Rumor: Apple to debut 4.8" 'iPhone Math' device alongside next-gen iPhone in June

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  • Reply 121 of 214


    4.8" iPhone?  Yes please.  I would love to have the extra battery all of that internal space could provide.  And it would make reading and browsing a little nicer as well.

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    They don't just have one size of Macbook. They shouldn't have just one size of iPhone.



     

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    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member

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    Originally Posted by sranger View Post


    If they offer a 4.5-5" iPhone I will get one.  The small screen on the iPhone is the main reason left for me to stay with my Android phone.  I am a big person and simply prefer a larger phone.....


     


    I have never really understood the reason people here bash the larger phones so much.  My 4.6" Display Galaxy Nexus fits in all of my pockets with a rubber cover on it and it is quite comfortable to hold.  Even my little 5'-2" wife seem to be able to operate it just fine.  I can understand why a person will small hands might not like it, but people do come in different sizes....





    The main difference is you can not operate the 4.6" Display Galaxy Nexus with one hand.  Could you?

  • Reply 124 of 214


    finally catching on that one form factor doesn't meet everyone's needs.  When they had the market to themselves, sure, it was the thing to have, now with larger sizes, longer battery life, BB10, google phone,  it's time to compete.  Good to hear they are coming out with new models and keep more people in their ecosystem.

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    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    applepi wrote: »
    They don't just have one size of Macbook. They shouldn't have just one size of iPhone.

    That comparison makes no sense. Mac OS X is a windowed OS. With a windowed OS you can easily have computer displays that range from 10" to 40" and still be highly usable. You can not scale iOS with a single UI in such a way.
  • Reply 126 of 214
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member


    I think Apple needs to make an iPhone that will function solely as a notification center and phone.  It will be paired with a larger device via bluetooth.  When a notification comes you swipe it and it will bring up the full notification on the larger device.  Basically the idea behind this setup is to separate the phone capability with an internet device. 

  • Reply 127 of 214
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member

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    Originally Posted by tzeshan View Post


    I think Apple needs to make an iPhone that will function solely as a notification center and phone.  It will be paired with a larger device via bluetooth.  When a notification comes you swipe it and it will bring up the full notification on the larger device.  Basically the idea behind this setup is to separate the phone capability with an internet device. 



    I think like Jobs said Apple has all the necessary components patented. 

  • Reply 128 of 214
    applepiapplepi Posts: 365member

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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    That comparison makes no sense. Mac OS X is a windowed OS. With a windowed OS you can easily have computer displays that range from 10" to 40" and still be highly usable. You can not scale iOS with a single UI in such a way.


     


    Of course you can. They did it with the iPhone 5 and they did it with the iPad Mini. It's not at all out the realm for them to scale iOS to a 4.8 or 5" display. 



    Or let me put it to you a better way, if they can't when Android can, guess who is going to lose in the long run? Because when I saw a non-geeky "female" co-worker with a Galaxy Note II last week that she just loves, it really proved to me that larger phones are selling because people do want them. Not everyone lives and breaths Apple. Even my own brand loyalty is starting to fade with all Apples patent BS and Android improvements going on.



     

  • Reply 129 of 214
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    applepi wrote: »
    Of course you can. They did it with the iPhone 5 and they did it with the iPad Mini. It's not at all out the realm for them to scale iOS to a 4.8 or 5" display. 


    Or let me put it to you a better way, if they can't when Android can, guess who is going to lose in the long run? Because when I saw a non-geeky "female" co-worker with a Galaxy Note II last week that she just loves, it really proved to me that larger phones are selling because people do want them. Not everyone lives and breaths Apple. Even my own brand loyalty is starting to fade with all Apples patent BS and Android improvements going on.

    No, they didn't. They increased the vertical pixels and as a result updated their UI to take advantage of the new resolution and updated the SDK so that apps can be tailored to the new size. The iPad mini uses the same aspect ratio and resolution of the iPad 2. You cannot simply have disparate aspect ratios, resolutions and sizes on a touch-based, non-windowed OS and expect it to carry over with the same usability like with a windowed desktop OS. This is not something you can debate.
  • Reply 130 of 214
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,674member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    I'd love to see a mockup of a Samsung Galaxy S phone with wheels and extendable handle like a carry on suitcase.

    1000

    There's a pathetic 1'06'' video at that site as well
  • Reply 131 of 214
    applepiapplepi Posts: 365member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    No, they didn't. They increased the vertical pixels and as a result updated their UI to take advantage of the new resolution and updated the SDK so that apps can be tailored to the new size. The iPad mini uses the same aspect ratio and resolution of the iPad 2. You cannot simply have disparate aspect ratios, resolutions and sizes on a touch-based, non-windowed OS and expect it to carry over with the same usability like with a windowed desktop OS. This is not something you can debate.




    All I said originally was that there are different sizes of Macbooks, they should have different sizes of iPhones. I don't care how they do it. All I'm saying is they will figure out a way because if they don't they leave a portential market segment wide open to be filled only by Android and Windows Phone devices. 



    Did anyone of us guess that to make a 4" iPhone they would just add another row of icons? I'm sure they can find some other nifty method that doesn't break their interface in order to reach 5".

  • Reply 132 of 214


    I think that more important than a 'larger Iphone' is the customers desire for choice.  While some prefer a smaller Iphone for their needs  and convenience, others want a larger Iphone for a better gaming device. Bottom Line............Let the customer choose.  It's time for Apple to realize that a strategy of 1 iphone a year is not enough.


    Customers would probably be willing to pay more for a high end iphone. In reading alot of these posts about  wanting a larger Iphone, nobody complained about the ecosysytem, price  or anything other than size.


     


    Apple has to give the customer choice in their type iphone, not only choice of color.

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    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    philboogie wrote: »
    1000

    There's a pathetic 1'06'' video at that site as well

    Note the worst thing I've seen. It's not a bad place to put a tablet but I think having it on the handlebars so you can look down at the GPS data might be more beneficial.


    PS: I don't understand how money that is spent on these promotional gimmicks will help turn a profit. Yesterday I saw a video of an Aston Martin being helicoptered* up to the helipad of the Burj al Arab hotel (the one that looks like a sail) in Dubai.


    * I was surprised to find that spellcheck doesn't have a problem with helicoptered.
  • Reply 134 of 214
    I have to admit to being somewhat baffled as to the direction of smartphone sizes. In my mind, maintaining a small form factor seems like the logical direction. IMO, I feel Apple's iPhone 5 struck a balance with respect to screen size and the overall size of the phone - I upgraded from a 3GS so the difference is very apparent to me.

    That being said, there does appear to be interest in larger screens despite the need to carry around a larger device. I've had random people tell me that they like the larger sized screens, however I suspect that lower prices of some of these phablets has a lot to do with their apparent popularity. There's no way of knowing what Apple would do for pricing such a device - although larger, actual component cost might actually be less (i.e. cost of miniaturization). Assuming, however, that Apple charges more for the larger screen, perhaps justifying the premium price for say very thin design or some other feature, and sales of the larger screen outsell the current iPhone 5 sized screen, then I think it's safe to say that the apparent demand for larger screened devices is in fact real and not just because they are cheaper. I assume one could (and probably have) make said assessment now within the Android market assuming price/feature sets between the two devices are comparable. However in doing so, I think one also needs to factor in what the actual up cost to a higher featured phone is, if one is free and you get a lot more for say >$100 for a two year contract, then for many it might be small thing, but if the cost of the low-end device is already ~$400 every additional dollar for the additional features carries great consideration than the example above. If it's not apparent above, I'm only vaguely familiar with the costs and features of Android phones.
  • Reply 135 of 214
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    applepi wrote: »

    All I said originally was that there are different sizes of Macbooks, they should have different sizes of iPhones. I don't care how they do it. All I'm saying is they will figure out a way because if they don't they leave a portential market segment wide open to be filled only by Android and Windows Phone devices. 


    Did anyone of us guess that to make a 4" iPhone they would just add another row of icons? I'm sure they can find some other nifty method that doesn't break their interface in order to reach 5".

    Some layouts are friendly to multiple sizings, but many apps might need to be adapted to more pixels. A layout that's optimal for the larger, higher pixel screens might need to drop something to fit to the older, smaller screen devices.

    Personally, I would be OK with a slight reduction in ppi, buttons on the iPhone are pretty tiny in my opinion.
  • Reply 136 of 214
    Could this be translation error and this represents the iPhone Max (aka opposite of Mini)?
  • Reply 137 of 214
    focherfocher Posts: 687member
    I counted about 3 people in this comment section that have any understanding whatsoever about Apple as a company. Consumer choice, offering a product because other companies do, developing / selling cheap (as in quality, not price) items, or having an extensive set of options / configurations for products are all in the "Apple doesn't do that" bucket of useless predictions.

    It will always remain possible for Apple to offer products of any type, but it's based purely on whether they feel like they can deliver an exceptional product with a healthy margin.
  • Reply 138 of 214
    larryalarrya Posts: 590member
    And your not in the spelling business. Spell Check if you please.

    You mean "you're"?
  • Reply 139 of 214
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 14,807moderator
    solipsismx wrote:
    I'd love to see a mockup of a Samsung Galaxy S phone with wheels and extendable handle like a carry on suitcase.

    Like this?

    1000
    applepi wrote:
    They don't just have one size of Macbook. They shouldn't have just one size of iPhone.

    You don't operate a Macbok screen with your thumb though. Why would they go to all the bother of describing that they designed the iPhone around your hand to then just say to hell with it, let's make it wider?
    applepi wrote:
    Because when I saw a non-geeky "female" co-worker with a Galaxy Note II last week that she just loves, it really proved to me that larger phones are selling because people do want them.

    Is it solely because of the size or also because it has a stylus? Some people might like the idea of scribbling notes.

    The sales also don't match the iPhone by a long shot:

    http://thenextweb.com/asia/2012/11/26/absolutely-phabulous-samsungs-galaxy-note-ii-passes-5m-channel-sales-adding-3m-in-24-days/

    At best it's 2.5m per month so 7.5m per quarter. Apple sold that many iPhone 5s in less than a week. In even a poor quarter, it would represent 1/3 of their sales and it wouldn't entirely be on top of the smaller iPhone sales.

    I don't think anyone is denying that some people have bigger hands and some people like bigger devices, it's more that Apple doesn't have to accommodate the market. People are free to use Android phones or 17" Windows laptops or whatever other options they choose not to offer.
    radnuker wrote:
    Could this be translation error and this represents the iPhone Max (aka opposite of Mini)?

    It can't really be a mistranslation as the source says Math, it would be called that everywhere as it's the name of the product. The Samsung Galaxy is the Galaxy everywhere. It's one of those examples of rumours where they either want to put out something confusing to get people talking about it (which seems to have worked) - usually this is to affect the stock price - or it's one of those examples where Apple is trying to flush out the source of leaks.
  • Reply 140 of 214
    gwmacgwmac Posts: 1,800member


    The only way this debate will ever be settled is if Apple offers both a large screen and a smaller screen version at the same time. People that say the smaller screen would be more popular are not factoring in a lot of people like me that love iOS and everything else about the iPhone except for the screen size. By that logic the fact that I bought an iPhone might be counted as a vote in favor of a smaller screen which most definitely is not the case. Why is that important? Because disgruntled customers are the first ones to jump ship. My next phone will have a larger screen when I can upgrade in June. I have a 4S and the 4" of the iPhone 5 just won't cut it. If Apple releases anything larger than 4.5" I will stick with an iPhone. If not I will get the best Android phone at the time that meets my needs. 


     


    My only fear is Apple will pull their old larger = more expensive like they did with the 17" Macbook Pro. There really wasn't a good reason why the price was so much higher than the 15" model and one of the reasons why it didn't have a fair shot at selling in decent numbers and was ultimately discontinued.  Unless a larger iPhone differs in more ways than screen size alone I hope they keep the price the same. Perhaps a small premium of $50 would be tolerable, but no more than that. 


     


    iPhone+ does have a nice ring to it and would explain the Math name. 

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