If it made any kind of sense to even wear one of these "watch" things anymore, this is the one I'd get.
Sadly, watches are about as relevant as moustache wax and spats at this point.
I imagine they'll be around for a long time yet...I don't have to charge mine every day like my phone, and I don't need to take it out of my pocket and stare at it and then put it back if I want to know the time, which might be considered rude dependant on your company etc. A watch is so much more subtle and stylish than a hunk of electronic gadgetry, no matter how cool the gadgetry is. No-one will be using an iPhone 5 in 5 years time, much less the nearly 70 years that this design has been around. Some things genuinely are timeless (excuse the pun), phone design is not (perhaps not yet).
Spit up into the air while you are lying down flat on the floor. Where does that spit end up? In your face.
This is what Apple is doing.
They sue Samsung for "slavishly copying" their patent or trademark, yet THEY (Apple) themselves are doing the very thing.
Therefore, this raises HUGE credibility issues for Apple not to mention whether their TRUE intent in pursuing with the lawsuit was mearly to "protect IP", instead of killing competition.
You can find them on Amazon too, but most reviews are disappointed that it's a Chinese made watch with German movement, using a Swiss-designed face. A reasonably priced and attractive watch, but its movement is "tick-tick-tick" instead of the sweeping second hand that pauses at the 12 position.
Spit up into the air while you are lying down flat on the floor. Where does that spit end up? In your face.
This is what Apple is doing.
They sue Samsung for "slavishly copying" their patent or trademark, yet THEY (Apple) themselves are doing the very thing.
Therefore, this raises HUGE credibility issues for Apple not to mention whether their TRUE intent in pursuing with the lawsuit was mearly to "protect IP", instead of killing competition.
I'd have to say the latter.
Try this:
Count the days, the lawsuits, the counter lawsuits, the products and the fighting and the failure to reach an agreement despite being clearly wrong.
Then note that this has been settled in something like 3 weeks, no lawsuits, no countersuing, just a straight hands up and paid agreement. Done, dusted.
Nah, that's more what the apple FANBOYS are doing. The ones who (even now) scream that black is white, up is down and these two designs are completely different and oh yeah SBB sucks!
The apple FANS, on the other hand, took one look at this and said, "yeah, Apple shouldn't have done this and they make this right." And Apple did. A little bit of a bad behavior for the original person who swiped the design, but the people higher up did the right thing.
Spit up into the air while you are lying down flat on the floor. Where does that spit end up? In your face.
This is what Apple is doing.
They sue Samsung for "slavishly copying" their patent or trademark, yet THEY (Apple) themselves are doing the very thing.
Therefore, this raises HUGE credibility issues for Apple not to mention whether their TRUE intent in pursuing with the lawsuit was mearly to "protect IP", instead of killing competition.
I'd have to say the latter.
What are you talking about? If Apple was a clock manufacturer, and went to court claiming the design was not a copy, but was inspired by the weather, or some such... and there were lots of side by side design comparisons found in Jony Ive's desk with meeting minutes describing discussion of the Swiss Rail Clock... you might have a point. I think you are HUGELY out to lunch, here.
I imagine they'll be around for a long time yet...I don't have to charge mine every day like my phone, and I don't need to take it out of my pocket and stare at it and then put it back if I want to know the time, which might be considered rude dependant on your company etc. A watch is so much more subtle and stylish than a hunk of electronic gadgetry, no matter how cool the gadgetry is. No-one will be using an iPhone 5 in 5 years time, much less the nearly 70 years that this design has been around. Some things genuinely are timeless (excuse the pun), phone design is not (perhaps not yet).
This is basically a really subjective argument but personally, I disagree. I don't think you have any objective support for your statement that a watch is more subtle or stylish or that the design is timeless or irreplaceable or any of those things.
I work around a lot of young people and if there is an old analogue clock on the wall they will look at it, but increasingly, many don't know how to tell time on those things anymore anyway and prefer digital. If you ask kids what time it is and they are sitting in front of a computer they will look at the computer for the time, if they have a cell, they will usually pull that out. Some still have watches, but it's not like in the 60's where every single person had a wristwatch anymore at all.
They are increasingly, just fashion statements. Most twenty-something kids with a watch are young guys with the giant fake Rolex-y looking thing and it's more to do with rap music than it is to do with telling the time.
This is basically a really subjective argument but personally, I disagree. I don't think you have any objective support for your statement that a watch is more subtle or stylish or that the design is timeless or irreplaceable or any of those things.
I work around a lot of young people and if there is an old analogue clock on the wall they will look at it, but increasingly, many don't know how to tell time on those things anymore anyway and prefer digital. If you ask kids what time it is and they are sitting in front of a computer they will look at the computer for the time, if they have a cell, they will usually pull that out. Some still have watches, but it's not like in the 60's where every single person had a wristwatch anymore at all.
They are increasingly, just fashion statements. Most twenty-something kids with a watch are young guys with the giant fake Rolex-y looking thing and it's more to do with rap music than it is to do with telling the time.
I haven't worn one for at least 15 years. I have a few and love watches, specially the mechanical auto wind ones, but they are antiques to me. If I don't have a cell phone of some kind, or a computer near by, or the radio on, or television, I probably don't need to know what time it is.
Looks a lot like the American railroad watch my dad has. Its a Buliva with this cool tuning fork based movement, except the second hand doesn't have the ball on the end.
I bet it was less about money and more about having Apple acknowledge their original design. I am glad it was settled amicably.
This is basically a really subjective argument but personally, I disagree. I don't think you have any objective support for your statement that a watch is more subtle or stylish or that the design is timeless or irreplaceable or any of those things.
I work around a lot of young people and if there is an old analogue clock on the wall they will look at it, but increasingly, many don't know how to tell time on those things anymore anyway and prefer digital. If you ask kids what time it is and they are sitting in front of a computer they will look at the computer for the time, if they have a cell, they will usually pull that out. Some still have watches, but it's not like in the 60's where every single person had a wristwatch anymore at all.
They are increasingly, just fashion statements. Most twenty-something kids with a watch are young guys with the giant fake Rolex-y looking thing and it's more to do with rap music than it is to do with telling the time.
Funny you bring this up. I brought the kids to visit my parents and my mother bought the boys these really cool snoopy analogue watches precisely because she was worried that they might growing up without being able to instinctively read an analogue clock.
<div class="quote-container"> <span>Quote:</span> <div class="quote-block"> Originally Posted by <strong>Galbi</strong> <a href="/t/153330/apple-reaches-license-agreement-for-swiss-rail-clock-design/40#post_2210163"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" /></a><br /> <br /> <p> Try this:</p> <p> </p> <p> Spit up into the air while you are lying down flat on the floor. Where does that spit end up? In your face.</p> <p> </p> <p> This is what Apple is doing.</p> <p> </p> <p> They sue Samsung for "slavishly copying" their patent or trademark, yet THEY (Apple) themselves are doing the very thing.</p> <p> </p> <p> Therefore, this raises HUGE credibility issues for Apple not to mention whether their TRUE intent in pursuing with the lawsuit was mearly to "protect IP", instead of killing competition.<br /> </p> <p> I'd have to say the latter.</p> </div></div><p> What are you talking about? If Apple was a clock manufacturer, and went to court claiming the design was not a copy, but was inspired by the weather, or some such... and there were lots of side by side design comparisons found in Jony Ive's desk with meeting minutes describing discussion of the Swiss Rail Clock... you might have a point. I think you are HUGELY out to lunch, here.</p>
Apple stole another design and got caught. Is this the first time? I bet you there is a certain Cydia developer that would agree that the answer to that question is a resounding 'No'! Apple copied his app AND his logo.
Or how about let's get the emails and minutes of meetings where Apple decided to "slavishly" copy Google's patent-pending notification center? Or how about GMails "Priority" inbox aka Apple's "VIP" inbox in iOS6? Apple steals, but it is okay. If others do it, they are vilified.
The point that was made is valid, and like most Apple apologists, you defend the company for doing things that you spite other companies for. Apple stole a design "purposely“, as they have done in the past, and tried to get away with it. They got caught. They have admitted so by being forced to pay money's for licensing. Not sure how anyone could argue this any other way?
This is basically a really subjective argument but personally, I disagree. I don't think you have any objective support for your statement that a watch is more subtle or stylish or that the design is timeless or irreplaceable or any of those things.
I work around a lot of young people and if there is an old analogue clock on the wall they will look at it, but increasingly, many don't know how to tell time on those things anymore anyway and prefer digital. If you ask kids what time it is and they are sitting in front of a computer they will look at the computer for the time, if they have a cell, they will usually pull that out. Some still have watches, but it's not like in the 60's where every single person had a wristwatch anymore at all.
They are increasingly, just fashion statements. Most twenty-something kids with a watch are young guys with the giant fake Rolex-y looking thing and it's more to do with rap music than it is to do with telling the time.
Subjective, yes, but I also think that a design that is being copied almost identically 70 years after it was first used, is proof enough that some things do stand the test of time.
Also, and I'm not trying to be argumentative here, if you come across someone who *cannot* read an analogue clock, then I say that is because they are dumb, or there has been a serious failing in their education. I don't have a sundial, but I know how to read one. I don't have a fountain pen, but I know how to use one. Just because it is old, or is more commonly used with modern versions/replacements, doesn't mean we should be ignorant of what has gone before.
Apple stole another design and got caught. Is this the first time? I bet you there is a certain Cydia developer that would agree that the answer to that question is a resounding 'No'! Apple copied his app AND his logo.
Or how about let's get the emails and minutes of meetings where Apple decided to "slavishly" copy Google's patent-pending notification center? Or how about GMails "Priority" inbox aka Apple's "VIP" inbox in iOS6? Apple steals, but it is okay. If others do it, they are vilified.
The point that was made is valid, and like most Apple apologists, you defend the company for doing things that you spite other companies for. Apple stole a design "purposely“, as they have done in the past, and tried to get away with it. They got caught. They have admitted so by being forced to pay money's for licensing. Not sure how anyone could argue this any other way?
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
These do look really cool.
If it made any kind of sense to even wear one of these "watch" things anymore, this is the one I'd get.
Sadly, watches are about as relevant as moustache wax and spats at this point.
I imagine they'll be around for a long time yet...I don't have to charge mine every day like my phone, and I don't need to take it out of my pocket and stare at it and then put it back if I want to know the time, which might be considered rude dependant on your company etc. A watch is so much more subtle and stylish than a hunk of electronic gadgetry, no matter how cool the gadgetry is. No-one will be using an iPhone 5 in 5 years time, much less the nearly 70 years that this design has been around. Some things genuinely are timeless (excuse the pun), phone design is not (perhaps not yet).
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Originally Posted by haar
ba-dum-bah!!... and a dead clock is right twice a day...
Which is a better record than some of our more infamous trolls here .... yes DaHarder, I'm looking at you ....
Try this:
Spit up into the air while you are lying down flat on the floor. Where does that spit end up? In your face.
This is what Apple is doing.
They sue Samsung for "slavishly copying" their patent or trademark, yet THEY (Apple) themselves are doing the very thing.
Therefore, this raises HUGE credibility issues for Apple not to mention whether their TRUE intent in pursuing with the lawsuit was mearly to "protect IP", instead of killing competition.
I'd have to say the latter.
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Originally Posted by Red Oak
I love that watch... Anybody have a link to buy?
You can find them on Amazon too, but most reviews are disappointed that it's a Chinese made watch with German movement, using a Swiss-designed face. A reasonably priced and attractive watch, but its movement is "tick-tick-tick" instead of the sweeping second hand that pauses at the 12 position.
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Originally Posted by icoco3
Was I supposed to laugh??
Not unless you have a sense of humour.
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Originally Posted by Galbi
Try this:
Spit up into the air while you are lying down flat on the floor. Where does that spit end up? In your face.
This is what Apple is doing.
They sue Samsung for "slavishly copying" their patent or trademark, yet THEY (Apple) themselves are doing the very thing.
Therefore, this raises HUGE credibility issues for Apple not to mention whether their TRUE intent in pursuing with the lawsuit was mearly to "protect IP", instead of killing competition.
I'd have to say the latter.
Try this:
Count the days, the lawsuits, the counter lawsuits, the products and the fighting and the failure to reach an agreement despite being clearly wrong.
Then note that this has been settled in something like 3 weeks, no lawsuits, no countersuing, just a straight hands up and paid agreement. Done, dusted.
Comparable?
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Originally Posted by jd_in_sb
I don't see that design in the ios 6 clock app.l
I know, it's only on the iPad version of iOS.
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Originally Posted by Galbi
This is what Apple is doing.
Nah, that's more what the apple FANBOYS are doing. The ones who (even now) scream that black is white, up is down and these two designs are completely different and oh yeah SBB sucks!
The apple FANS, on the other hand, took one look at this and said, "yeah, Apple shouldn't have done this and they make this right." And Apple did. A little bit of a bad behavior for the original person who swiped the design, but the people higher up did the right thing.
And not a second too soon!
Apple got this CLOCK hands down!
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Originally Posted by Galbi
Try this:
Spit up into the air while you are lying down flat on the floor. Where does that spit end up? In your face.
This is what Apple is doing.
They sue Samsung for "slavishly copying" their patent or trademark, yet THEY (Apple) themselves are doing the very thing.
Therefore, this raises HUGE credibility issues for Apple not to mention whether their TRUE intent in pursuing with the lawsuit was mearly to "protect IP", instead of killing competition.
I'd have to say the latter.
What are you talking about? If Apple was a clock manufacturer, and went to court claiming the design was not a copy, but was inspired by the weather, or some such... and there were lots of side by side design comparisons found in Jony Ive's desk with meeting minutes describing discussion of the Swiss Rail Clock... you might have a point. I think you are HUGELY out to lunch, here.
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Originally Posted by ChristophB
And not a second too soon!
I'd say you are too late.
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Originally Posted by stuffe
I imagine they'll be around for a long time yet...I don't have to charge mine every day like my phone, and I don't need to take it out of my pocket and stare at it and then put it back if I want to know the time, which might be considered rude dependant on your company etc. A watch is so much more subtle and stylish than a hunk of electronic gadgetry, no matter how cool the gadgetry is. No-one will be using an iPhone 5 in 5 years time, much less the nearly 70 years that this design has been around. Some things genuinely are timeless (excuse the pun), phone design is not (perhaps not yet).
This is basically a really subjective argument but personally, I disagree. I don't think you have any objective support for your statement that a watch is more subtle or stylish or that the design is timeless or irreplaceable or any of those things.
I work around a lot of young people and if there is an old analogue clock on the wall they will look at it, but increasingly, many don't know how to tell time on those things anymore anyway and prefer digital. If you ask kids what time it is and they are sitting in front of a computer they will look at the computer for the time, if they have a cell, they will usually pull that out. Some still have watches, but it's not like in the 60's where every single person had a wristwatch anymore at all.
They are increasingly, just fashion statements. Most twenty-something kids with a watch are young guys with the giant fake Rolex-y looking thing and it's more to do with rap music than it is to do with telling the time.
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
This is basically a really subjective argument but personally, I disagree. I don't think you have any objective support for your statement that a watch is more subtle or stylish or that the design is timeless or irreplaceable or any of those things.
I work around a lot of young people and if there is an old analogue clock on the wall they will look at it, but increasingly, many don't know how to tell time on those things anymore anyway and prefer digital. If you ask kids what time it is and they are sitting in front of a computer they will look at the computer for the time, if they have a cell, they will usually pull that out. Some still have watches, but it's not like in the 60's where every single person had a wristwatch anymore at all.
They are increasingly, just fashion statements. Most twenty-something kids with a watch are young guys with the giant fake Rolex-y looking thing and it's more to do with rap music than it is to do with telling the time.
I haven't worn one for at least 15 years. I have a few and love watches, specially the mechanical auto wind ones, but they are antiques to me. If I don't have a cell phone of some kind, or a computer near by, or the radio on, or television, I probably don't need to know what time it is.
Looks a lot like the American railroad watch my dad has. Its a Buliva with this cool tuning fork based movement, except the second hand doesn't have the ball on the end.
I bet it was less about money and more about having Apple acknowledge their original design. I am glad it was settled amicably.
Funny you bring this up. I brought the kids to visit my parents and my mother bought the boys these really cool snoopy analogue watches precisely because she was worried that they might growing up without being able to instinctively read an analogue clock.
Time to wind up this thread.
Apple stole another design and got caught. Is this the first time? I bet you there is a certain Cydia developer that would agree that the answer to that question is a resounding 'No'! Apple copied his app AND his logo.
Or how about let's get the emails and minutes of meetings where Apple decided to "slavishly" copy Google's patent-pending notification center? Or how about GMails "Priority" inbox aka Apple's "VIP" inbox in iOS6? Apple steals, but it is okay. If others do it, they are vilified.
The point that was made is valid, and like most Apple apologists, you defend the company for doing things that you spite other companies for. Apple stole a design "purposely“, as they have done in the past, and tried to get away with it. They got caught. They have admitted so by being forced to pay money's for licensing. Not sure how anyone could argue this any other way?
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
This is basically a really subjective argument but personally, I disagree. I don't think you have any objective support for your statement that a watch is more subtle or stylish or that the design is timeless or irreplaceable or any of those things.
I work around a lot of young people and if there is an old analogue clock on the wall they will look at it, but increasingly, many don't know how to tell time on those things anymore anyway and prefer digital. If you ask kids what time it is and they are sitting in front of a computer they will look at the computer for the time, if they have a cell, they will usually pull that out. Some still have watches, but it's not like in the 60's where every single person had a wristwatch anymore at all.
They are increasingly, just fashion statements. Most twenty-something kids with a watch are young guys with the giant fake Rolex-y looking thing and it's more to do with rap music than it is to do with telling the time.
Subjective, yes, but I also think that a design that is being copied almost identically 70 years after it was first used, is proof enough that some things do stand the test of time.
Also, and I'm not trying to be argumentative here, if you come across someone who *cannot* read an analogue clock, then I say that is because they are dumb, or there has been a serious failing in their education. I don't have a sundial, but I know how to read one. I don't have a fountain pen, but I know how to use one. Just because it is old, or is more commonly used with modern versions/replacements, doesn't mean we should be ignorant of what has gone before.
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Originally Posted by xuselppa
Apple stole another design and got caught. Is this the first time? I bet you there is a certain Cydia developer that would agree that the answer to that question is a resounding 'No'! Apple copied his app AND his logo.
Or how about let's get the emails and minutes of meetings where Apple decided to "slavishly" copy Google's patent-pending notification center? Or how about GMails "Priority" inbox aka Apple's "VIP" inbox in iOS6? Apple steals, but it is okay. If others do it, they are vilified.
The point that was made is valid, and like most Apple apologists, you defend the company for doing things that you spite other companies for. Apple stole a design "purposely“, as they have done in the past, and tried to get away with it. They got caught. They have admitted so by being forced to pay money's for licensing. Not sure how anyone could argue this any other way?
"bingo. Love technology and love my products from all names in the game - (well maybe an exception for microsoft but i digress) and all companies are guilty of this - they are all for profit right?"