I actually like it. Very art deco. Definitely has a 1920's look about it.
As for Steve Jobs, the billionaire with the modest lifestyle. Ha HA. What with the private Jet and the New Mercedes SL55 every six months so he could avoid having to have a number plate. I'm not actually being critical, I just dislike the over-use of rose tinted glasses and attempts at beatification.
An iPod shuffle was more a slap-in-the-face than a gift. They should have been the Touch at the very least, or no gift at all would have been preferable. What would Touch's have cost? Let's see: a net worth of 11 B at 5% per annum, that's a bit over 1.5 M a day, or close to 63,000 each hour. Shuffles at cost?
I suggest to the mods just banning anyone making these comments. Clearly trollish behavior, and we're never going to see a worthwhile comment from these people, so no loss at all to the forum to see them gone. Think of this article as a litmus test.
Sounds like he knows exactly what he's doing, and you don't.
Have you ever been on a boat, in the ocean? Ever? Maybe a small boat on a river or a lake?
Here's a hint: Every ocean going vessel makes an attempt to avoid flat-shaped hulls, and minimize flat walls.
Why? Certainly a flat wall on a hull is easier to make than a curve. Certainly it's easier to build the sides of a hull flat, than curved.
Unless you plan on sailing on mirror-flat seas, a flat hull will aborb the imact of a wave. Curved hulls deflect some portion of this energy. Flat walls are effectively large sail areas. It's basic engineering - and this "ocean going" yacht appears designed to cruise a small lake, or simply be a floating hotel in a marina. It's a yacht that doesn't appear capable of handling seas with waves of any significant size. Additionally, the square sides will present a very large problem with maneuvering in any kind of windy situation. This much is apparent to ANYONE with the most fundamental understanding of engineering - and not an Apple fanboi.
Even the material in the hull is going to be a poor choice. Why do you suppose the metal used on ships is primarily iron and bronze (with sacrificial zinc bars on the interior?). Aluminum corrodes, and salt-water is a highly corrosive liquid to use around Aluminum. Aluminum is also susceptable to fatigue fracture; which is an undesirable trait for a ship surrounded by water. Sorry, the ocean isn't going to stop moving, just because SJ designed a boat.
If you want to see a gorgeous Yacht, that can go just about anywhere - I would use the "Octopus" as the golden standard. The ONLY impressive thing this yacht can boast is that it was largely designed by Steve Jobs. This yacht is not something I would hold as a standard, in any sense of the word (well, maybe as a foolish way to spend an obscene amount of money on).
I saw the photo flicking by and before going back to it my head started singing: Frank Lloyd Wright meets the sea.
That was my reaction at first as well... and despite actually liking Wright. In fairness, this is a miserable bastardization of FLW, but I am sure the windows will leak in deference to the man.
The only way I can imagine the boat performing on the sea is if it had a bulbous bow below the waterline... and I could imagine the pain that would have caused Jobs.
It might not be the ugliest ship in the sea... But it is no Maltese Falcon!
Funny thing about gifts: you don't get to decide that.
Originally Posted by anonymouse
I suggest to the mods just banning anyone making these comments. Clearly trollish behavior, and we're never going to see a worthwhile comment from these people, so no loss at all to the forum to see them gone. Think of this article as a litmus test.
We don't really have a hard rule against trolling, so you see… too much of it. Write up an example of one in Feedback (with a poll, perhaps?) and if the response is great enough we could try to get its approval from the site owners.
Originally Posted by Hodar
Every ocean going vessel makes an attempt to avoid flat-shaped hulls, and minimize flat walls. Unless you plan on sailing on mirror-flat seas, a flat hull will aborb the imact of a wave. Flat walls are effectively large sail areas. It's basic engineering - and this "ocean going" yacht appears designed to cruise a small lake, or simply be a floating hotel in a marina. Additionally, the square sides will present a very large problem with maneuvering in any kind of windy situation.
I suppose you'll tell me this is different for some arbitrary reason. I see… about 900 feet of flat hull and about 300 feet straight up of wall.
…not an Apple fanboi.
Having what to do with anything, exactly? No, really, explain.
Only iPod shuffles for the craftsmen who built that super expensive yacht? IPod nanos at a minimum. Who do they think built it? Foxconn?
If it was Schmidt's yacht, the workers would have gotten free Google+ accounts with complimentary cloud storage, plus one year of free access to pirated content on Google (scanned) Books.
Hmmm, they are billionaires, and they gave out shuffles and cards, how.... sweet...
It's clean, that's all I would say about it. To each their own.
Shuffles are awesome music players, and you're acting like its some kind of insult. Sounds like that spoiled 16-year-old who complained daddy bought them an Acura instead of a Ferrari for their birthday.
It mixes both Starks ideas with some of Jony Ive's (the iMac in the roofs).
A shame for the shuffle though...
It's a shame when people think the Shuffle is not a worthy gift. Or else somebody is missing the point of a GIFT and expects to be showered in diamonds and retina displays. What a shame.
It's a shame when people think the Shuffle is not a worthy gift. Or else somebody is missing the point of a GIFT and expects to be showered in diamonds and retina displays. What a shame.
Anonymouse was absolutely right. This single point seems to have brought out the trolls more than even directly Apple-related stuff.
It's pathetic. They should be ashamed. But, then again, we have a list of nearly 50 points. They've been doing a fair job of avoiding those points now that they know we know all about them, and it doesn't really leave them much to say otherwise that isn't instantaneously outed as being the stupidest thing imaginable.
On the other hand, the stupidest thing imaginable is usually pretty funny.
An iPod shuffle was more a slap-in-the-face than a gift. They should have been the Touch at the very least, or no gift at all would have been preferable. What would Touch's have cost? Let's see: a net worth of 11 B at 5% per annum, that's a bit over 1.5 M a day, or close to 63,000 each hour. Shuffles at cost?
Wow, that's not the point of a gift. A gift is a gesture of thanks. And you have convert a gesture of thanks into cost of manufacturing. Bet you're fun to shop for on your birthday. "no, mom, this Hugo Boss suit probably costs $18 to make in Bangladesh. This gift is a slap in the face, mom!"
Even the material in the hull is going to be a poor choice. Why do you suppose the metal used on ships is primarily iron and bronze (with sacrificial zinc bars on the interior?). Aluminum corrodes, and salt-water is a highly corrosive liquid to use around Aluminum. Aluminum is also susceptable to fatigue fracture; which is an undesirable trait for a ship surrounded by water. Sorry, the ocean isn't going to stop moving, just because SJ designed a boat.
Here is an image of another aluminum hulled ship. The littoral combat ship (LCS).
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Originally Posted by jowie74
Oooh iPod touch! Must've cost them at least $5 each wholesale.
How much do you think they will be worth in twenty years or so, as a collectable complete with engraving and note?
Agree. Minimalistic but cool looking. Very recognisable, too.
I actually like it. Very art deco. Definitely has a 1920's look about it.
As for Steve Jobs, the billionaire with the modest lifestyle. Ha HA. What with the private Jet and the New Mercedes SL55 every six months so he could avoid having to have a number plate. I'm not actually being critical, I just dislike the over-use of rose tinted glasses and attempts at beatification.
An iPod shuffle was more a slap-in-the-face than a gift. They should have been the Touch at the very least, or no gift at all would have been preferable. What would Touch's have cost? Let's see: a net worth of 11 B at 5% per annum, that's a bit over 1.5 M a day, or close to 63,000 each hour. Shuffles at cost?
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Originally Posted by cnocbui
... An iPod shuffle ...
I suggest to the mods just banning anyone making these comments. Clearly trollish behavior, and we're never going to see a worthwhile comment from these people, so no loss at all to the forum to see them gone. Think of this article as a litmus test.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
I really don't see how it differs from many other yachts.
Specifically, interestingly, this'n.
Sounds like he knows exactly what he's doing, and you don't.
Have you ever been on a boat, in the ocean? Ever? Maybe a small boat on a river or a lake?
Here's a hint: Every ocean going vessel makes an attempt to avoid flat-shaped hulls, and minimize flat walls.
Why? Certainly a flat wall on a hull is easier to make than a curve. Certainly it's easier to build the sides of a hull flat, than curved.
Unless you plan on sailing on mirror-flat seas, a flat hull will aborb the imact of a wave. Curved hulls deflect some portion of this energy. Flat walls are effectively large sail areas. It's basic engineering - and this "ocean going" yacht appears designed to cruise a small lake, or simply be a floating hotel in a marina. It's a yacht that doesn't appear capable of handling seas with waves of any significant size. Additionally, the square sides will present a very large problem with maneuvering in any kind of windy situation. This much is apparent to ANYONE with the most fundamental understanding of engineering - and not an Apple fanboi.
Even the material in the hull is going to be a poor choice. Why do you suppose the metal used on ships is primarily iron and bronze (with sacrificial zinc bars on the interior?). Aluminum corrodes, and salt-water is a highly corrosive liquid to use around Aluminum. Aluminum is also susceptable to fatigue fracture; which is an undesirable trait for a ship surrounded by water. Sorry, the ocean isn't going to stop moving, just because SJ designed a boat.
If you want to see a gorgeous Yacht, that can go just about anywhere - I would use the "Octopus" as the golden standard. The ONLY impressive thing this yacht can boast is that it was largely designed by Steve Jobs. This yacht is not something I would hold as a standard, in any sense of the word (well, maybe as a foolish way to spend an obscene amount of money on).
Fantastic design.
It mixes both Starks ideas with some of Jony Ive's (the iMac in the roofs).
A shame for the shuffle though...
That was my reaction at first as well... and despite actually liking Wright. In fairness, this is a miserable bastardization of FLW, but I am sure the windows will leak in deference to the man.
The only way I can imagine the boat performing on the sea is if it had a bulbous bow below the waterline... and I could imagine the pain that would have caused Jobs.
It might not be the ugliest ship in the sea... But it is no Maltese Falcon!
Originally Posted by Commodification
The gift is literally too small in this case.
You must be a dream to interact with.
Funny thing about gifts: you don't get to decide that.
Originally Posted by anonymouse
I suggest to the mods just banning anyone making these comments. Clearly trollish behavior, and we're never going to see a worthwhile comment from these people, so no loss at all to the forum to see them gone. Think of this article as a litmus test.
We don't really have a hard rule against trolling, so you see… too much of it. Write up an example of one in Feedback (with a poll, perhaps?) and if the response is great enough we could try to get its approval from the site owners.
Originally Posted by Hodar
Every ocean going vessel makes an attempt to avoid flat-shaped hulls, and minimize flat walls. Unless you plan on sailing on mirror-flat seas, a flat hull will aborb the imact of a wave. Flat walls are effectively large sail areas. It's basic engineering - and this "ocean going" yacht appears designed to cruise a small lake, or simply be a floating hotel in a marina. Additionally, the square sides will present a very large problem with maneuvering in any kind of windy situation.
I suppose you'll tell me this is different for some arbitrary reason. I see… about 900 feet of flat hull and about 300 feet straight up of wall.
…not an Apple fanboi.
Having what to do with anything, exactly? No, really, explain.
If it was Schmidt's yacht, the workers would have gotten free Google+ accounts with complimentary cloud storage, plus one year of free access to pirated content on Google (scanned) Books.
Shuffles are awesome music players, and you're acting like its some kind of insult. Sounds like that spoiled 16-year-old who complained daddy bought them an Acura instead of a Ferrari for their birthday.
It's a shame when people think the Shuffle is not a worthy gift. Or else somebody is missing the point of a GIFT and expects to be showered in diamonds and retina displays. What a shame.
Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton
It's a shame when people think the Shuffle is not a worthy gift. Or else somebody is missing the point of a GIFT and expects to be showered in diamonds and retina displays. What a shame.
Anonymouse was absolutely right. This single point seems to have brought out the trolls more than even directly Apple-related stuff.
It's pathetic. They should be ashamed. But, then again, we have a list of nearly 50 points. They've been doing a fair job of avoiding those points now that they know we know all about them, and it doesn't really leave them much to say otherwise that isn't instantaneously outed as being the stupidest thing imaginable.
On the other hand, the stupidest thing imaginable is usually pretty funny.
Wow, that's not the point of a gift. A gift is a gesture of thanks. And you have convert a gesture of thanks into cost of manufacturing. Bet you're fun to shop for on your birthday. "no, mom, this Hugo Boss suit probably costs $18 to make in Bangladesh. This gift is a slap in the face, mom!"
Looks like a building, dropped on the side...
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Originally Posted by Hodar
Even the material in the hull is going to be a poor choice. Why do you suppose the metal used on ships is primarily iron and bronze (with sacrificial zinc bars on the interior?). Aluminum corrodes, and salt-water is a highly corrosive liquid to use around Aluminum. Aluminum is also susceptable to fatigue fracture; which is an undesirable trait for a ship surrounded by water. Sorry, the ocean isn't going to stop moving, just because SJ designed a boat.
Here is an image of another aluminum hulled ship. The littoral combat ship (LCS).