Give it whatever name you darn please (frankly, I take the broader definition), but troll posts and troll accounts might go away without notice. If you want to disagree, fine, but intentionally incendiary comments, particularly against Apple fans, and those that make them repeatedly, don't belong here.
This isn't a place for Samsung or Android fans to tell us were all dumb for choosing an Apple product. There are other places on the web for that. I don't go to android sites to tell them they're stupid, I wish others would return the favor.
A company or boss can fire you, a school can expel you, parents can ground you, a website can ban you. But none of them can actually prohibit or suppress free speech, ban a book, etc. except within the confines of their small sphere of influence.
Correct.
Which is why your statement
Censorship is when government prohibits or suppresses speech, the press, expression, etc.
is correct but is not complete. Censorship does not apply only to government.
In particular instance, freedom of the press assumes ownership the press. The person complaining about being censored may or may not be able to post about a topic on AI,
Because AI is practicing censorship (within the confines of their small sphere of influence).
Censorship is when a company, person, organization, government prohibits or suppresses speech, the press, expression, etc.
Do you realize that if you have the technical background to arrive at paranoid conclusions about cookie monsters you also have the background needed to use cookie blockers?
Apparently you don't.
Of course I do. That's not the frigging point, and you know it.
This address could've been chosen specifically because it does NOT point to anyone's home or business.
Making it irrelevant to everyone.
They could have done the address for Motorola or Google's building in NYC.
Except I'm sure that iOS maps knows where those are, so the example would have failed. I did wonder about the same question when the ad appeared, and I'm guessing that they spent some time looking for useable real addresses that did not have privacy issues. That they used a non-existent address in the end made me think that they couldn't find any suitable real ones, which, in itself, would suggest that the iOS map database is pretty good right out of the gate.
Apple just sold over 5 million iPhone 5 s in the past week and a half so this crap by Moto is mute IMHO. And Apple did it with their own hardware and software.
You sure Apple did it with their own hardware?? Last time I checked Apple don't make any hardwares.
Apple advertise as if they make their hardware or they invented their hardware; ie. "Apple's New Retina Display", when they use LG's and Samsung's display.
You sure Apple did it with their own hardware?? Last time I checked Apple don't make any hardwares.
Apple advertise as if they make their hardware or they invented their hardware; ie. "Apple's New Retina Display", when they use LG's and Samsung's display.
Apple are such liars. They put their names on products when it's Foxconn that actually makes them. Such assholes¡
Why are people still trying to defend this debacle? Apple simply made a change to eliminate a competitor from its system relying on customer loyalty to prop it up while it tried to fix things on the fly with updates. This goes against the whole concept apple has attacked MS for, putting out broken software and using updates to patch things. Complaints about wrong address entered into a system?
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315 E 15th Street is not an actual address in Manhattan.
Well guess what that happens all the time! The program is just more accurate with google. it "guesstimates" the missed addresses better
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But if you're searching for an phony address that doesn't actually exist, you're already lost. You can't blame Apple, and neither should Google.
Glad I have never had someone give me the wrong address for a place or i have never entered the wrong number for an address,... oh wait....
Comparing Google earth with Apple maps is comparing apples and well oranges. Google is not suggesting google earth is a navigation program while apple maps is offering its program and images as one. so yes people can be critical of apples use of flawed maps in a program thats supposed to be a navigation tool.
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"8th & Folsom" and iOS 5 Maps correctly found it via Google's maps servers, just like the new version of Maps powered by Apple's servers. Which is exactly what users in New York would do when searching for an incorrect, ambiguous street address that returned something other than the expected result.
Interesting quirk in the search engine using the word "and" assumes Fulsom is the city while the "&" assumes its an intersection.
The point is that apple eliminated an effective product while apple CEO
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Cook sent out an apology letter, in which he said Maps failed to live up to the standard Apple has for its products.
Its just simple apple prides itself on the almost religious mantra of being simple and effective but it failed. People need to stop defending the application and admit it was huge step backwards. Apple will fix it I am sure but its not something that will occur over night or even in a few years.
(PS I always have admired Apple (my first comp was an Apple IIe) for its innovation and products but stop making excuses! This was an epic failure.
With two posts. And you joined last week. Uh, yeah, not buying it.
Yes because it obviously is impossible to like or own apple products without being a member of some random forum for fanbois. Besides 99% of people just lurk. I visit Slashdot about 2-3 times a day for the last 15 years but have not posted nor got an account for what is my favourite website.
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This isn't a place for Samsung or Android fans to tell us were all dumb for choosing an Apple product. There are other places on the web for that. I don't go to android sites to tell them they're stupid, I wish others would return the favor.
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Originally Posted by John.B
A company or boss can fire you, a school can expel you, parents can ground you, a website can ban you. But none of them can actually prohibit or suppress free speech, ban a book, etc. except within the confines of their small sphere of influence.
Correct.
Which is why your statement
Censorship is when government prohibits or suppresses speech, the press, expression, etc.
is correct but is not complete. Censorship does not apply only to government.
In particular instance, freedom of the press assumes ownership the press. The person complaining about being censored may or may not be able to post about a topic on AI,
Because AI is practicing censorship (within the confines of their small sphere of influence).
Censorship is when a company, person, organization, government prohibits or suppresses speech, the press, expression, etc.
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Yes except that AI and the others aren't as intertwined in our daily lives as google is.
Originally Posted by MacRulez
Do you realize that's also true with AppleInsider, and any other ad-based business?
Do you realize that I can avoid all digital contact with AppleInsider by not ever having an account here?
Do you realize that this is impossible with Google?
Of course you don't.
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Originally Posted by MacRulez
Do you realize that if you have the technical background to arrive at paranoid conclusions about cookie monsters you also have the background needed to use cookie blockers?
Apparently you don't.
Of course I do. That's not the frigging point, and you know it.
Many people have pointed out that there are plenty of other examples that could've been used.
As someone who's had to come up with data for public consumption, but still steer clear of privacy issues, my first thought was that:
This address could've been chosen specifically because it does NOT point to anyone's home or business.
Originally Posted by KDarling
This address could've been chosen specifically because it does NOT point to anyone's home or business.
Making it irrelevant to everyone.
They could have done the address for Motorola or Google's building in NYC.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Originally Posted by KDarling
This address could've been chosen specifically because it does NOT point to anyone's home or business.
Making it irrelevant to everyone.
They could have done the address for Motorola or Google's building in NYC.
Except I'm sure that iOS maps knows where those are, so the example would have failed. I did wonder about the same question when the ad appeared, and I'm guessing that they spent some time looking for useable real addresses that did not have privacy issues. That they used a non-existent address in the end made me think that they couldn't find any suitable real ones, which, in itself, would suggest that the iOS map database is pretty good right out of the gate.
Originally Posted by muppetry
Except I'm sure that iOS maps knows where those are, so the example would have failed.
WHAT'S THAT?! Funny how that works, then, eh?
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Originally Posted by KDarling
Many people have pointed out that there are plenty of other examples that could've been used.
As someone who's had to come up with data for public consumption, but still steer clear of privacy issues, my first thought was that:
This address could've been chosen specifically because it does NOT point to anyone's home or business.
What better way to "steer clear of privacy issues" than to use a non-address, right?
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Originally Posted by maccherry
Lol!
Apple just sold over 5 million iPhone 5 s in the past week and a half so this crap by Moto is mute IMHO. And Apple did it with their own hardware and software.
You sure Apple did it with their own hardware?? Last time I checked Apple don't make any hardwares.
Apple advertise as if they make their hardware or they invented their hardware; ie. "Apple's New Retina Display", when they use LG's and Samsung's display.
Apple are such liars. They put their names on products when it's Foxconn that actually makes them. Such assholes¡
Why are people still trying to defend this debacle? Apple simply made a change to eliminate a competitor from its system relying on customer loyalty to prop it up while it tried to fix things on the fly with updates. This goes against the whole concept apple has attacked MS for, putting out broken software and using updates to patch things. Complaints about wrong address entered into a system?
Quote:
315 E 15th Street is not an actual address in Manhattan.
Well guess what that happens all the time! The program is just more accurate with google. it "guesstimates" the missed addresses better
Quote:
But if you're searching for an phony address that doesn't actually exist, you're already lost. You can't blame Apple, and neither should Google.
Glad I have never had someone give me the wrong address for a place or i have never entered the wrong number for an address,... oh wait....
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just as Apple's Flyover is superior to Google Earth and Apple's directions are in some cases legal and safe while Google's are not.
Comparing Google earth with Apple maps is comparing apples and well oranges. Google is not suggesting google earth is a navigation program while apple maps is offering its program and images as one. so yes people can be critical of apples use of flawed maps in a program thats supposed to be a navigation tool.
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"8th & Folsom" and iOS 5 Maps correctly found it via Google's maps servers, just like the new version of Maps powered by Apple's servers. Which is exactly what users in New York would do when searching for an incorrect, ambiguous street address that returned something other than the expected result.
Interesting quirk in the search engine using the word "and" assumes Fulsom is the city while the "&" assumes its an intersection.
The point is that apple eliminated an effective product while apple CEO
Quote:
Cook sent out an apology letter, in which he said Maps failed to live up to the standard Apple has for its products.
Its just simple apple prides itself on the almost religious mantra of being simple and effective but it failed. People need to stop defending the application and admit it was huge step backwards. Apple will fix it I am sure but its not something that will occur over night or even in a few years.
(PS I always have admired Apple (my first comp was an Apple IIe) for its innovation and products but stop making excuses! This was an epic failure.
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Originally Posted by John.B
With two posts. And you joined last week. Uh, yeah, not buying it.
Yes because it obviously is impossible to like or own apple products without being a member of some random forum for fanbois. Besides 99% of people just lurk. I visit Slashdot about 2-3 times a day for the last 15 years but have not posted nor got an account for what is my favourite website.