Thanks. Hm. I'm surprised. I thought all phones/services that support data would implicitly support VoIP so at least for those this could be established right away. But maybe that causes too many issues while there are this those out there that require current tech.
Sure, you can have VoIP on your device. Just install Skype, Google Talk or some other app that supports it, but that's not the carrier's VoIP as a replacement to their current voice channel to your device.
That says 20 carriers and I think the iPhone 5 launched in a record number of countries the same day. No idea which ones they are but I would love for it to be standard in the US. Maybe I'd use it as a phone more if they did.
That says 20 carriers and I think the iPhone 5 launched in a record number of countries the same day. No idea which ones they are but I would love for it to be standard in the US. Maybe I'd use it as a phone more if they did.
Indeed, if more people did. Over here there's only 1 telco supporting it, and I have yet to make an iPhone5 to iPhone5 call to hear the difference. It is, however, the largest carrier.
Indeed, if more people did. Over here there's only 1 telco supporting it, and I have yet to make an iPhone5 to iPhone5 call to hear the difference. It is, however, the largest carrier.
Why do you need to use iPhone to iPhone? Has Apple inplemented their own version of this standard, or are you unarware that there are numerous other phones that support "HD voice"?
, but don't make the mistake of thinking it's the same effort as pulling up a website or checking your email.
I didn't say it is. But given that I can do real time video calls over a cell data connection with fairly decent quality I'm not sure it's as hard as you paint to set up
I didn't say it is. But given that I can do real time video calls over a cell data connection with fairly decent quality I'm not sure it's as hard as you paint to set up
I didn't even get into the details of how this all works. It's anything but easy. What you see with video calls are all the same protocols being employed on voice networks. Apple was more detailed than I was in this thread when they described FaceTime's protocols. Don't you recall Steve Jobs saying they aren't releasing FaceTime over the cellular networks until the carriers get their end worked out to support real-time traffic over IP?
Why do you need to use iPhone to iPhone? Has Apple inplemented their own version of this standard, or are you unarware that there are numerous other phones that support "HD voice"?
That's true; no need for an iPhone 5. Even back in 2011 it was supported by 32 mobile networks with 52 mobile phones in the market:
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Sure, you can have VoIP on your device. Just install Skype, Google Talk or some other app that supports it, but that's not the carrier's VoIP as a replacement to their current voice channel to your device.
That says 20 carriers and I think the iPhone 5 launched in a record number of countries the same day. No idea which ones they are but I would love for it to be standard in the US. Maybe I'd use it as a phone more if they did.
Indeed, if more people did. Over here there's only 1 telco supporting it, and I have yet to make an iPhone5 to iPhone5 call to hear the difference. It is, however, the largest carrier.
Why do you need to use iPhone to iPhone? Has Apple inplemented their own version of this standard, or are you unarware that there are numerous other phones that support "HD voice"?
I didn't say it is. But given that I can do real time video calls over a cell data connection with fairly decent quality I'm not sure it's as hard as you paint to set up
I didn't even get into the details of how this all works. It's anything but easy. What you see with video calls are all the same protocols being employed on voice networks. Apple was more detailed than I was in this thread when they described FaceTime's protocols. Don't you recall Steve Jobs saying they aren't releasing FaceTime over the cellular networks until the carriers get their end worked out to support real-time traffic over IP?
That's true; no need for an iPhone 5. Even back in 2011 it was supported by 32 mobile networks with 52 mobile phones in the market:
http://www.rcrwireless.com/blog/20111004/carriers/hd-voice-services-now-supported-on-32-mobile-networks-with-52-mobile-phones-in-the-market/
and:
http://hdvoicenews.com