I was under the impression that the patent office does not research whether the item being patented is unique, only whether it can be patented under the patent rules. It is up to the applicant to research whether the thing being patented is truly a unique invention and then if there is a dispute, it is handled in the courts. If the patent office took responsibility for the validity of a patented item being a unique invention, then these trials would not be needed.
Then note that the comment sounds retarded. But don't refer to the poster as retarded. I think you could even call a username as being stupid but to alter it's spelling in a deragoaty way is an attack on the poster and not the post. Now go grind his irrational comments to dust.
I see them as the same. Two points are pulled together or apart to make something larger or smaller. The application may be different, but the gesture is the same. It think Apple has lost on that one. The jury is out on rubber-banding... for me, anyway.
This is their best effort at providing 'evidence' of prior art? Very weak. LaunchTile is painful to even watch. Maybe Samsung should be ordered to use this interface as a punishment.
I can't believe you linked to a site that requires Flash. Those are getting hard to find these days.
Unfortunately Comedy Central-based stuff is like that. I think clips, not full episodes, from The Daily Show and Colbert Report are not playable on iDevices. In my defense I did link to an additional video on YouTube.
This is their best effort at providing 'evidence' of prior art? Very weak. LaunchTile is painful to even watch. Maybe Samsung should be ordered to use this interface as a punishment.
Quite good first post. I'm actually here for the humor, so thanks.
"AppleShare"? I guess we can assume you are over 40?
2:36 shows one-handed pinch to zoom out, a few seconds later it's a two-handed pull to zoom in.
[sarcasm]Oh, but apple did it on a phone, that's true innovation.[/sarcasm]
Let me get this straight. Apple's efforts are invalidated in your mind because the year before Apple releases a full fledged product they spent many years developing and have patents on multitouch capacitance gestures are null and void because they didn't demo an unfinished concept that wasn't part of an actual product first? Makes perfect sense¡
This is their best effort at providing 'evidence' of prior art? Very weak. LaunchTile is painful to even watch. Maybe Samsung should be ordered to use this interface as a punishment.
But in this case, what does your well-known quote say about a corporation that tries to steal but gets caught and doesn't get away with it? I suppose Samsung is something less than a good artist and much less than a great artist!
2:36 shows one-handed pinch to zoom out, a few seconds later it's a two-handed pull to zoom in.
[sarcasm]Oh, but apple did it on a phone, that's true innovation.[/sarcasm]
Ok THAT example is potentially relevant (depending on whether it was truly "prior") but not those lame examples in the main story that Samsung introduced.
This reminds me of another SJ quote: real artists ship. Give Apple credit for doing something like this and turning it into a real product and getting it into the hands of millions of people.
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T. S. Eliot actually, regarding poets.
Feel free to provide evidence of where this misquote was actually used by Picasso.
I was under the impression that the patent office does not research whether the item being patented is unique, only whether it can be patented under the patent rules. It is up to the applicant to research whether the thing being patented is truly a unique invention and then if there is a dispute, it is handled in the courts. If the patent office took responsibility for the validity of a patented item being a unique invention, then these trials would not be needed.
Then note that the comment sounds retarded. But don't refer to the poster as retarded. I think you could even call a username as being stupid but to alter it's spelling in a deragoaty way is an attack on the poster and not the post. Now go grind his irrational comments to dust.
Talk about a red herring. I guess hip boots were handed out to the jurors for all the Bullshit.
I see them as the same. Two points are pulled together or apart to make something larger or smaller. The application may be different, but the gesture is the same. It think Apple has lost on that one. The jury is out on rubber-banding... for me, anyway.
This is their best effort at providing 'evidence' of prior art? Very weak. LaunchTile is painful to even watch. Maybe Samsung should be ordered to use this interface as a punishment.
Unfortunately Comedy Central-based stuff is like that. I think clips, not full episodes, from The Daily Show and Colbert Report are not playable on iDevices. In my defense I did link to an additional video on YouTube.
"AppleShare"? I guess we can assume you are over 40?
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Originally Posted by diplication
Actually...not really.
Actually, I'm quite interested in hearing this.
So, really!
If you can't see pinch to zoom in that video, try this one from february 2006:
http://www.ted.com/talks/jeff_han_demos_his_breakthrough_touchscreen.html
2:36 shows one-handed pinch to zoom out, a few seconds later it's a two-handed pull to zoom in.
[sarcasm]Oh, but apple did it on a phone, that's true innovation.[/sarcasm]
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Originally Posted by jsebrech
If you can't see pinch to zoom in that video, try this one from february 2006:
http://www.ted.com/talks/jeff_han_demos_his_breakthrough_touchscreen.html
2:36 shows one-handed pinch to zoom out, a few seconds later it's a two-handed pull to zoom in.
[sarcasm]Oh, but apple did it on a phone, that's true innovation.[/sarcasm]
If you think that the iPhone revolutionized the mobile phone industry on this then you're a bigger fool than your memory makes you out to to be.
Show us some evidence that the iPhone revolutionized the mobile phone industry based on 'pinch-to-zoom' alone.
Let me get this straight. Apple's efforts are invalidated in your mind because the year before Apple releases a full fledged product they spent many years developing and have patents on multitouch capacitance gestures are null and void because they didn't demo an unfinished concept that wasn't part of an actual product first? Makes perfect sense¡
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Originally Posted by AppleShare
This is their best effort at providing 'evidence' of prior art? Very weak. LaunchTile is painful to even watch. Maybe Samsung should be ordered to use this interface as a punishment.
LOL! I agree! Sheesh!
Apple's '915 Apple's '915 "pinch-to-zoom"
Filed Date: 2007.1.7
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7,844,915.PN.&OS=PN/7,844,915&RS=PN/7,844,915
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"pinch-to-zoom" video from Diamond Table
(time : 1:27 ~ 1:40)
Video upload date : 2006.4.8
Video record date : 2004. 5
: It looks like a "Game Over" to "pinch-to-zoom" patent
On those witnesses and those so called technology known as diamond touch and launchtile....
"LSHMSFOAIDMT
Laughing so hard my sombrero falls off and I drop my taco."
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Originally Posted by 845032
"Good artists copy great artists steal" -- SJ
But in this case, what does your well-known quote say about a corporation that tries to steal but gets caught and doesn't get away with it? I suppose Samsung is something less than a good artist and much less than a great artist!
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Originally Posted by jsebrech
If you can't see pinch to zoom in that video, try this one from february 2006:
http://www.ted.com/talks/jeff_han_demos_his_breakthrough_touchscreen.html
2:36 shows one-handed pinch to zoom out, a few seconds later it's a two-handed pull to zoom in.
[sarcasm]Oh, but apple did it on a phone, that's true innovation.[/sarcasm]
Ok THAT example is potentially relevant (depending on whether it was truly "prior") but not those lame examples in the main story that Samsung introduced.
This reminds me of another SJ quote: real artists ship. Give Apple credit for doing something like this and turning it into a real product and getting it into the hands of millions of people.