Now my beige G3 just died......

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in Genius Bar edited January 2014
Hi guys,

Well, what a week it's been at my house. After taking I.E. 5.2 off my beige mac and replacing it with 5.1 I quit getting those nasty kernal panics.......good. And after installing that new 512 stick of ram in my wife's iMac, it is STILL freezing up on me.... so it's going into the shop.......o.k. But not quite yet, because....

Last night, my beige g3 died....... now when you push the power button, it starts up enough to power the drives, but the system won't actually boot. So I'd assume I need a new power supply? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

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  • Reply 1 of 10
    [quote]Originally posted by fishboi:

    <strong>Hi guys,

    Well, what a week it's been at my house. After taking I.E. 5.2 off my beige mac and replacing it with 5.1 I quit getting those nasty kernal panics.......good. And after installing that new 512 stick of ram in my wife's iMac, it is STILL freezing up on me.... so it's going into the shop.......o.k. But not quite yet, because....

    Last night, my beige g3 died....... now when you push the power button, it starts up enough to power the drives, but the system won't actually boot. So I'd assume I need a new power supply? :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Wow. Tough times for you. Here's my recommendation...take any machine acting funny to the shop for assessment/repair. While they are there, go out and by a good UPS (with Telco/Ethernet Surge protection) for every computer (except laptops) and buy laptops a good surge protector, also with Telco/Ethernet Surge protection. Get these set up and ready to go for your machines...because something is screwy with the wiring in your house. Too crazy that you'd have all these hardware problems at once. Keeping UPSes on the machines ensures a constant stream of power that is conditioned, which the laptop battery will do, if you have it properly protected.



    Sure, it's not cheap, but if the wiring in your house is hosed, it's the best way to protect your investments.
  • Reply 2 of 10
    alcimedesalcimedes Posts: 5,486member
    yeah, i was going to suggest the same thing. something is wrong with the juice your machines are getting if you've had that many hardware problems.



    plus messy power can ruin hardware, worth spending the $100 for a decent UPS.



    -alcimedes
  • Reply 3 of 10
    fishboifishboi Posts: 22member
    ok guys, that's what we'll do........ thanks for your input!



    BTW this site is so much better than apple's own support section



    Todd





    [quote]Originally posted by alcimedes:

    <strong>yeah, i was going to suggest the same thing. something is wrong with the juice your machines are getting if you've had that many hardware problems.



    plus messy power can ruin hardware, worth spending the $100 for a decent UPS.



    -alcimedes</strong><hr></blockquote>
  • Reply 4 of 10
    defiantdefiant Posts: 4,876member
    [quote]Originally posted by fishboi:

    <strong>ok guys, that's what we'll do........ thanks for your input!



    BTW this site is so much better than apple's own support section



    Todd

    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Thanks !

    (uhm, I didn't sad anything in this thread... <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" /> )

    ups...
  • Reply 5 of 10
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    [quote]Originally posted by The All Knowing 1:

    <strong>



    Wow. Tough times for you. Here's my recommendation...take any machine acting funny to the shop for assessment/repair. While they are there, go out and by a good UPS (with Telco/Ethernet Surge protection) for every computer (except laptops) and buy laptops a good surge protector, also with Telco/Ethernet Surge protection. Get these set up and ready to go for your machines...because something is screwy with the wiring in your house. Too crazy that you'd have all these hardware problems at once. Keeping UPSes on the machines ensures a constant stream of power that is conditioned, which the laptop battery will do, if you have it properly protected.



    Sure, it's not cheap, but if the wiring in your house is hosed, it's the best way to protect your investments.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Yes, and i will add that you have to make some maintenance of the UPS , every six months minimally , let's discharge the battery of your UPS totaly. One of my friend who was an expert in this subject , said that you should do this once a week but perhaps he go to far
  • Reply 6 of 10
    fishboifishboi Posts: 22member
    guess what?

    the bios battery was dead! i went all over town looking for a replacement, but couldn't locate one. came home and looked up the specs again....turns out my original mac (7100/66) uses the same battery, so swapped them out and it's running again! YES! of course, i quickly got a kernal panic, but that's for another day
  • Reply 7 of 10
    alcimedesalcimedes Posts: 5,486member
    that's odd. i've worked with half a dozen machines over the years that had dead internal batteries but none of then would ever stop working. all of them just lost things like date/time and network settings.



    i still think there's something bigger than that lurking in the background that's causing all of these problems, and my first guess would still be the power in your house.



    <a href="http://www.belkin.com"; target="_blank">www.belkin.com</a> has some good cross-platform solutions.
  • Reply 8 of 10
    fishboifishboi Posts: 22member
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  • Reply 9 of 10
    chychchych Posts: 860member
    Hm I've had situations like that with the Beige G3...



    Try pressing the CUDA switch and see if anything happens (it is on the corner of the motherboard next to the pci slots). Also, I've gotten this problem when my scsi IDs or IDE stuff is incorrect; try unplugging all but the hard drive and see if some component is acting up. Also try unplugging the power cord from the psu and waiting several hours...



    [ 07-21-2002: Message edited by: chych ]</p>
  • Reply 10 of 10
    fishboifishboi Posts: 22member
    doh! hit the wrong tab :o



    anyway, my happiness was short lived....... got kernal panics twice while running I.E.5.1, had to restart....switched over to omniweb. then had it freeze in iphoto......restart........had it freeze again.......restart. then it froze when i plugged in my firewire 60 gig ext hd. and now once again, it won't boot. i tried to get a new power supply off of ebay over the weekend, but was sniped at the last second.....



    about the battery:

    about 8 years ago, my best friend took their mac in to the shop because it wouldn't boot up. turned out that the lithium battery had gone dead......... i had forgotten all about that until this morning. looked up the specs at apple's website, and lucked out since we've got a 7100 which uses the same battery. i am still going to get a new battery next, and then look into a new power supply. maybe even try to get another beige g3....... mine has got 768 megs, 2x40 gig hd's and a g4/500 upgrade....hate to just give up on it!
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