My big concern is that this is a really nice app and I would hate to see it go away for good. For people that are really interested in photography 500pix is the premier site and two iPhone apps they have are both beautiful - two of the best apps I've used. Yes there is a handful of nude stuff out there, but not a lot and what is out there definitely seems to be artistic versus pornographic. I kind of think it is silly for Apple to pull these apps. Hopefully Apple and 500pix come up with a way to address this concern.
To some folks out there the definition of pornography includes an image of a woman in a dress that shows her knees. Most medical journals classify as pornography somewhere out there in our big world. Ah the days of the JC Penney catalogue... now that was good pr0n!
HA!
Have to agree. Apple is overstepping here. There is no such ban on the browser, and no controls to prevent such searches. The app seems to have the required safety protocols and only after a user goes into the desktop version of the website can it be disabled.
At some point Apple has to realize that adults use these devices, and the parents are going to have to be responsible for such. If they allow their children unrestricted access to their desktop, then I think their last concern will be the phone accessing nudity.
how does your comment add to the discussion? it doesn't. please delete it, seeing as how you're a global moderator & administrator and that's what you do.
Maybe if there was more sex there would be less violence.
More violent sex though but then it could get approval as violence seems to be ok.
I think the question of pornography is really down to how much it turns you on. A nude photo of Phil Schiller for example wouldn't be pornography. A nude photo of Tim might be though - he seems like a p90x guy and probably has rock hard abs. You don't have the following facial expression in your range unless you plan to use it in a risqué situation:
Regarding browsers, I actually think Apple would censor them if they could. It's probably more a case of the internet being outside of their control. With a single photo service, there's a single entry point to the offensive content and a much more limited range of content. Plus the app owner will be hosting all the images. Web browsers are really just indexing multiple servers.
What they really need to do is have a password restricted part of the App Store so that if an app is too offensive, it doesn't show up in the main search results and you have to have a credit card attached to your account to let you in.
The app developers probably can't even fix this issue because people will just start uploading pornographic images under generic names so they can't flag them easily.
I'm happy that my Android phone seems to do everything that the iPhone can do. If there's something missing, I haven't noticed it. Should Apple further merge iOS into OS X and make installation of third-party apps outside of the App store impossible, I'll wipe it from my systems and install Ubuntu (which I've been running on a netbook to see if I can live with it as a permanent replacement, because I suspect that is coming).
Apparently the old Apple 1984 ad got it backward. Obviously, it's their playground, and they can make the rules. If that playground gets too large I will lobby the FTC to pursue anti-trust actions. Apple is making enemies with its App Store policies, but apparently people like Shiny more than they like their freedoms.
Hipster's app has actual porn throughout, nothing artistic about it. I am a photographer, 500px has quality content that I appreciate... arguably the highest quality photographic art in the App Store. Removing 500px and not addressing Hipster is just ridiculous. 500px should lawyer up.
Apple has decided they don't want to participate in pornography. I applaud and respect their decision. Many people see pornography as a first amendment right. I think the first amendment also includes the right to abstain from such things if a person or business decides to. I hope they stick to their guns.
One problem is the assertion that nudity = pornography. Another problem is also the fact that their own apps access content that everyone would consider hard core pornography. It is their sandbox (iOS) and that's why I'm not playing in it.
Should Apple further merge iOS into OS X and make installation of third-party apps outside of the App store impossible, I'll wipe it from my systems and install Ubuntu (which I've been running on a netbook to see if I can live with it as a permanent replacement, because I suspect that is coming).
how does your comment add to the discussion? it doesn't. please delete it, seeing as how you're a global moderator & administrator and that's what you do.
It's people like you who just make me want to delete my AppleInsider account. I've been similarly bullied over inane comments. Read the forum guidelines before posting. This is why you aren't a moderator and your addressee is.
how does your comment add to the discussion? it doesn't. please delete it, seeing as how you're a global moderator & administrator and that's what you do.
how does your comment add to the discussion? it doesn't. please delete it, seeing as how you're a global moderator & administrator and that's what you do.
It's people like you who just make me want to delete my AppleInsider account. I've been similarly bullied over inane comments. Read the forum guidelines before posting. This is why you aren't a moderator and your addressee is.
vendetta? hardly. TS routinely deletes others' comments because they "don't add to the discussion" yet he allows himself to post all the inane comments he wants. others have called him on it but he pays no mind because, hey, it's good to be king.
his comment above simply does not add to the discussion yet he leaves it, thereby making him a hypocrite.
he relishes his "global moderator" and "administrator" titles so much that he's offering similar titles up to anyone with 1,000 posts or more.
and the only reason he has 20,000+ posts is because he is usually one of the first commenters on an article, and the comment more often than not "does not add to the discussion". kinda like parents telling their kids to "do as i say and not as i do". this site consists of poorly written rumours and ads disguised as "articles", peppered with an occasional piece worth reading along with community moderators who just don't have the ability to wear two separate hats: their own opinions vs. what is necessary to maintain a decent site.
and bullying? hardly. but don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out. i have no desire to be a moderator.
please, point me to the text you'd like me to read.
That's exactly the problem with the AppStore. Thank you , Apple, for once again demonstrating the problem with 1984's Orwellian society. Too bad this is real life.
What's next? AT&T silently drops sexts? Apple erases your lover from your contacts because hey, you're married?
To some folks out there the definition of pornography includes an image of a woman in a dress that shows her knees. Most medical journals classify as pornography somewhere out there in our big world. Ah the days of the JC Penney catalogue... now that was good pr0n!
HA!
To some people out there, it would include women not in a burqa, especially if not walking behind her brother, husband or father.
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National Geographic too.
Have to agree. Apple is overstepping here. There is no such ban on the browser, and no controls to prevent such searches. The app seems to have the required safety protocols and only after a user goes into the desktop version of the website can it be disabled.
At some point Apple has to realize that adults use these devices, and the parents are going to have to be responsible for such. If they allow their children unrestricted access to their desktop, then I think their last concern will be the phone accessing nudity.
Originally Posted by Pooch
how does your comment add to the discussion? it doesn't. please delete it, seeing as how you're a global moderator & administrator and that's what you do.
Enjoy your vendetta.
More violent sex though but then it could get approval as violence seems to be ok.
I think the question of pornography is really down to how much it turns you on. A nude photo of Phil Schiller for example wouldn't be pornography. A nude photo of Tim might be though - he seems like a p90x guy and probably has rock hard abs. You don't have the following facial expression in your range unless you plan to use it in a risqué situation:
Regarding browsers, I actually think Apple would censor them if they could. It's probably more a case of the internet being outside of their control. With a single photo service, there's a single entry point to the offensive content and a much more limited range of content. Plus the app owner will be hosting all the images. Web browsers are really just indexing multiple servers.
What they really need to do is have a password restricted part of the App Store so that if an app is too offensive, it doesn't show up in the main search results and you have to have a credit card attached to your account to let you in.
The app developers probably can't even fix this issue because people will just start uploading pornographic images under generic names so they can't flag them easily.
This is why the only Apple products I own are the macbook I'm typing this on, and an older iMac I keep as backup. I made my decision back in 2009 when the story broke that Apple's reviewers banned an app because it could access Project Gutenberg (!) which contains a copy of the Kama Sutra which they deemed pornographic. That's wrong on multiple levels, and I won't own any device that runs iOS until they significantly revise their policies.
Apple isn't just prudish about mere nudity. Apple isn't just hypocritical in publishing their own apps that can access much more obscene content. There's the incident with Mark Fiore, the Pulitzer Prize winning cartoonist who had an app rejected for violating the policy against satire of public figures. In that case, after sufficient negative publicity they reversed their decision and informed Fiore they'd accepted his app and changed their policy. Then it turned out the policy change was a lie intended to salvage their reputation. They made an exception for Fiore's app because it looked like it might hurt their bottom line apparently.
I'm happy that my Android phone seems to do everything that the iPhone can do. If there's something missing, I haven't noticed it. Should Apple further merge iOS into OS X and make installation of third-party apps outside of the App store impossible, I'll wipe it from my systems and install Ubuntu (which I've been running on a netbook to see if I can live with it as a permanent replacement, because I suspect that is coming).
Apparently the old Apple 1984 ad got it backward. Obviously, it's their playground, and they can make the rules. If that playground gets too large I will lobby the FTC to pursue anti-trust actions. Apple is making enemies with its App Store policies, but apparently people like Shiny more than they like their freedoms.
One problem is the assertion that nudity = pornography. Another problem is also the fact that their own apps access content that everyone would consider hard core pornography. It is their sandbox (iOS) and that's why I'm not playing in it.
Originally Posted by Mike Lewinski
Should Apple further merge iOS into OS X and make installation of third-party apps outside of the App store impossible, I'll wipe it from my systems and install Ubuntu (which I've been running on a netbook to see if I can live with it as a permanent replacement, because I suspect that is coming).
May as well install it now and be done.
Id love an iPad dA app, it would totally breach the rules, sooo much awesome awesome art (nudie pics)
Nudity is wrong in the eyes of the christian right who want to make all iPhones into bibles and tea cozies.
vendetta? hardly. TS routinely deletes others' comments because they "don't add to the discussion" yet he allows himself to post all the inane comments he wants. others have called him on it but he pays no mind because, hey, it's good to be king.
his comment above simply does not add to the discussion yet he leaves it, thereby making him a hypocrite.
he relishes his "global moderator" and "administrator" titles so much that he's offering similar titles up to anyone with 1,000 posts or more.
and the only reason he has 20,000+ posts is because he is usually one of the first commenters on an article, and the comment more often than not "does not add to the discussion". kinda like parents telling their kids to "do as i say and not as i do". this site consists of poorly written rumours and ads disguised as "articles", peppered with an occasional piece worth reading along with community moderators who just don't have the ability to wear two separate hats: their own opinions vs. what is necessary to maintain a decent site.
and bullying? hardly. but don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out. i have no desire to be a moderator.
please, point me to the text you'd like me to read.
Opinion can't be "erroneous".
OK, let's make a test (I guess I am taking risks, here ...). Monty Python's Full Frontal nudity :
What's next? AT&T silently drops sexts? Apple erases your lover from your contacts because hey, you're married?
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Originally Posted by Alexmit
To some folks out there the definition of pornography includes an image of a woman in a dress that shows her knees. Most medical journals classify as pornography somewhere out there in our big world. Ah the days of the JC Penney catalogue... now that was good pr0n!
HA!
To some people out there, it would include women not in a burqa, especially if not walking behind her brother, husband or father.
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Originally Posted by Chris_CA
Siri will kindly look for nude pictures and pornographic pictures on the internet for you.
What a little skank. I knew she was like that anyway from the very word she said