I bought the Reeder app for iPhone and iPad, but was surprised that the app relies on 3rd party solutions, like Google Reader. Therefore never used it, but the app supposedly is a good one. Oh well, I check AI on a daily basis anyway. GR, who needs it?
This is what happens when you trust a glorified AD COMPANY to provide a consistent and reliable User Experience.
Google isn't built around pleasing the user. They are built around SELLING THE USER.
Be warned.
Comment by 'commie pinkofag' on another blog....
"The ethics of "free" are dubious at best. Google is at its core a pimp and its users are its whores. It gives us spandex miniskirts, drug store makeup, and the occasionally black eye, and in return, we give it everything."
It's not Google's fault of course that 3rd parties are too lazy to use the RSS feeds directly but it sucks when the plug is pulled on stuff that works. Hopefully 3rd party readers will just implement RSS properly.
I think this is being soft on Google. It'll always be more efficient for an RSS reader to sync with a single server source, and Google killed the business of any independents by offering theirs for free. And only later, after they've destroyed businesses, do they start thinking about their own monetisation, rather than bankrolling from a separate search business. Their model of providing services is destructive and in these instances only serve consumers in the short term.
Many (maybe most) consumers of RSS want the kind of sync services that a single aggregator provides, and probably also appeciate the flexibility of easily migrating data to a different client, so saying that 3rd party readers aren't being "lazy"doing it "properly" is misapportioning blame.
It's always a bad business plan to rely on something another company gives away for free.
Glad that they have a plan B.
Bummer about Snapseed on Mac, but since it doesn't show Google ads, it's not worth their while to keep investing in it. Makes sense business wise.
These moves re-enforce the idea that Google only offers products that data mine in order to sell more ads.
Rant:
To paraphrase someone wiser than myself and I forget who originally said it, in reference to Facebook and Google.
It's sad/disturbing that some of the most brilliant minds of our generation are focused on finding ways to make us look at more ads.
My own:
Rather than looking to cure cancer, AIDS, etc... It pays more to work for data mining advertising companies.
These are the values off our society? Depressing
Yes it is depressing.
But that is what happens when accountants, MBA, bean counters, advertising execs and lawyers run amok in our society.
Scientists, the ones that actually make the discoveries, are marginlised.
Take IT, many, many years ago I had this misconception that IT stood for logic, hence my career change from Chemistry to programming. Initially I was happy, but as time went on I soon became aware that those in control did not want high quality software, they wanted it quick and cheap.
Forget about thinking head, the distance they could think ahead would be measured in nanometers.
To me google is everything that is wrong with technology, how can an advertising company be good at IT?
They simply buy companies, even their search is not their own.
It's just so sad, and what is more annoying is the ignorant, and the liars that support this glorified ad company.
With my web master hat on, I've lost track of all the things from dear old Google I have invested a lot of time and money in learning and using only for them to be discontinued. With the exception of YouTube and Maps I have given up with them and that is nothing to do with my feelings regarding Android. You simply can't trust the Beta Kings to finish anything and stick with it.
With my web master hat on, I've lost track of all the things from dear old Google I have invested a lot of time and money in learning and using only for them to be discontinued. With the exception of YouTube and Maps I have given up with them and that is nothing to do with my feelings regarding Android. You simply can't trust the Beta Kings to finish anything and stick with it.
You've got a point. Google has swept a lot of cobwebs since they announced their "spring cleaning" in 2011. Apparently as many as 70 services according to Network World.
No doubt a lot of them had been replaced with newer options while others had simply outlived their usefulness. At the same time there's likely a few in there that had value and made your job easier, making it a pain in the *#% to find substitutes for them.
It's a shame that Google doesn't see much value in "loss leader" products (low-cost or free items that get people in the door). Is everything supposed to be social now? I dread the day they force-tie everything into G+.
monstrosity
I have never used Google Reader, but is it something Yahoo Pipes could replace for you?
Go from a proverbial sinking ship to one that's been decaying on the ocean floor? Pass.
IMO, Yahoo! is the AOL of portals, the swampland of online ecosystems, and of course, the Flickr killer.
I am surprised that Google has not been able to turn Reader into a moneymaker, because it really is a great service. Most folks will be frustrated by the death of Reader because there aren't any comparable alternatives. Sure, there are other feed compilers, but Reader is the best out there, especially for the price (free).
Hopefully this clears the way for others to step up and create something just as good...and preferably free. FWIW, I wouldn't mind ads, if it meant that I got a great service for free.
On the advice of a friend, I moved to Feedly. It's currently based on the Google Reader API, but they say they will be ready to go by July 1st with a seamless transition to different API. So far, it looks great on my Google Chrome and iPhone. Also works on Firefox, Safari, and Android. http://blog.feedly.com/2013/03/14/google-reader/
Comments
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadra 610
This is what happens when you trust a glorified AD COMPANY to provide a consistent and reliable User Experience.
Google isn't built around pleasing the user. They are built around SELLING THE USER.
Be warned.
Comment by 'commie pinkofag' on another blog....
"The ethics of "free" are dubious at best. Google is at its core a pimp and its users are its whores. It gives us spandex miniskirts, drug store makeup, and the occasionally black eye, and in return, we give it everything."
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin
It's not Google's fault of course that 3rd parties are too lazy to use the RSS feeds directly but it sucks when the plug is pulled on stuff that works. Hopefully 3rd party readers will just implement RSS properly.
I think this is being soft on Google. It'll always be more efficient for an RSS reader to sync with a single server source, and Google killed the business of any independents by offering theirs for free. And only later, after they've destroyed businesses, do they start thinking about their own monetisation, rather than bankrolling from a separate search business. Their model of providing services is destructive and in these instances only serve consumers in the short term.
Many (maybe most) consumers of RSS want the kind of sync services that a single aggregator provides, and probably also appeciate the flexibility of easily migrating data to a different client, so saying that 3rd party readers aren't being "lazy"doing it "properly" is misapportioning blame.
Yes it is depressing.
But that is what happens when accountants, MBA, bean counters, advertising execs and lawyers run amok in our society.
Scientists, the ones that actually make the discoveries, are marginlised.
Take IT, many, many years ago I had this misconception that IT stood for logic, hence my career change from Chemistry to programming. Initially I was happy, but as time went on I soon became aware that those in control did not want high quality software, they wanted it quick and cheap.
Forget about thinking head, the distance they could think ahead would be measured in nanometers.
To me google is everything that is wrong with technology, how can an advertising company be good at IT?
They simply buy companies, even their search is not their own.
It's just so sad, and what is more annoying is the ignorant, and the liars that support this glorified ad company.
http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.edit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spacepower
Rant:
To paraphrase someone wiser than myself and I forget who originally said it, in reference to Facebook and Google.
It's sad/disturbing that some of the most brilliant minds of our generation are focused on finding ways to make us look at more ads.
My own:
Rather than looking to cure cancer, AIDS, etc... It pays more to work for data mining advertising companies.
These are the values off our society? Depressing
Since you mentioned searching for a cancer cure, both Google and Facebook have been put to use:
http://gigaom.com/2013/03/01/can-a-mobile-game-help-find-the-cure-for-cancer-amazon-google-and-facebook-hope-so/
As for killing off reader at least Google has made it easy to move your current RSS feeds to a new service.
https://accounts.google.com/ServiceLogin?
There's a pretty good list of options here:
http://www.teknobites.com/2013/03/14/google-reader-alternatives/
Quote:
Originally Posted by digitalclips
With my web master hat on, I've lost track of all the things from dear old Google I have invested a lot of time and money in learning and using only for them to be discontinued. With the exception of YouTube and Maps I have given up with them and that is nothing to do with my feelings regarding Android. You simply can't trust the Beta Kings to finish anything and stick with it.
You've got a point. Google has swept a lot of cobwebs since they announced their "spring cleaning" in 2011. Apparently as many as 70 services according to Network World.
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2013/031413-google-reader-axed-along-with-267694.html?source=NWWNLE_nlt_daily_am_2013-03-14
No doubt a lot of them had been replaced with newer options while others had simply outlived their usefulness. At the same time there's likely a few in there that had value and made your job easier, making it a pain in the *#% to find substitutes for them.
It's a shame that Google doesn't see much value in "loss leader" products (low-cost or free items that get people in the door). Is everything supposed to be social now? I dread the day they force-tie everything into G+.
monstrosity
I have never used Google Reader, but is it something Yahoo Pipes could replace for you?
Go from a proverbial sinking ship to one that's been decaying on the ocean floor? Pass.
IMO, Yahoo! is the AOL of portals, the swampland of online ecosystems, and of course, the Flickr killer.
I am surprised that Google has not been able to turn Reader into a moneymaker, because it really is a great service. Most folks will be frustrated by the death of Reader because there aren't any comparable alternatives. Sure, there are other feed compilers, but Reader is the best out there, especially for the price (free).
Hopefully this clears the way for others to step up and create something just as good...and preferably free. FWIW, I wouldn't mind ads, if it meant that I got a great service for free.
On the advice of a friend, I moved to Feedly. It's currently based on the Google Reader API, but they say they will be ready to go by July 1st with a seamless transition to different API. So far, it looks great on my Google Chrome and iPhone. Also works on Firefox, Safari, and Android. http://blog.feedly.com/2013/03/14/google-reader/