He went on to tout Google's record as trustworthy.
"I think, to be truthful, we have a pretty unblemished record of serving every human... What I would like to be judged on is our actual behavior. I think we've gotten an A, maybe an A+."
Is this guy serious? I guess they didn't just get fined for what they did with Safari.
I was using Google's new iPhone map app today. That is one quality sweet app with seamless integration of Street View. Street View was exactly what I needed for a query this afternoon. I hope they come out with an iPad version soon! Just sayin'!
Michael T. Jones must have a very short memory, or little depth to his Internet experience, as Google Maps was widely panned for...the exact same issues facing Apple Maps.
Michael T. Jones must have a very short memory, or little depth to his Internet experience, as Google Maps was widely panned for...the exact same issues facing Apple Maps.
Either that or he thinks that the public won't be bright enough to remember that Google has had all the same issues. Bashing Apple seems to be all the rage these days.
I've been purposely using turn-by-turn while traveling in and around the San Francisco Bay Area since the inception of 'Map-gate' with out ANY issues. This includes both known, little known and unknown routes. With only inconsequential deviations from my own 'local knowledge' route preferences, the system has been flawless.
Stupid google is on a propaganda campaign against apple. They're all taking turns being snarky, smug and insulting. Well F U google.
I just watched the interview itself. FWIW the subject of Apple was first raised by the interviewer in accordance with a question on privacy. In the entire interview Apple might have been mentioned three times or so by Mr. Jones. It definitely wasn't an Apple-bashing. I did see it was certainly a nervous joke about Apple Maps rather than a light-hearted comment, so I've no idea why he bothered. I think it was a bit of a cheap-shot even if it was supposed to be a joke. As someone else mentioned it's the kind of comment Mr. Jobs was known for (Jobs delivery was just a lot better). Other than the single comment neither Google maps nor Apple maps was the subject of any questions or other comments, so neither mapset wasn't really covered in the interview.
One of the most interesting points he made, and not mentioned in the AI article, was how they reconcile their goal of the public's open access to information with foreign government demands. They simply decline to offer services like GMail in a country where that government demands unimpeded access to it rather than sell out the users to that government. Iran, North Korea and China were specifically mentioned. Begins about the 2:07 mark.
As others have commented here, I've intentionally used only Apple Maps since the 6.0 release to test it and it has never failed me, either in guidance or in a look-up query. I have used it often on a daily basis in both the southwest US and in the UK over the holidays. Granted, I don't use mass transit or some of the other features Google Maps provide, but other than that Apple Maps is excellent for me--and I suspect many others. Apple stumbled a bit on its release and over-promised as to the capability of the product, but I have no doubt Apple's Maps will be every bit as comprehensive as Google's in the reasonably near future. And I suspect that is the real motivation behind Jone's alleged "joke".
I just watched the interview itself. FWIW the subject of Apple was first raised by the interviewer in accordance with a question on privacy.
I'm sure he was happy to change the subject if they were talking about privacy.
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We don't need you to type at all. We know where you are. We know where you've been. We can more or less know what you're thinking about. -- Eric Schmidt
Not surprised to see you out attempting damage control, though, GG.
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"I think you should be worried about getting where you want to go if you use Apple Maps," he said, parrying another question on personal information. "If you want to be honest, you're taking your life in your own hands there."
It's better than putting my life into YOUR hands, you disgusting, hypocritical hacks.
Actually Gatorguy suggests you watch the video before passing judgement on something you never bothered to look at for yourself. Note my comments in post 29.
This American phrase has been in circulation since, primarily restricted to America, the latter part of the 19th century, although its use faded throughout the 20th century and it is now something of an anachronism. The first example of it that I can find is from the US journal Ballou's dollar monthly magazine, Volume 5, January 1857:
Heavens to Betsy!" he exclaims...
It is possible that the phrase is a minced oath and an alternative to 'Hell's bells', although there's no real evidence of that,
Of course, what we would like to know is, 'was Betsy a real person and, if so, who?'. Various theories have been put forward but it is unlikely that she will be identified. For phrases that contain names that are genuinely eponymous, i.e. named after a known person or fictional character, it isn't difficult to trace the person concerned, as in 'sweet Fanny Adams', 'kiss me Hardy' etc. When we come to phrase like 'Mickey Finn', 'happy as Larry', where there is doubt as to the named person, a strong case can be made to suggest that the names were invented. That seems to be the case with Betsy.
The etymologist Charles Earle Funk published Heavens to Betsy! and other curious sayings in 1955. In that he ventured the opinion that the origins of 'Heavens to Betsy' were "completely unsolvable".
Thanks Gatorguy, a good watch. He seems profound. But I don't think Google is as well. He says they are a rated A company, in his view. But didn't they publish books without authors' consent and therefore take it all offline when called upon that? And don't they scan gmail attachments for copyright material, kinda reversing what they did themselves?
Well, big company. Maybe one department was doing 1 thing, another department doing the opposite.
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You're referring to yourself in the third person now?
From my personal use the new Google Maps app is worse than Apple Maps. Plus with Google you don't have the ability to add the address you are looking at to a contact.
Actually Gatorguy suggests you watch the video before passing judgement on something you never bothered to look at for yourself. Note my comments in post 29.
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider
He went on to tout Google's record as trustworthy.
"I think, to be truthful, we have a pretty unblemished record of serving every human... What I would like to be judged on is our actual behavior. I think we've gotten an A, maybe an A+."
Is this guy serious? I guess they didn't just get fined for what they did with Safari.
Seriously, grow up.
I was using Google's new iPhone map app today. That is one quality sweet app with seamless integration of Street View. Street View was exactly what I needed for a query this afternoon. I hope they come out with an iPad version soon! Just sayin'!
Love you iOS!!
Either that or he thinks that the public won't be bright enough to remember that Google has had all the same issues. Bashing Apple seems to be all the rage these days.
I've been purposely using turn-by-turn while traveling in and around the San Francisco Bay Area since the inception of 'Map-gate' with out ANY issues. This includes both known, little known and unknown routes. With only inconsequential deviations from my own 'local knowledge' route preferences, the system has been flawless.
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Originally Posted by vqro
Stupid google is on a propaganda campaign against apple. They're all taking turns being snarky, smug and insulting. Well F U google.
I just watched the interview itself. FWIW the subject of Apple was first raised by the interviewer in accordance with a question on privacy. In the entire interview Apple might have been mentioned three times or so by Mr. Jones. It definitely wasn't an Apple-bashing. I did see it was certainly a nervous joke about Apple Maps rather than a light-hearted comment, so I've no idea why he bothered. I think it was a bit of a cheap-shot even if it was supposed to be a joke. As someone else mentioned it's the kind of comment Mr. Jobs was known for (Jobs delivery was just a lot better). Other than the single comment neither Google maps nor Apple maps was the subject of any questions or other comments, so neither mapset wasn't really covered in the interview.
One of the most interesting points he made, and not mentioned in the AI article, was how they reconcile their goal of the public's open access to information with foreign government demands. They simply decline to offer services like GMail in a country where that government demands unimpeded access to it rather than sell out the users to that government. Iran, North Korea and China were specifically mentioned. Begins about the 2:07 mark.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-08/one-plus-one-michael-t-jones/4508814
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
I just watched the interview itself. FWIW the subject of Apple was first raised by the interviewer in accordance with a question on privacy.
I'm sure he was happy to change the subject if they were talking about privacy.
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We don't need you to type at all. We know where you are. We know where you've been. We can more or less know what you're thinking about. -- Eric Schmidt
Not surprised to see you out attempting damage control, though, GG.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Ummm... he was lightening the conversation, tossing in a joke. It sounds as tho he paid a number of compliments to Apple during the interview.
BTW if you're curious who he is there's a short bio here:
http://www.googleventures.com/team/michael-jones
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I don't have any problems, works very well for me
NE USA
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Originally Posted by John.B
Gatorguy once again rides to the defense of poor, beleaguered Google!
Actually Gatorguy suggests you watch the video before passing judgement on something you never bothered to look at for yourself. Note my comments in post 29.
Originally Posted by AppleInsider
"I think you should be worried about getting where you want to go if you use Apple Maps," he said, parrying another question on personal information. "If you want to be honest, you're taking your life in your own hands there."
It's better than putting my life into YOUR hands, you disgusting, hypocritical hacks.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Actually Gatorguy suggests you watch the video before passing judgement on something you never bothered to look at for yourself. Note my comments in post 29.
Yours is a lost cause... lipstick on a pig.
Thanks tripper, hadn't heard that one.
Heavens to Betsy
Meaning
A mild exclamation of surprise.
Origin
This American phrase has been in circulation since, primarily restricted to America, the latter part of the 19th century, although its use faded throughout the 20th century and it is now something of an anachronism. The first example of it that I can find is from the US journal Ballou's dollar monthly magazine, Volume 5, January 1857:
Heavens to Betsy!" he exclaims...
It is possible that the phrase is a minced oath and an alternative to 'Hell's bells', although there's no real evidence of that,
Of course, what we would like to know is, 'was Betsy a real person and, if so, who?'. Various theories have been put forward but it is unlikely that she will be identified. For phrases that contain names that are genuinely eponymous, i.e. named after a known person or fictional character, it isn't difficult to trace the person concerned, as in 'sweet Fanny Adams', 'kiss me Hardy' etc. When we come to phrase like 'Mickey Finn', 'happy as Larry', where there is doubt as to the named person, a strong case can be made to suggest that the names were invented. That seems to be the case with Betsy.
The etymologist Charles Earle Funk published Heavens to Betsy! and other curious sayings in 1955. In that he ventured the opinion that the origins of 'Heavens to Betsy' were "completely unsolvable".
Thanks Gatorguy, a good watch. He seems profound. But I don't think Google is as well. He says they are a rated A company, in his view. But didn't they publish books without authors' consent and therefore take it all offline when called upon that? And don't they scan gmail attachments for copyright material, kinda reversing what they did themselves?
Well, big company. Maybe one department was doing 1 thing, another department doing the opposite.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
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Originally Posted by John.B
Gatorguy once again rides to the defense of poor, beleaguered Google!
Actually Gatorguy suggests you watch the video before passing judgement on something you never bothered to look at for yourself. Note my comments in post 29.
You're referring to yourself in the third person now?
From my personal use the new Google Maps app is worse than Apple Maps. Plus with Google you don't have the ability to add the address you are looking at to a contact.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Actually Gatorguy suggests you watch the video before passing judgement on something you never bothered to look at for yourself. Note my comments in post 29.
Derp