Interesting Phenomenon on 10.1.5... thoughts?

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in Genius Bar edited January 2014
I just posted these notes to Apple's feedback board on OS X on a problem I experienced with 10.1.5. I just copied and pasted them here, since I see no need to type it all twice. Here is my post:



I have a PowerBook G3 (firewire/Prismo) with a 400 MHZ processor, 640 MB RAM on system 10.1.5. I have written a couple of times, already on the failure of my screen saver and energy saver settings to engage. At first I thought it to be a bug with the new system upgrade (10.1.5), period. However, I wrote, again, to say it occurred only while the most recent version of AIM was active (or, maybe, saying does not occur is more accurate). My screen saver does not come on automatically, and my screen never fades black automatically, as set in my preferences, while AIM is active. It works fine the remainder of the time. Well, tonight it worked, and I was shocked by its functionality. However after typing in my password to remove the screen saver (after moving the cursor to bring the screen back to life), I could save nothing to disk at all. It gave me an error -34 message when I tried to move, copy, or rename anything, and I could not close any program. I had to force quit them all, and then restart my Macintosh. I am sure there is some Terminal, command-line method to do it, but I found a restart works (when the unable-to-save problem happened in previous system editions, 10.1.2 [maybe 10.1.1...working from memory here] and especially 10.1.3, for certain). I thought the correlation of the settings suddenly functioning and of the inability to save to disk might give you a better idea of any problem in this version of the system, and so I am reporting it. The only real difference in my behavior on my Macintosh before these events occurred was burning a CD earlier tonight. Afterwards, I noticed the Finder would open windows with the icons moved ierratically and fonts blurred through, but by closing and reopening the window, the items displayed normally. Since I moved no other files around after opening and closing the windows, I did not notice the problem continuing, although it could have been persisting through to the loss in my ability to save any data to my hard drive. I think I have provided all the information pertient to this episode. If I notice or think of anything else, I'll be certain to send it to you.



Any thoughts / comments?

Anyone else experience anything similar?

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 17
    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    Uh...steer clear of the LSD?



    You did graduate from the sixth grade (grammatically speaking), didn't you? If I can't make heads or tails of it, I doubt Apple will either. Distinct paragraphs will help next time. Also: have a point (seriously).



    It's hard to determine exactly what your complaint is, based on what you wrote. Maybe you seek opinions in the Trouble-shooting forum?
  • Reply 2 of 17
    Donny's screen saver and energy saver had been refusing to kick in while the latest version of AIM was running. Today they magically started to work, but after he entered his password to get rid of the screensaver, he found that he couldn't move, copy or rename anything; instead the Finder spewed type -34 errors. He also couldn't close any applications. A restart set everything back to normal.



    He did notice that after burning a CD - before the other stuff happened - the Finder displayed icons in the wrong location and that labels were blurred. Reopening the affected windows fixed the problem. He didn't try to move/copy/rename any files at that time, so he doesn't know if the problem with those functions started before or after the screen saver came on.
  • Reply 3 of 17
    donnydonny Posts: 231member
    Thanks Dead Member, I appreciate you translating for those members who cannot read English. *smiles* I admit it was a bit detailed and drawn-out due to the fact that I wrote it, originally, as an analysis of a problem to the Apple technical people. Maybe I should have considered boiling it down before posting in this forum. Anyway, you nailed exactly what I was saying in the original post, and I have noticed one other thing. If I close the AIM buddy list window, it seems everything functions just fine. So one window of one program seems to effect the initiation of the energy saver and screen saver automated settings. Crazy!
  • Reply 4 of 17
    It's logical that while AIM is active the system will not go to sleep. The question is, did your computer go to sleep while you had AIM running in the previous version of OS X?
  • Reply 5 of 17
    donnydonny Posts: 231member
    True... I agree it is logical that while the Buddy List window for AIM is open the computer's screen would remain active, but yes, it was a change in behavior from all previous installations of system sofware on my computer. Only after 10.1.5, I had this change in behavior on my Macintosh.
  • Reply 6 of 17
    Donny:

    Stop trying to post as though you're some sort of ****ing intellectual and go learn to express yourself in writing instead. Once you do that, all of your problems will magically disappear.



    -DisgruntledQS733Owner
  • Reply 7 of 17
    tigerwoods99tigerwoods99 Posts: 2,633member
    I suggest other AI members take a look in this thread and tell me who the real jackasses on the board. Some of you need to seriously check yoself. Do you all have your heads up your asses so far that you fail to believe any Macs have problems? That's what it seems like when you attack people just asking for help and take the attitude of "Well you must have screwed the computer up yourself". Honestly.



    Donny-I am sorry I can't help your problem (don't have 10.1.5, wait I dont have a G4 now either) however ignore anyone who gives you sh*t here.
  • Reply 8 of 17
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    [quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:

    <strong>I suggest other AI members take a look in this thread and tell me who the real jackasses on the board. Some of you need to seriously check yoself. Do you all have your heads up your asses so far that you fail to believe any Macs have problems? That's what it seems like when you attack people just asking for help and take the attitude of "Well you must have screwed the computer up yourself". Honestly.



    Donny-I am sorry I can't help your problem (don't have 10.1.5, wait I dont have a G4 now either) however ignore anyone who gives you sh*t here.</strong><hr></blockquote>





    stop being an ******* and bringing your sad ass into other threads
  • Reply 9 of 17
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    ...in before the lock...
  • Reply 10 of 17
    donnydonny Posts: 231member
    Interesting responses... I must say real feedback seems lacking for my post. Thank-you to those of you who reassure my feelings and defend me and translate for me.... I promise the negative posts here are not bothering me. *smiles* I find it rather amusing how it reflects on them more than me, since this case is the true one. By the way, I am an intellectual, a philosopher, a computer-geek, a neuroscientist, pharmacological researcher, and professor. I enjoy my share of people, parties, shows, and all other entertainment that makes life worth living, also. Being a psychologist, I take it in and relate the comments properly. However it is not helping me to resolve the problem at hand, unfortunately. I suppose everyone is just as baffled as I am on this issue. *sighs*
  • Reply 11 of 17
    tigerwoods99tigerwoods99 Posts: 2,633member
    Who's the ******* applenut? Look how people responded to somebody just using these forums as somewhere to get help. is that we like to treat all our members?
  • Reply 12 of 17
    iq78iq78 Posts: 256member
    [quote]Originally posted by Donny:

    <strong>...By the way, I am an intellectual, a philosopher, a computer-geek, a neuroscientist, pharmacological researcher, and professor. I enjoy my share of people, parties, shows, and all other entertainment that makes life worth living, also. Being a psychologist.... </strong><hr></blockquote>



    In-other-words.... I am a nutcase, looney. Claiming to be a philosopher, neuroscientist, pharmacological researcher.... oh... must not forget... psychologist puts you in the "I have no grasp of reality" subset of humanity.
  • Reply 13 of 17
    donnydonny Posts: 231member
    *smirks* Write on topic or not at all people... I am flattered by the attention to me, but I did post a topic to discuss...
  • Reply 14 of 17
    bluejekyllbluejekyll Posts: 103member
    I'll try and ignore all the flaming going on here... <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />



    Anyway, Donny, if it happens again, you may have a disk problem. I would suggest running apple's "Disk Utility" to try and see if you have any HFS (or UFS, if like me you prefer case-sensitive fs') problems. And if that doesn't do it, Backup your data, reformat, and reinstall.



    That's what I would do.
  • Reply 15 of 17
    donnydonny Posts: 231member
    It is not a hard drive problem from what I can tell. I check, back-up, and repair my disk regularly. Besides, it is repeatable to this day. If I leave the AIM buddy list window open under 10.1.5, my screen saver will not come on and my energy saver settings will not be effective. If I close the AIM buddy list window, everything functions normally. I was hoping someone else would be experiencing this issue. My system is well maintained, and I would even call it flawless. It must be a software glitch.
  • Reply 16 of 17
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    If a restart cleared it, it might be. It might also be corrupt system preferences, which can have some alarming effects.



    If you want to be really helpful, try to isolate and reproduce the problem, post it to Apple's discussion boards, and send a thorough and precise account of what happens when to Apple (the feedback link will do).



    For what it's worth, I've never heard of this behavior.
  • Reply 17 of 17
    donnydonny Posts: 231member
    I did post feedback to Apple. Also, this behavior is repeatable, and I continue to see it everyday. Even if AIM is hidden, My energy saver settings and screen saver will not engage as long as the buddy list window is open. I have not tried deleting preferences, but I doubt this is the problem if it is only effected by one window of one program.



    Anyone else able to repeat this behavior?



    Under 10.1.5 with the most recent version of AIM beta that supports Mac.com addresses as screen names, I would like to see if anyone else sees the same behavior. It would be very interesting to me, and it could be helpful.
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