reports. A thousand people working under him I can believe but they aren't all direct reports.
Who writes this stuff?
The size of his team I absolutely believe. He's got the Siri team, which is the largest team within Apple. And of course he's got managers between him and these 1,000 people otherwise he'd do nothing but granting sick leave and all that crap management stuff.
If Jobs ever had said there might be something worth copying, IF, and they didn't actual copy anything, why ask? I think Samsung is trying to confuse the jury. What was Samnsung doing before than iPhone and iOS that was even worth stealing?
Deleted? Wow. Glad to be able to read it now. Still, wow AI. If someone posts a comment you'd think that person is the owner of those words, but AI thinks it was given to them when clicking on the summit button? Strikes me as 'odd'.
<vc><strong>Following Apple's marketing chief Phil Schiller, iOS head Scott Forstall to the stand to testify in the Samsung patent infringement trial.</strong>
Asked if he was confidence his team would succeed, Forstall answered, "not at all."
meh. that's about as far i could get in the article before my head exploded as a result of the non-stop parade of grammar and syntax errors.
or as appleinsider would put it: "that i could get Exploders, errors.".
it was deleted. so i posted it again. that comment has since been deleted.
is appleinsider now censoring its critics, mild and true as they might be? it has a lot of work to do then, because i'm not the only one pointing out the numerous syntax and grammar errors in this, uh, thing.
can anyone hazard a guess as to why my comments were summarily deleted?
The most interesting part of this trial is hearing Apple's process for designing something. The amount of time and effort they put into things and the attention to detail. And the fact they were thinking of these things years before the iPhone first came out.
And this (aside from the grammar), I don't believe Forstall has 1000 direct reports. A thousand people working under him I can believe but they aren't all direct reports.
Who writes this stuff?
Yeah I wondered about this too as it was reported elsewhere like this. I'm sure there are some VP's or middle managers who report directly to him who these 1'000 or so people report up through.
Nonsense. Don't you think Steve knew they would need to backup their claim on infringement when this war went to court? edit: EricTheHalfBee sums it up way better here
Deleted? Wow. Glad to be able to read it now. Still, wow AI. If someone posts a comment you'd think that person is the owner of those words, but AI thinks it was given to them when clicking on the summit button? Strikes me as 'odd'.
The size of his team I absolutely believe. He's got the Siri team, which is the largest team within Apple. And of course he's got managers between him and these 1,000 people otherwise he'd do nothing but granting sick leave and all that crap management stuff.
If he has 1,000 people working on Siri why is it still beta and why does it still suck?
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Not just grammar but a coherent arrangement of events (without repletion might be nice.)
I suggest chronological order would be a logical goal for starters.
I hope all Samsung hardware and software is banned from the marketplace and that they are forced to create something new and unique for both. Stealing all of Apple's work then repackaging it and selling it on cheap phones is wrong.
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Originally Posted by Marvin
Good answers from Forstall, I wonder what the email from Jobs said.
"This may become a talking point used by a Samsung lawyer in a future trial, so I'm setting this up as a blind alley. Be cagey."
Cheers
I can't see Apple being happy with all these internal design process details, private discussion with SJ, emails, behind the scenes stuff, etc all being publicized. I've gained more insight into Apple's internals these past couple days than I have in years of following them as a company. It just seems so.... odd, for all this stuff to be coming out from these execs from such a secretive company. I can just feel SJ rolling in his grave.
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Originally Posted by Slurpy
I can't see Apple being happy with all these internal design process details, private discussion with SJ, emails, behind the scenes stuff, etc all being publicized. I've gained more insight into Apple's internals these past couple days than I have in years of following them as a company. It just seems so.... odd, for all this stuff to be coming out from these execs from such a secretive company. I can just feel SJ rolling in his grave.
Why would they give a shit? Apple isn't secretive because they are a bunch of paranoid control freaks, they are secretive to protect forthcoming products - this stuff is all in the past.
Samsung are so fucked.
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Originally Posted by vinney57
Why would they give a shit? Apple isn't secretive because they are a bunch of paranoid control freaks, they are secretive to protect forthcoming products - this stuff is all in the past.
Samsung are so fucked.
Uh, no. They're secretive about the past, present, and future, always have been- especially their product development process and methodology. You think they're cool with all the 'Steve Jobs thought a 7" iPad was a great idea', anecdotes?
the comment has since been deleted.
is appleinsider now censoring its critics, mild and true as they might be? it has a lot of work to do then, because i'm not the only one pointing out the numerous syntax and grammar errors in this, uh, thing.
can anyone hazard a guess as to why my comment was summarily deleted?
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Originally Posted by amoradala
From Forbes.
He’s (Forstall is) asked if he told anyone at Apple to copy from Samsung’s designs.
“I never directed anyone to go and copy something from Samsung. We wanted to build something great…There was no reason to look at anything they had done.”
Nice one Scott!
Best. Qoute. Ever. I love Scott Forstall!
And this (aside from the grammar), I don't believe Forstall has 1000 direct reports. A thousand people working under him I can believe but they aren't all direct reports.
Who writes this stuff?
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Originally Posted by Marvin
Good answers from Forstall, I wonder what the email from Jobs said.
Stay hungry. Stay foolish.
Nonsense. Don't you think Steve knew they would need to backup their claim on infringement when this war went to court? edit: EricTheHalfBee sums it up way better here
Deleted? Wow. Glad to be able to read it now. Still, wow AI. If someone posts a comment you'd think that person is the owner of those words, but AI thinks it was given to them when clicking on the summit button? Strikes me as 'odd'.
The size of his team I absolutely believe. He's got the Siri team, which is the largest team within Apple. And of course he's got managers between him and these 1,000 people otherwise he'd do nothing but granting sick leave and all that crap management stuff.
If Jobs ever had said there might be something worth copying, IF, and they didn't actual copy anything, why ask? I think Samsung is trying to confuse the jury. What was Samnsung doing before than iPhone and iOS that was even worth stealing?
deleted. twice now.
it was deleted. so i posted it again. that comment has since been deleted.
is appleinsider now censoring its critics, mild and true as they might be? it has a lot of work to do then, because i'm not the only one pointing out the numerous syntax and grammar errors in this, uh, thing.
can anyone hazard a guess as to why my comments were summarily deleted?
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Originally Posted by gumashow
Yeah, the grammar [mistakes in the AI articles are] a joke.
Agreed! Rumor site or not, it's inexcusable and unprofessional. PROOFREAD! Being first to publish isn't always the point. Get it right!
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Originally Posted by hittrj01
Best. Qoute. Ever. I love Scott Forstall!
That was a great slam on Samsung!
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Originally Posted by EricTheHalfBee
The most interesting part of this trial is hearing Apple's process for designing something. The amount of time and effort they put into things and the attention to detail. And the fact they were thinking of these things years before the iPhone first came out.
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I agree! I really want to hear what Samsung's process is.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
If he has 1,000 people working on Siri why is it still beta and why does it still suck?
Sarcasm, right?