Sadly Apple tends to hork things up sometimes. For example, there's NO WAY to enable auto-login on a WEP/WPA protected Wifi network. This means every time I get to work I have to open stupid Safari and sign in.
I have I lot of protected wifi nets I use and none make me log in again. Your sitch could be due to how the net was set up, not your phone
AT&T will need to bump up bandwidth at their free wifi connections in order to get iPhones to stay connected now. Most AT&T wifi is only 500Kb or up to 1.5 DSL in their AT&T stores. 3G on an iPhone 4 runs solid at 3Mb. I'd hate to see an AT&T locked LTE iPhone that refuses AT&T's wifi network.
I have I lot of protected wifi nets I use and none make me log in again. Your sitch could be due to how the net was set up, not your phone
I can vouch for a similar problem due to the setup of a network. Not password but EULA in my case. Sitting in the maternity ward of a hospital here in Cape Cod waiting for our latest grandchild, I am seeing my iPad thrown off the network every hour or less and it requires re accepting the terms and conditions to get back in. The pain is Safari gets confused and I have to quit and wait a few minutes and then try to access a web site to get the redirect to the license page. This during the olympics is a real pain!
I hope this helps all apps on the phone work more smoothly as there is transition between WiFi and Cellular.
I use TuneIn Radio a lot, and typically start listening in the house as I'm getting ready to walk the dog. I pick the local NPR station, and it plays me their standard, "this audio stream is brought to you courtesy of xyz", then starts playing the radio station. Then, as I walk away from the house, the phone will suddenly switch over to Cellular for the data as the WiFi connection is lost, and the playback stops and plays the, "this audio stream is brought to you courtesy of xyz", message again. The thing is, there is obviously enough data buffered to cope with the degrading WiFi signal, as I never get a loss of audio as I walk away, it just suddenly switches to cellular and reacts as if I've started a new connection entirely.
The strange thing is, on the way back, so when I get back in range of my WiFi network, it doesn't happen again.
Not sure if this is something changes to the OS could help, or if it's an inherent weakness of the otherwise excellent TuneIn Radio, but I'd love it if it stopped happening!
This isn't going to help that.
Internet radio uses a TCP connection, and this connection will break if your IP address changes. Since your IP address changes when you go from cellular to Wi-Fi, or vice versa, TuneIn has to start the stream again.
This is why I turn off WIfi if I'm going to be using TuneIn near the edge of a Wifi network. It's not worth the pain in the ass.
This article is about iPhones. Are you talking about your iPhone? If so, you're confusing me, cause once I log on to a WPA network I'm not asked again to provide name & pw. It just silently connects.
Here on campus, you connect to the WPA network. Then you have to open a browser and it gives you a login page. You have to accept the terms and conditions, and you're online.
Before it used to be an unencrypted network. The phone would pop up the login and accept conditions page, I would do so, and it would dismiss automatically. When the network went WPA, it stopped doing that automatically. I have to go to Safari, try to load a page, then do the login and accept.
The fundamental problem is that the iPhone won't allow you to turn on the auto-login feature (which is what pops up that page automatically) if the network uses WPA/WEP. There isn't even a toggle for it in the settings for that network.
Here on campus, you connect to the WPA network. Then you have to open a browser and it gives you a login page. You have to accept the terms and conditions, and you're online.
Before it used to be an unencrypted network. The phone would pop up the login and accept conditions page, I would do so, and it would dismiss automatically. When the network went WPA, it stopped doing that automatically. I have to go to Safari, try to load a page, then do the login and accept.
The fundamental problem is that the iPhone won't allow you to turn on the auto-login feature (which is what pops up that page automatically) if the network uses WPA/WEP. There isn't even a toggle for it in the settings for that network.
It's stupid.
Again this appears to be something based on the university's setup. Many of us have our home networks protected by WEP or WPA and don't have this issue.
Sadly Apple tends to hork things up sometimes. For example, there's NO WAY to enable auto-login on a WEP/WPA protected Wifi network. This means every time I get to work I have to open stupid Safari and sign in.
If they implement this feature well, I'd be able to still get iMessages and such at work when I don't log in.
I'm confused. I assume you are talking about using your iPhone. Connecting to the network is done through the Settings app (Settings-->Wi-Fi), not Safari. My home network is protected and connection is automatic after the first time. Perhaps your issue is with a password protected firewall where you work?
Here on campus, you connect to the WPA network. Then you have to open a browser and it gives you a login page. You have to accept the terms and conditions, and you're online.
Before it used to be an unencrypted network. The phone would pop up the login and accept conditions page, I would do so, and it would dismiss automatically. When the network went WPA, it stopped doing that automatically. I have to go to Safari, try to load a page, then do the login and accept.
The fundamental problem is that the iPhone won't allow you to turn on the auto-login feature (which is what pops up that page automatically) if the network uses WPA/WEP. There isn't even a toggle for it in the settings for that network.
It's stupid.
the school set up a proxy server to host the legal agreement. it has nothing to do with the iphone not being able to do something
huh, what is this wifi you speak of, my 1200 baud modem works just fine on my Mac SE30, well its a bit slow, but I have plenty of time. all this new new nonsence just makes me sick. I got a letter from my ISP the other day telling me they won't be supporting dial up - any recommendations
I don't think people are seeing the other side to this. If its disabled that means people with limited data plans stops your devices from using cellular data and running up their usage unintentionally. If you remember when the iPad 3 was released people with 2GB plans were running through their plans and they were on wifi when it happened. With it disabled this wont happen now.
Internet radio uses a TCP connection, and this connection will break if your IP address changes. Since your IP address changes when you go from cellular to Wi-Fi, or vice versa, TuneIn has to start the stream again.
This is why I turn off WIfi if I'm going to be using TuneIn near the edge of a Wifi network. It's not worth the pain in the ass.
Apple could circumvent this by using a VPN that maintains ip over two paths.
If the carriers try to charge people for FT3G people are gong to lose their shit. Skype, ooVoo, and others work just fine over 3G and the carriers don't charge for those.
Thank god. Now I don't have to worry about AT&T WiFi hotspots hijacking my connection. You can't remove them from your iPhone so you have to manually turn off WiFi.
Thank god. Now I don't have to worry about AT&T WiFi hotspots hijacking my connection. You can't remove them from your iPhone so you have to manually turn off WiFi.
My concern is how will this work. I imagine there will be a lot of retooling the service after it goes live. I see it as one of those things that need a lot of data to sort out all the oddities in WiFi networks and their internet connections that prevent data from being transmitted efficiently.
Personally, after I found out that most iOS apps send their data unencrypted I've just been using cellular and my home WiFi whenever possible.
Here on campus, you connect to the WPA network. Then you have to open a browser and it gives you a login page. You have to accept the terms and conditions, and you're online.
Before it used to be an unencrypted network. The phone would pop up the login and accept conditions page, I would do so, and it would dismiss automatically. When the network went WPA, it stopped doing that automatically. I have to go to Safari, try to load a page, then do the login and accept.
The fundamental problem is that the iPhone won't allow you to turn on the auto-login feature (which is what pops up that page automatically) if the network uses WPA/WEP. There isn't even a toggle for it in the settings for that network.
It's stupid.
That's the way the people set up their network, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the device you use to access it.
huh, what is this wifi you speak of, my 1200 baud modem works just fine on my Mac SE30, well its a bit slow, but I have plenty of time. all this new new nonsence just makes me sick. I got a letter from my ISP the other day telling me they won't be supporting dial up - any recommendations
The Smithsonian accepts donations of obsolete tech.
Wait, they charge me for the data and then charge me extra!
Tethering is one thing (which I'll go along with), but this seems really absurd.
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Did you post to the right thread?
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Originally Posted by Rabbit_Coach
Haven't seen a thread for that post recently in this forum.
Maybe he jumped to the wrong forum??
Think this may be what he was referring to. He just failed to realize that they were only talking about charging for FaceTime over cellular (reading his post again it is possible he did realize it and that is what he was upset about).
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider
It's not yet clear, however, how individual carriers will handle cellular data use for FaceTime, as an earlier finding from within the iOS 6 betas indicated that AT&T may charge for the capability, which is currently limited to WiFi in iOS 5.
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I have I lot of protected wifi nets I use and none make me log in again. Your sitch could be due to how the net was set up, not your phone
AT&T will need to bump up bandwidth at their free wifi connections in order to get iPhones to stay connected now. Most AT&T wifi is only 500Kb or up to 1.5 DSL in their AT&T stores. 3G on an iPhone 4 runs solid at 3Mb. I'd hate to see an AT&T locked LTE iPhone that refuses AT&T's wifi network.
I can vouch for a similar problem due to the setup of a network. Not password but EULA in my case. Sitting in the maternity ward of a hospital here in Cape Cod waiting for our latest grandchild, I am seeing my iPad thrown off the network every hour or less and it requires re accepting the terms and conditions to get back in. The pain is Safari gets confused and I have to quit and wait a few minutes and then try to access a web site to get the redirect to the license page. This during the olympics is a real pain!
Simply brilliant. I have also wanted this forever. Now Samsung's "research" team has something new to copy.
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Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson
I hope this helps all apps on the phone work more smoothly as there is transition between WiFi and Cellular.
I use TuneIn Radio a lot, and typically start listening in the house as I'm getting ready to walk the dog. I pick the local NPR station, and it plays me their standard, "this audio stream is brought to you courtesy of xyz", then starts playing the radio station. Then, as I walk away from the house, the phone will suddenly switch over to Cellular for the data as the WiFi connection is lost, and the playback stops and plays the, "this audio stream is brought to you courtesy of xyz", message again. The thing is, there is obviously enough data buffered to cope with the degrading WiFi signal, as I never get a loss of audio as I walk away, it just suddenly switches to cellular and reacts as if I've started a new connection entirely.
The strange thing is, on the way back, so when I get back in range of my WiFi network, it doesn't happen again.
Not sure if this is something changes to the OS could help, or if it's an inherent weakness of the otherwise excellent TuneIn Radio, but I'd love it if it stopped happening!
This isn't going to help that.
Internet radio uses a TCP connection, and this connection will break if your IP address changes. Since your IP address changes when you go from cellular to Wi-Fi, or vice versa, TuneIn has to start the stream again.
This is why I turn off WIfi if I'm going to be using TuneIn near the edge of a Wifi network. It's not worth the pain in the ass.
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Originally Posted by Wings
This article is about iPhones. Are you talking about your iPhone? If so, you're confusing me, cause once I log on to a WPA network I'm not asked again to provide name & pw. It just silently connects.
Here on campus, you connect to the WPA network. Then you have to open a browser and it gives you a login page. You have to accept the terms and conditions, and you're online.
Before it used to be an unencrypted network. The phone would pop up the login and accept conditions page, I would do so, and it would dismiss automatically. When the network went WPA, it stopped doing that automatically. I have to go to Safari, try to load a page, then do the login and accept.
The fundamental problem is that the iPhone won't allow you to turn on the auto-login feature (which is what pops up that page automatically) if the network uses WPA/WEP. There isn't even a toggle for it in the settings for that network.
It's stupid.
If it helps tio get you off of a Wi-fi network that you're walking by or leaving that would be great!
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Originally Posted by zorinlynx
Here on campus, you connect to the WPA network. Then you have to open a browser and it gives you a login page. You have to accept the terms and conditions, and you're online.
Before it used to be an unencrypted network. The phone would pop up the login and accept conditions page, I would do so, and it would dismiss automatically. When the network went WPA, it stopped doing that automatically. I have to go to Safari, try to load a page, then do the login and accept.
The fundamental problem is that the iPhone won't allow you to turn on the auto-login feature (which is what pops up that page automatically) if the network uses WPA/WEP. There isn't even a toggle for it in the settings for that network.
It's stupid.
Again this appears to be something based on the university's setup. Many of us have our home networks protected by WEP or WPA and don't have this issue.
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Originally Posted by zorinlynx
This could be very awesome IF IMPLEMENTED WELL.
Sadly Apple tends to hork things up sometimes. For example, there's NO WAY to enable auto-login on a WEP/WPA protected Wifi network. This means every time I get to work I have to open stupid Safari and sign in.
If they implement this feature well, I'd be able to still get iMessages and such at work when I don't log in.
I'm confused. I assume you are talking about using your iPhone. Connecting to the network is done through the Settings app (Settings-->Wi-Fi), not Safari. My home network is protected and connection is automatic after the first time. Perhaps your issue is with a password protected firewall where you work?
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Originally Posted by zorinlynx
Here on campus, you connect to the WPA network. Then you have to open a browser and it gives you a login page. You have to accept the terms and conditions, and you're online.
Before it used to be an unencrypted network. The phone would pop up the login and accept conditions page, I would do so, and it would dismiss automatically. When the network went WPA, it stopped doing that automatically. I have to go to Safari, try to load a page, then do the login and accept.
The fundamental problem is that the iPhone won't allow you to turn on the auto-login feature (which is what pops up that page automatically) if the network uses WPA/WEP. There isn't even a toggle for it in the settings for that network.
It's stupid.
the school set up a proxy server to host the legal agreement. it has nothing to do with the iphone not being able to do something
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Originally Posted by nagromme
I’ve wanted this forever!
Sometimes in a coffee shop or public WiFi, the Internet will just ....
I never use public Internet unless it is WPA password enabled.
huh, what is this wifi you speak of, my 1200 baud modem works just fine on my Mac SE30, well its a bit slow, but I have plenty of time. all this new new nonsence just makes me sick. I got a letter from my ISP the other day telling me they won't be supporting dial up - any recommendations
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Originally Posted by zorinlynx
This isn't going to help that.
Internet radio uses a TCP connection, and this connection will break if your IP address changes. Since your IP address changes when you go from cellular to Wi-Fi, or vice versa, TuneIn has to start the stream again.
This is why I turn off WIfi if I'm going to be using TuneIn near the edge of a Wifi network. It's not worth the pain in the ass.
Apple could circumvent this by using a VPN that maintains ip over two paths.
If the carriers try to charge people for FT3G people are gong to lose their shit. Skype, ooVoo, and others work just fine over 3G and the carriers don't charge for those.
Thank god. Now I don't have to worry about AT&T WiFi hotspots hijacking my connection. You can't remove them from your iPhone so you have to manually turn off WiFi.
My concern is how will this work. I imagine there will be a lot of retooling the service after it goes live. I see it as one of those things that need a lot of data to sort out all the oddities in WiFi networks and their internet connections that prevent data from being transmitted efficiently.
Personally, after I found out that most iOS apps send their data unencrypted I've just been using cellular and my home WiFi whenever possible.
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Originally Posted by zorinlynx
Here on campus, you connect to the WPA network. Then you have to open a browser and it gives you a login page. You have to accept the terms and conditions, and you're online.
Before it used to be an unencrypted network. The phone would pop up the login and accept conditions page, I would do so, and it would dismiss automatically. When the network went WPA, it stopped doing that automatically. I have to go to Safari, try to load a page, then do the login and accept.
The fundamental problem is that the iPhone won't allow you to turn on the auto-login feature (which is what pops up that page automatically) if the network uses WPA/WEP. There isn't even a toggle for it in the settings for that network.
It's stupid.
That's the way the people set up their network, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the device you use to access it.
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Originally Posted by Paul94544
huh, what is this wifi you speak of, my 1200 baud modem works just fine on my Mac SE30, well its a bit slow, but I have plenty of time. all this new new nonsence just makes me sick. I got a letter from my ISP the other day telling me they won't be supporting dial up - any recommendations
The Smithsonian accepts donations of obsolete tech.
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Originally Posted by rhyde
Wait, they charge me for the data and then charge me extra!
Tethering is one thing (which I'll go along with), but this seems really absurd.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Did you post to the right thread?
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Originally Posted by Rabbit_Coach
Haven't seen a thread for that post recently in this forum.
Maybe he jumped to the wrong forum??
Think this may be what he was referring to. He just failed to realize that they were only talking about charging for FaceTime over cellular (reading his post again it is possible he did realize it and that is what he was upset about).
Quote:
Originally Posted by AppleInsider
It's not yet clear, however, how individual carriers will handle cellular data use for FaceTime, as an earlier finding from within the iOS 6 betas indicated that AT&T may charge for the capability, which is currently limited to WiFi in iOS 5.