The Chinese Future
They are on the road to controlling the world.
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/14/science/14ASTR.html?ex=1048222800&en=dcb9c78db743e69e&ei=5 062&partner=GOOGLE" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/14/science/14ASTR.html?ex=1048222800&en=dcb9c78db743e69e&ei=5 062&partner=GOOGLE</a>
Link from 'The Drudge Report' if nyt link is out.
To me, this is even more terrifying than Saddamn's threat. "Who controls space controls the world".
You heard it here first:
After we evacuate the International Space Station, just after their astronauts are launched in a *Soyuz* knock-off, the Chinese will declare it abandoned. Thereafter they will board it and claim it as their own under international laws of salvage.
Aries 1B
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<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/14/science/14ASTR.html?ex=1048222800&en=dcb9c78db743e69e&ei=5 062&partner=GOOGLE" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/14/science/14ASTR.html?ex=1048222800&en=dcb9c78db743e69e&ei=5 062&partner=GOOGLE</a>
Link from 'The Drudge Report' if nyt link is out.
To me, this is even more terrifying than Saddamn's threat. "Who controls space controls the world".
You heard it here first:
After we evacuate the International Space Station, just after their astronauts are launched in a *Soyuz* knock-off, the Chinese will declare it abandoned. Thereafter they will board it and claim it as their own under international laws of salvage.
Aries 1B
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btw could you fix your link. It's messing up the formating
After we evacuate the International Space Station, just after their astronauts are launched in a *Soyuz* knock-off, the Chinese will declare it abandoned. Thereafter they will board it and claim it as their own under international laws of salvage."
Dude, I *wish* we lived in a world that cool.
<strong>How could this be "more terrifying than Saddamn's threat"? It's a ridiculous statement. So China thinks they're going to mine the moon. Wait till they find out how much it cost.
btw could you fix your link. It's messing up the formating</strong><hr></blockquote>
Scott, please note how Aries linked the nytimes article. He did it through google which doesn't require us to log on. Take your stupid ai nyt account and shove it.
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Scott, please note how Aries linked the nytimes article. He did it through google which doesn't require us to log on. Take your stupid ai nyt account and shove it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
**** you shithead. If you know how to find the link you want then don't bother me. I'm not your hyperlink secratary.
China's going into orbit. Then they're going to the moon. They're not going to just 'plant a red flag' on the moon, (learning from our Vikingeesque mistake)they're going to establish a base. That base can command the high ground of the solar system that we can get to. Their space program is a subsidiary of their military who considers the US Enemy #1. Whatever investment they make in their program will yield geostrategic profits hundreds of times greater than their investment. In addition, *they* are on the road to make an infinite amount of money from the industrialization of space. So much the better for them if they can shut off our access to space.
"But they've got these crappy, low thrust rockets! They're technologically backwards! They don't have a Saturn V!" The Chinese won't care less about the mighty Saturn V *if they can mass produce those little rockets*. Launch enough of them to build a base on the moon and the base can then start manufacturing all manner of simple weapons that could be launched from the moon. They could even establish their base in the asteroid belt.
Visualize the beginning of the Movie 'Armageddon', only instead of a monster asteroid as the source of the bombardment, the source is Chinese military personnel in the asteroid belt or on the moon. If they establish space superiority we go the way of ... Spain.
This is, of course, down the road a bit. In a few weeks Saddamn will be in the history books and we'll be debating statehood for the various regions of Iraq.
Saddamn, crucial though it is to step on him like a bug before he can WMD us, compared to the future, multidimensional threat of poised by the Communist Chinese, is Coming Attractions.
Aries 1B
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Scott, please note how Aries linked the nytimes article. He did it through google which doesn't require us to log on. Take your stupid ai nyt account and shove it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
[quote]Originally posted by Scott:
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**** you shithead. If you know how to find the link you want then don't bother me. I'm not your hyperlink secratary.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think you two need to chill...
Beer anyone?
Fellows
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I think you two need to chill...
Beer anyone?
Fellows</strong><hr></blockquote>
I agree entirely.
BR, that was completely unnecessary.
Scott, uncool as well, but slightly more understandable. I personally appreciate the effort of the ai nyt account.
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I agree entirely.
BR, that was completely unnecessary.
Scott, uncool as well, but slightly more understandable. I personally appreciate the effort of the ai nyt account.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Feh. Deliberately doing something the hard way when one has been told the easy way many times over irks me. Compound that with Scott's pro-Saddam left comments and anti-US comments and my silly post in this thread was the result. I'm sorry I stooped to his level. I formally apologize to you, Jonathan, for disrupting the continuity of the thread then and now.
<strong>I don't think the US is public enemy number one to China. In fact, I think we have been historically one of their more favorable countries.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Probabily.
China is , a sefl centered nation. She has never been interested much by increasing the size of her empire, at the exception of Tibet.
Chinese people are very proud of their 4 thousands years history, a record of continuity in humanhood. China is an isolationist countrie by tradition, it will be a big turn if she turned in a spatial colonial power.
<strong>I don't think the US is public enemy number one to China. In fact, I think we have been historically one of their more favorable countries.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Did you read the article? We thoroughly pissed them off by grounding their satellite launching program.
<strong>They are on the road to controlling the world.
To me, this is even more terrifying than Saddamn's threat. "Who controls space controls the world".
Aries 1B
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Are you insulting my country!!??
No, China is still considered by most as a "Third World Country"
Developments have been fast, but not that fast. I can assure you, closed minded Americans like you need not to fear.
Jesus, yet you Americans complain about the rising Anti-Americanism. Introspection would do you good. Hatred towards Americans origninates from Americans' hatred and hostility to the world.
(And don't start talking about the difference between the american people and the government. You're a democracy, remember)
Having said that, I have nothing personal against most Americans and I'm going there to study very soon.
(My father always told me to be careful, as "Someday, Uncle Sam will kick [my] ass"
We've got a new president as of today.
And about the statement about China being a closed society full of tradition. This is partially correct, but the people of china are very open minded and they look to the future.
About Tibet: China wasn't seeking land. Tibet had been an unofficial part of China for thousands of years. China had given them millitary protection and benefits so Tibet is thought of as always having belong to China. Lets not get into this though, as I know there are a lot of you who think Tibet should be independent. (And there are a lot of you who actually think it already is:There's a belgian girl in my class whose father works for the UN who thought this <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
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