He made a claim that Samsung SOLD 10,000,000 Notes, yet Samsung NEVER divulges numbers sold, EVER.
Sure they do. Samsung gives numbers when they pass major milestones.
Mar 2012 - Samsung announces 5 million Notes sold
Aug 2012 - Samsung announces 10 million Notes sold
Nov 2012 - Samsung announces 5 milllion Note 2s sold
A few people constantly make themselves look foolish, by claiming every time such a milestone is announced, that "Oh all those units are sitting on shelves". Uh, no. Stores don't continue to buy millions of units over a year's time, if they're not selling them through to end users.
Those posters are also usually confused, and don't get that sales and shipments are the same thing in these cases. Both Apple and Samsung include sales to retailers. Apple counts sales when shipped to the retailer. Samsung counts sales when they are delivered to the retailer.
In both cases, the number given is not end user sales. That number only becomes more apparent after the next sales announcement, when a slowdown is seen or not.
Apple is improving raw hardware performance every generation as well - faster CPU, faster GPU or both. I haven't seen too many sarcastic posts from Apple followers. In fact, I've seen none.
No, they aren't sarcastic at all. On the contrary, they are very direct: Every time Apple bumps specs, naysayers come out on these forums to complain that Apple is no longer innovating. "It's looks the same all they did was speed up the processor and give it more memory and improve the camera and add image stabilization and panorama and boost the sound quality and made the screen slightly larger and thinner and lighter and improve battery life and lightning connector. But where's the innovation???"
If specs bumps ARE innovation for Samsung, why can't they be innovation for Apple? That's the point of my sarcasm.
An Android phone with a shitty skin, a massive screen, and an extremely shitty plastic case, that will neither change nor advance a single thing in the smartphone industry- which will be backed by an unprecedented multi-billion dollar marketing campaign, and whored out by every single carrier out there.
So the iphone 5 as a better casing... and thats pretty much it. Apple getting his butt kick out of the high market is not funny imo. When you charge a premium for a product, you need to lead, not lag.
IF they continu to entrenched themselves behind that 4" size is better for everyone, they are going straight to the graveyard.
So the iphone 5 as a better casing... and thats pretty much it. Apple getting his butt kick out of the high market is not funny imo. When you charge a premium for a product, you need to lead, not lag.
IF they continu to entrenched themselves behind that 4" size is better for everyone, they are going straight to the graveyard.
"butt kick"? Not according to last quarter's numbers where BOTH the iPhone 5 and the year old 4s "kicked" the SIII. With the SIII declining in sales from the previous quarter.
While octo-core processors aren't necessarily innovation, octo-core processors should "push the envelope." How ever a company "pushes the envelope" I wonder if we shouldn't be pleased. This despite my dislike and distrust of Samsung.
An octo-core processor may involve new SoC process technology (20 nm) for example.
How is the SoC designed?
How is heat managed?
How is multi-core threading accomplished?
No, they aren't sarcastic at all. On the contrary, they are very direct: Every time Apple bumps specs, naysayers come out on these forums to complain that Apple is no longer innovating. "It's looks the same all they did was speed up the processor and give it more memory and improve the camera and add image stabilization and panorama and boost the sound quality and made the screen slightly larger and thinner and lighter and improve battery life and lightning connector. But where's the innovation???"
If specs bumps ARE innovation for Samsung, why can't they be innovation for Apple? That's the point of my sarcasm.
Sure they do. Samsung gives numbers when they pass major milestones.
Mar 2012 - Samsung announces 5 million Notes sold
Aug 2012 - Samsung announces 10 million Notes sold
Nov 2012 - Samsung announces 5 milllion Note 2s sold
A few people constantly make themselves look foolish, by claiming every time such a milestone is announced, that "Oh all those units are sitting on shelves". Uh, no. Stores don't continue to buy millions of units over a year's time, if they're not selling them through to end users.
Those posters are also usually confused, and don't get that sales and shipments are the same thing in these cases. Both Apple and Samsung include sales to retailers. Apple counts sales when shipped to the retailer. Samsung counts sales when they are delivered to the retailer.
In both cases, the number given is not end user sales. That number only becomes more apparent after the next sales announcement, when a slowdown is seen or not.
IIRC some one previously noted that while Apple's unit figures are from audited financial submissions Samsung's are not, just their press releases and/or inferred from more general financial statements.
"butt kick"? Not according to last quarter's numbers where BOTH the iPhone 5 and the year old 4s "kicked" the SIII. With the SIII declining in sales from the previous quarter.
Innovation is:
Performance that rivals smartphones with twice as many cores, higher clock speed and twice as much memory in a much smaller form factor. That is almost unbelievable, in fact.
High resolution (1136-by-640-pixel resolution at 326 ppi) in-cell touch LCD displays with RGB sub pixel arrays providing 800:1 contrast ratio and 500 cd/m2 max brightness with perfect sRGB Standard color gamut.
Personally, I don't see spec jumps as major innovations. Specs always get better over time, and hardware fads come and go.
To me, innovation is now far more about the software, what it does, and how integrated an experience it is.
Smartphones haven't really changed that much since the first one in 1993. You open an app. You use it. You open a different one. Repeat. Or you look at a screen with multiple smaller apps, like a notification screen, screen with widgets, or the old WinMo "Today" screen.
Now what's slowly starting to happen, is software that's more aware of the user's habits, preferences, and anticipated needs. That's where the real future lies.
Hmm, strange post. I think smartphones are evolving, not simply by adding additional functions, sometimes through software, sometimes with the help of additional hardware, but also by simplifying things. To say that smartphones haven't evolved since 1993 is a silly thing to say. Software isn't more aware than before, it's simply being programmed in such a way. The more software being written, the more usage we get out of it. But it still relies on the programming, coming from people.
Biometrics would be a good place to get things going in the evolution part of technology. Of course, there are downsides:
IF the report is true and IF it works as intended, Samsung might actually do a little innovating with their next Galaxy handset. One of the new features being reported is called "Eye Scroll". Supposedly the smartphone will track your eye movements to determine when to scroll to the next page in a multi-page doc or webpage. There's also supposedly another not-yet-described feature called Eye Pause. FWIW some of Sammy's previous "software innovations" sounded better on paper than in practice.
In any event the source said the emphasis will on software, with the hardware improvements being somewhat insignificant.
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Originally Posted by hfts
He made a claim that Samsung SOLD 10,000,000 Notes, yet Samsung NEVER divulges numbers sold, EVER.
Sure they do. Samsung gives numbers when they pass major milestones.
Mar 2012 - Samsung announces 5 million Notes sold
Aug 2012 - Samsung announces 10 million Notes sold
Nov 2012 - Samsung announces 5 milllion Note 2s sold
A few people constantly make themselves look foolish, by claiming every time such a milestone is announced, that "Oh all those units are sitting on shelves". Uh, no. Stores don't continue to buy millions of units over a year's time, if they're not selling them through to end users.
Those posters are also usually confused, and don't get that sales and shipments are the same thing in these cases. Both Apple and Samsung include sales to retailers. Apple counts sales when shipped to the retailer. Samsung counts sales when they are delivered to the retailer.
In both cases, the number given is not end user sales. That number only becomes more apparent after the next sales announcement, when a slowdown is seen or not.
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Originally Posted by nikon133
This is not really fair, IMHO.
Apple is improving raw hardware performance every generation as well - faster CPU, faster GPU or both. I haven't seen too many sarcastic posts from Apple followers. In fact, I've seen none.
No, they aren't sarcastic at all. On the contrary, they are very direct: Every time Apple bumps specs, naysayers come out on these forums to complain that Apple is no longer innovating. "It's looks the same all they did was speed up the processor and give it more memory and improve the camera and add image stabilization and panorama and boost the sound quality and made the screen slightly larger and thinner and lighter and improve battery life and lightning connector. But where's the innovation???"
If specs bumps ARE innovation for Samsung, why can't they be innovation for Apple? That's the point of my sarcasm.
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Originally Posted by Slurpy
My prediction:
An Android phone with a shitty skin, a massive screen, and an extremely shitty plastic case, that will neither change nor advance a single thing in the smartphone industry- which will be backed by an unprecedented multi-billion dollar marketing campaign, and whored out by every single carrier out there.
So the iphone 5 as a better casing... and thats pretty much it. Apple getting his butt kick out of the high market is not funny imo. When you charge a premium for a product, you need to lead, not lag.
IF they continu to entrenched themselves behind that 4" size is better for everyone, they are going straight to the graveyard.
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Originally Posted by herbapou
So the iphone 5 as a better casing... and thats pretty much it. Apple getting his butt kick out of the high market is not funny imo. When you charge a premium for a product, you need to lead, not lag.
IF they continu to entrenched themselves behind that 4" size is better for everyone, they are going straight to the graveyard.
"butt kick"? Not according to last quarter's numbers where BOTH the iPhone 5 and the year old 4s "kicked" the SIII. With the SIII declining in sales from the previous quarter.
While octo-core processors aren't necessarily innovation, octo-core processors should "push the envelope." How ever a company "pushes the envelope" I wonder if we shouldn't be pleased. This despite my dislike and distrust of Samsung.
An octo-core processor may involve new SoC process technology (20 nm) for example.
How is the SoC designed?
How is heat managed?
How is multi-core threading accomplished?
Now this is absolutely correct.
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Originally Posted by KDarling
Sure they do. Samsung gives numbers when they pass major milestones.
Mar 2012 - Samsung announces 5 million Notes sold
Aug 2012 - Samsung announces 10 million Notes sold
Nov 2012 - Samsung announces 5 milllion Note 2s sold
A few people constantly make themselves look foolish, by claiming every time such a milestone is announced, that "Oh all those units are sitting on shelves". Uh, no. Stores don't continue to buy millions of units over a year's time, if they're not selling them through to end users.
Those posters are also usually confused, and don't get that sales and shipments are the same thing in these cases. Both Apple and Samsung include sales to retailers. Apple counts sales when shipped to the retailer. Samsung counts sales when they are delivered to the retailer.
In both cases, the number given is not end user sales. That number only becomes more apparent after the next sales announcement, when a slowdown is seen or not.
IIRC some one previously noted that while Apple's unit figures are from audited financial submissions Samsung's are not, just their press releases and/or inferred from more general financial statements.
Innovation is:
Performance that rivals smartphones with twice as many cores, higher clock speed and twice as much memory in a much smaller form factor. That is almost unbelievable, in fact.
High resolution (1136-by-640-pixel resolution at 326 ppi) in-cell touch LCD displays with RGB sub pixel arrays providing 800:1 contrast ratio and 500 cd/m2 max brightness with perfect sRGB Standard color gamut.
Personally, I don't see spec jumps as major innovations. Specs always get better over time, and hardware fads come and go.
To me, innovation is now far more about the software, what it does, and how integrated an experience it is.
Smartphones haven't really changed that much since the first one in 1993. You open an app. You use it. You open a different one. Repeat. Or you look at a screen with multiple smaller apps, like a notification screen, screen with widgets, or the old WinMo "Today" screen.
Now what's slowly starting to happen, is software that's more aware of the user's habits, preferences, and anticipated needs. That's where the real future lies.
Biometrics would be a good place to get things going in the evolution part of technology. Of course, there are downsides:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4396831.stm
IF the report is true and IF it works as intended, Samsung might actually do a little innovating with their next Galaxy handset. One of the new features being reported is called "Eye Scroll". Supposedly the smartphone will track your eye movements to determine when to scroll to the next page in a multi-page doc or webpage. There's also supposedly another not-yet-described feature called Eye Pause. FWIW some of Sammy's previous "software innovations" sounded better on paper than in practice.
In any event the source said the emphasis will on software, with the hardware improvements being somewhat insignificant.
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/04/samsungs-new-smartphone-will-track-eyes-to-scroll-pages/?smid=tw-nytimes
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