The people that matter the most are the millions of potential customers that will never be aware that there was a god awful presentation. The vast majority of those people don't visit tech blogs.
Samsung spanked itself on Broadway, and I mean that literally and metaphorically (you know which metaphor I am talking about).
Even if the new S4 was capable of blowing away the competition (which it wasn't), the presentation hit all the wrong notes. It was brief where it should have lingered, and it lingered where it should have skipped. Choosing style over substance and adding unmistakably misogynistic overtones just made the whole show one of those "I can't believe they did that" spectacles. If, indeed, Apple outsells Samsung significantly this year and next, we can remember 2013 as the year in which Samsung jumped the shark; on Broadway, no less.
Did a significant number of people even experience the lauch presentation ??? I doubt it. Samsung will focus its advertising dollars and I doubt that the launch event will have any effect at all.
I don't know what the advantages TO larger screen are; The large screen IS it's own advantage (i.e., everything's bigger)
There are, on the other hand, distinct disadvantages to the larger screen.
First and foremost is the problem (and for some people the complete inability) of using the device with a single hand. In my opinion this ability is a paramount feature for a pocket computer / phone. If it "requires" two hands to fully operate, then please give me voice service on an iPad Mini. That would be lovely.
Beyond easy one handed operation, I guess there's weight; battery; pocketability... I don't know, anything else?
3) If you want to see a full report that includes up to three more words just send me $499 to get the full analysis as a zipped PDF.
Damn, TWO words from you are worth the $499, you're sweetening the deal with three??!! This is like a Billy Mays infomercial. Do you take credit cards?
I think you're underplaying the event a bit.
This certainly was no "Apple Event". But Samsung spent untold monies producing and marketing this thing. Invitations flowed, and the event was covered by every news and tech (and "tech news") outlet out there.
This wasn't Marvel announcing some new chip.
Maybe, but I just don't see that being even a mediocre draw. Outside of this forum I haven't discussed anything about the Samsung even with people I know (including the S IV announcement), yet when there is another Apple event parts will be played on news channels that even my most beloved yet techtarded friends and family members will something to say about it.
Now Samsung's ads, on the other hand, I think are effective and I have talked about those with friends and family members. Those may attack Apple but they really are saying this is the Android device you need to buy if you don't want something from the fruit company. That strategy appears to have worked wonders if we can put any faith in marketing and looking at how they dominate the Android-based device market.
Can't we just for once revel in a positive prediction about Apple? Please? Pretty please? Or is that too much to ask?
Apple in #1 by a pretty large margin. So revel all you want, Apple is not in any danger especially since 'Unsure/Don't know' has a bigger market share than Samsung.
It will be hard for any phone to be a game changer now, unless it is no longer a phone.
They said the same thing about laptops - until Apple introduced the MacBook Air. After that, everyone was so busy trying to copy it that they couldn't spare the time to say 'game changer'.
After this moronic presentation and the useless bag of features their new phone has I doubt samsung would built the same type of anticipation for their next phone.
They said the same thing about laptops - until Apple introduced the MacBook Air. After that, everyone was so busy trying to copy it that they couldn't spare the time to say 'game changer'.
There are certainly several years worth of evolutionary improvements forthcoming:
802.11ac
802.11ad
LTE Advanced
VoLTE
20 nm process technology
14 nm process technology
Wireless Payments
Porting Core technologies to iOS (AirDrop for iOS?, Automator for iOS? Finder for iOS?, Gatekeeper for iOS?, Mission Control for iOS?)
Improvements to iCloud
Improvements to Maps
Improvements to Passbook
Improvements to Siri
I can understand the sentiment that there are no revolutionary improvements remaining in the smartphone arena. Watching the Samsung Unpacked 2013 presentation left me with the impression that Samsung didn't have any "big ideas" despite the deluge of hype.
That launch was a bit of an mess. An awkward mess, to be specific. I don't know who planned out that live event, but they need to be fired.
I like some of the new software features introduced with the S4, but I'm not in love with the hardware. I was hoping they'd go the aluminum route this time like Apple and HTC, but for some reason they are just dead set on that cheap plastic nonsense.
Speaking of the HTC One, what a beautiful phone hampered by a horrible camera. I don't know what the designers were thinking, but 4MP in this day age, "Super Pixels" or not, just doesn't cut it. While the photos are passable for Facebook, and the lowlight performance is improved, the video performance is horrible for 4 years ago, let alone today. I considered getting one until I saw sample photos and video. Pass. Huge pass.
I don't like seeing stories like this, frankly, because an Apple that doesn't HAVE to innovate, WON'T innovate. I know bashing the competition is a favorite sport among many commenters here, but my feelings are competition in this space is a good thing, and keeps Apple cranking out products that not only wow, but dominate the market. I say this both as a user of their products, and as a share holder.
Did a significant number of people even experience the lauch presentation ??? I doubt it. Samsung will focus its advertising dollars and I doubt that the launch event will have any effect at all.
The whole point of the event was for large numbers of people to experience it. This particular focus of advertising dollars seems to have failed. Their launch event having no effect at all, is a very negative effect.
Did a significant number of people even experience the lauch presentation ??? I doubt it.
Even though I read the article here, I didn't watch the presentation, perhaps because I don't have Flash installed - if that was a requirement. I just find it easier to read a spec sheet for these types of products and can do without the marketing bit.
And in the entire world... Samsung is #1 and Apple #2 in sales.
That's basically because of China + India. Samsung has gained market share (not profit share) selling cheap, low-profit stuff in these two highly price-conscious markets.
With Apple's moves (already afoot) in India, and when (not if) China Mobile pans out, this will change dramatically. (Samsung may still end up being #1 in market share in those two countries, but their profits will take a pummeling since they'll be relegated to scraping the bottom of the barrel).
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The people that matter the most are the millions of potential customers that will never be aware that there was a god awful presentation. The vast majority of those people don't visit tech blogs.
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Originally Posted by stelligent
Samsung spanked itself on Broadway, and I mean that literally and metaphorically (you know which metaphor I am talking about).
Even if the new S4 was capable of blowing away the competition (which it wasn't), the presentation hit all the wrong notes. It was brief where it should have lingered, and it lingered where it should have skipped. Choosing style over substance and adding unmistakably misogynistic overtones just made the whole show one of those "I can't believe they did that" spectacles. If, indeed, Apple outsells Samsung significantly this year and next, we can remember 2013 as the year in which Samsung jumped the shark; on Broadway, no less.
Did a significant number of people even experience the lauch presentation ??? I doubt it. Samsung will focus its advertising dollars and I doubt that the launch event will have any effect at all.
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Originally Posted by stelligent
And there are advantages to the larger screen,..
I don't know what the advantages TO larger screen are; The large screen IS it's own advantage (i.e., everything's bigger)
There are, on the other hand, distinct disadvantages to the larger screen.
First and foremost is the problem (and for some people the complete inability) of using the device with a single hand. In my opinion this ability is a paramount feature for a pocket computer / phone. If it "requires" two hands to fully operate, then please give me voice service on an iPad Mini. That would be lovely.
Beyond easy one handed operation, I guess there's weight; battery; pocketability... I don't know, anything else?
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Originally Posted by Apple v. Samsung
I don't see apple gaining on Samsung. Nokia and HTC I see as being possible but not Samsung
Can't we just for once revel in a positive prediction about Apple? Please? Pretty please? Or is that too much to ask?
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
3) If you want to see a full report that includes up to three more words just send me $499 to get the full analysis as a zipped PDF.
Damn, TWO words from you are worth the $499, you're sweetening the deal with three??!! This is like a Billy Mays infomercial. Do you take credit cards?
Maybe, but I just don't see that being even a mediocre draw. Outside of this forum I haven't discussed anything about the Samsung even with people I know (including the S IV announcement), yet when there is another Apple event parts will be played on news channels that even my most beloved yet techtarded friends and family members will something to say about it.
Now Samsung's ads, on the other hand, I think are effective and I have talked about those with friends and family members. Those may attack Apple but they really are saying this is the Android device you need to buy if you don't want something from the fruit company. That strategy appears to have worked wonders if we can put any faith in marketing and looking at how they dominate the Android-based device market.
Apple in #1 by a pretty large margin. So revel all you want, Apple is not in any danger especially since 'Unsure/Don't know' has a bigger market share than Samsung.
They said the same thing about laptops - until Apple introduced the MacBook Air. After that, everyone was so busy trying to copy it that they couldn't spare the time to say 'game changer'.
There are certainly several years worth of evolutionary improvements forthcoming:
802.11ac
802.11ad
LTE Advanced
VoLTE
20 nm process technology
14 nm process technology
Wireless Payments
Porting Core technologies to iOS (AirDrop for iOS?, Automator for iOS? Finder for iOS?, Gatekeeper for iOS?, Mission Control for iOS?)
Improvements to iCloud
Improvements to Maps
Improvements to Passbook
Improvements to Siri
I can understand the sentiment that there are no revolutionary improvements remaining in the smartphone arena. Watching the Samsung Unpacked 2013 presentation left me with the impression that Samsung didn't have any "big ideas" despite the deluge of hype.
That launch was a bit of an mess. An awkward mess, to be specific. I don't know who planned out that live event, but they need to be fired.
I like some of the new software features introduced with the S4, but I'm not in love with the hardware. I was hoping they'd go the aluminum route this time like Apple and HTC, but for some reason they are just dead set on that cheap plastic nonsense.
Speaking of the HTC One, what a beautiful phone hampered by a horrible camera. I don't know what the designers were thinking, but 4MP in this day age, "Super Pixels" or not, just doesn't cut it. While the photos are passable for Facebook, and the lowlight performance is improved, the video performance is horrible for 4 years ago, let alone today. I considered getting one until I saw sample photos and video. Pass. Huge pass.
I don't like seeing stories like this, frankly, because an Apple that doesn't HAVE to innovate, WON'T innovate. I know bashing the competition is a favorite sport among many commenters here, but my feelings are competition in this space is a good thing, and keeps Apple cranking out products that not only wow, but dominate the market. I say this both as a user of their products, and as a share holder.
Even though I read the article here, I didn't watch the presentation, perhaps because I don't have Flash installed - if that was a requirement. I just find it easier to read a spec sheet for these types of products and can do without the marketing bit.
On AndroidCentral.com they ran a poll: HTC or Samsung:
Aww, poor little Samsung.
And in the entire world... Samsung is #1 and Apple #2 in sales.
It's clear both those companies are doing something right... making billions of dollars... and will be around for a long time.
So... what about the rest of the industry? Aren't those [I]other[/I] companies the ones we should be worried about?
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Originally Posted by Michael Scrip
And in the entire world... Samsung is #1 and Apple #2 in sales.
That's basically because of China + India. Samsung has gained market share (not profit share) selling cheap, low-profit stuff in these two highly price-conscious markets.
With Apple's moves (already afoot) in India, and when (not if) China Mobile pans out, this will change dramatically. (Samsung may still end up being #1 in market share in those two countries, but their profits will take a pummeling since they'll be relegated to scraping the bottom of the barrel).
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Originally Posted by Apple v. Samsung
I don't see apple gaining on Samsung. Nokia and HTC I see as being possible but not Samsung
Did you even read the article?
Originally Posted by Apple v. Samsung
I don't see apple gaining on Samsung. Nokia and HTC I see as being possible but not Samsung
That's nice. I totally couldn't have seen that coming¡