The logic does not apply because you are ignoring cause and effect. Had Jobs been there, he would have most likely not green lit the production of the new iMac, or many other things that are currently causing problems due to not being ready. Even though he set those things in motion, the responsibility of bringing them into production wasn't his. Furthermore, Apple has been losing value since September, and before then wasn't progressing much since April, either, two points that coincided with the release of the new MacBook Pros and the iPhone 5. This is not to mention that Cook hasn't even been CEO for 18 months.
Like he green lit the White iPhone 4?
Oh snap.
Like he geen lit MobileMe?
Oh snap.
You can go on for a long time on the times Steve Green Lit that were far from successes. Keep trying.
I must and you must not if you don't see Apple having grown 70% in the last 18 months.
Apple has grown that much (if we include the stagnant fiscal 2011 4th quarter as the beginning period of growth and the fiscal 2013 1st quarter as the end period) but I do not credit Cook with the entirety of that growth by any means whatsoever (which means I'd rather compare yoy quarters and that I give Cook only 2012 as his first true calendar year because Job's influence on the entirety of 2011 is undeniable imo).
If you want to compare net profit fiscal q1 2012 to q1 2013... well, let's do that. Hmmmm... yup... 70%... sure... uh huh...
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Originally Posted by island hermit
Obviously you do not.
I must and you must not if you don't see Apple having grown 70% in the last 18 months.
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Originally Posted by Vaelian
The logic does not apply because you are ignoring cause and effect. Had Jobs been there, he would have most likely not green lit the production of the new iMac, or many other things that are currently causing problems due to not being ready. Even though he set those things in motion, the responsibility of bringing them into production wasn't his. Furthermore, Apple has been losing value since September, and before then wasn't progressing much since April, either, two points that coincided with the release of the new MacBook Pros and the iPhone 5. This is not to mention that Cook hasn't even been CEO for 18 months.
Like he green lit the White iPhone 4?
Oh snap.
Like he geen lit MobileMe?
Oh snap.
You can go on for a long time on the times Steve Green Lit that were far from successes. Keep trying.
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Originally Posted by Steven N.
I must and you must not if you don't see Apple having grown 70% in the last 18 months.
Apple has grown that much (if we include the stagnant fiscal 2011 4th quarter as the beginning period of growth and the fiscal 2013 1st quarter as the end period) but I do not credit Cook with the entirety of that growth by any means whatsoever (which means I'd rather compare yoy quarters and that I give Cook only 2012 as his first true calendar year because Job's influence on the entirety of 2011 is undeniable imo).
If you want to compare net profit fiscal q1 2012 to q1 2013... well, let's do that. Hmmmm... yup... 70%... sure... uh huh...
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As I said... I'm waiting until 2013 is over before I pass judgement.
You passed judgment 18 months ago.
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Originally Posted by Steven N.
You passed judgment 18 months ago.
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If there's such a huge pool of evidence like you claim, then there's no reason for failing to quote a sample...
That post doesn't even address decreased demand.
See above.
Citation needed.
The point of the sarcasm is to troll through a straw man fallacy.
Citation? An example would do:
Try reading AppleInsider
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/155453/iphone-5-order-cuts-dismissed-as-not-news-simply-noise
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/155598/attempting-to-decipher-supply-chain-data-is-a-fools-errand-tim-cook-says
And Gruber links to a fine bunch of numbers here:
http://thefelderreport.com/2013/01/24/mr-market-is-not-impressed-with-apple-and-why-hes-wrong/