Lightning connector viewed as long-term investment, may not be replaced for 10 years

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
Apple's new Lightning connector, introduced alongside the iPhone 5 last week, is thought to be a key long-term investment for the company, and will possibly have a lifetime of ten years.

Lightning Plug
Source: Apple


In a research note shared with AppleInsider, well-connected KGI analyst Ming-Chi Kuo broke down the cost of components used in the iPhone 5, and found the Lightning's ASP (average sales price) to have risen the most compared to parts in the iPhone 4S.

Kuo notes the new Lightning connector's cost of $3.50 represents a huge 775 percent rise in ASP compared to the legacy 30-pin dock connector's last price of $0.40. Concurrently, the Lightning cable's $6.00 ASP is a 233 percent jump from the previous standard's $1.80 model.

The spike is to be expected as Lightning is a new technology, replacing the nearly decade old 30-pin dock connector first introduced with the third-generation iPod.

While Apple's new plug is similar in size to the Micro USB standard, Kuo believes the Lightning's specs are higher, making the connector more difficult to manufacture. Included in the new high-tech part is a unique design which the analyst says is likely to feature a pin-out with four contacts dedicated to data, two for accessories, one for power and a ground. Two of the data transmission pins may be reserved for future input/output technology like USB 3.0 or perhaps even Thunderbolt, though this is merely speculation.

Lightning


As for Lightning's expected lifespan, the format is estimated to be in use for the next five to ten years, almost identical to the now-defunct 30-pin standard.

While ASP may be high in the first one to two years following deployment, the cost is acceptable as Apple will likely make back its investment in royalties from accessory sales. Apple is thought to be using a Texas Instruments chip for accessory authorization, making it difficult for third party manufacturers to build and sell Lightning-compatible products without paying royalties.

Looking at other critical parts in the iPhone 5, Kuo notes Apple's quest to make high-quality products has boosted the ASP of other components as well, including the sapphire camera lens cover, upgraded baseband system, the A6 processor and the 4-inch in-cell touch panel. The second-highest ASP rise comes from the iPhone 5's all-aluminum back casing's $17 price which represents a 240 percent increase from the $5 "metal band" design seen in the iPhone 4 and 4S.
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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 53
    Nonsense, the move to the new connector was clearly a cash grab. Apple is greedy. They just want you to buy adapters from them.

    The new connector doesn't offer any advantage over the old connector.

    /s
  • Reply 2 of 53
    iqatedoiqatedo Posts: 1,823member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pendergast View Post



    Nonsense, the move to the new connector was clearly a cash grab. Apple is greedy. They just want you to buy adapters from them.

    The new connector doesn't offer any advantage over the old connector.

    /s


    Nearly didn't notice your little /s there - what a relief!


     


    I agree that the connector is potentially a long term investment.  I have now tried it for myself and I like it, it has a positive action and is surprisingly secure for such a small connector.  I haven't looked into this but believe that the pins are software reconfigurable.  If so, plenty of room for future developments.

  • Reply 3 of 53
    mauszmausz Posts: 243member


    I would go as far as to say that within 10 years we will not be using physical connectors anymore for these mobile devices, so another new physicial connector is not to be expected indeed.


     


    Any data connection (also audio/video) will be wireless (BT, WiDi, WiFi etc.) and by then Apple will probably have jumped on wireless charging as well as this offers nice design opportunities.

  • Reply 4 of 53
    It looks like a win-win for AAPL; more versatile, reversible, compact, proprietary chip to prevent cheap Asian junk.
  • Reply 5 of 53
    I'm hoping for a lightning to thunderbolt connector. I don't have any devices that use Thunderbolt yet, and syncing my iPhone with Thunderbolt would be awesome.
  • Reply 6 of 53
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    I'm hoping for a lightning to thunderbolt connector. I don't have any devices that use Thunderbolt yet, and syncing my iPhone with Thunderbolt would be awesome.

    Why? The sync time is not likely to be limited by the cable, anyway.
  • Reply 7 of 53


    Side note on the connector:  


     


    An order that I placed on 17-Sep (originally not scheduled to arrive until October 10th) just shipped, estimated delivery 27-Sep ... Apple must have done something.

  • Reply 8 of 53
    Clearly it was necessary to change the adapter to continue the march of thinness. I have no quarrel with their rationale there. That said, if the analyst's cost estimates are correct, we are talking 5 bucks for the cable. How much could the chip needed to translate between the new and old adapter output cost. Don't see any justification for the exorbitant premium Apple gets at $29 a pop. Give long term buyers who have collected several add ons a break here.
  • Reply 9 of 53
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member


    Or perhaps there will be no next connector? Perhaps by then we may see wireless charing + syncing going mainstream? With third party devices in the future that connect to iPhones and iPads being held to said devices with a magnet connector, not too unlike a MagSafe, but designed more for convenience of pairing and keeping together devices like doctor's utilities and the host device, e.g. an iPhone.

  • Reply 10 of 53
    pendergast wrote: »
    Nonsense, the move to the new connector was clearly a cash grab. Apple is greedy. They just want you to buy adapters from them.
    The new connector doesn't offer any advantage over the old connector.
    /s

    Can you please enlighten us with your expert opinion of the data transfer field based on your personal experience of course, why the new connector doesn't offer any advantage over t a the old one.
    Your help would be highly appreciated.
    In case you remain silent we will know you are stuffing your face with humble pie to mask your embarrassment.
    Sure, Apple needs all the revenue they can gain with selling adapters...
    Get a life before it is too late!????
  • Reply 11 of 53


    /s = SARCASM tag


     


    That was meant as a reply to the post above.

  • Reply 12 of 53
    cameronjcameronj Posts: 2,357member
    Well duh
  • Reply 13 of 53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lazol View Post





    Can you please enlighten us with your expert opinion of the data transfer field based on your personal experience of course, why the new connector doesn't offer any advantage over t a the old one.

    Your help would be highly appreciated.

    In case you remain silent we will know you are stuffing your face with humble pie to mask your embarrassment.

    Sure, Apple needs all the revenue they can gain with selling adapters...

    Get a life before it is too late!????


    *snicker*


    Humble Pie indeed, sir...  Humble pie indeed.


    *snicker*

  • Reply 14 of 53
    [SIZE=24px]/s = SARCASM tag[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=11px]That was meant as a reply to the post above.[/SIZE]

    Was it?
    Sorry, too realistic troll posting...
    Then I am having the h. pie....
    ????
  • Reply 15 of 53
    lazol wrote: »
    Can you please enlighten us with your expert opinion of the data transfer field based on your personal experience of course, why the new connector doesn't offer any advantage over t a the old one.
    Your help would be highly appreciated.
    In case you remain silent we will know you are stuffing your face with humble pie to mask your embarrassment.
    Sure, Apple needs all the revenue they can gain with selling adapters...
    Get a life before it is too late!????

    Sigh.
  • Reply 16 of 53
    I understand the 'march to thinness' but I won't be getting an iP5 and one of the reasons will be the new connector. I have 3 speaker/payback units (1 clock radio
  • Reply 17 of 53
    lazol wrote: »
    Was it?
    Sorry, too realistic troll posting...
    Then I am having the h. pie....
    ????

    It's all good.

    It was realistic because I was basically quoting what several people have actually posted... Some people.
  • Reply 18 of 53
    I understand the 'march to thinness' but I won't be getting an iP5 and one of the reasons will be the new connector. I have 3 speaker/payback units (1 clock radio
  • Reply 19 of 53
    I understand the 'march to thinness' but I won't be getting an iP5 and one of the reasons will be the new connector. I have 3 speaker/payback units (1 clock radio

    I understand the sentiment, but you're now on the wrong end of progress. You'll have to make the jump eventually.
  • Reply 20 of 53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DethByUngaBunga View Post


    Side note on the connector:  


     


    An order that I placed on 17-Sep (originally not scheduled to arrive until October 10th) just shipped, estimated delivery 27-Sep ... Apple must have done something.





    Yeah I placed my order on the 12th and it was supposed to ship next week and arrive the 5th but shipped today too

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