Duality killed Aqua?

in Genius Bar edited January 2014
I've been using Duality for a while and recently upgraded to v.3. The Aqua theme is listed in the window of available themes, but switching back to it doesn't do anything. :confused: Previously I was able to switch back to Aqua with no problem, but now it seems to be missing from the Themes folder where it should be.

Any ideas?


  • Reply 1 of 6
    defiantdefiant Posts: 4,876member
    that happens when you play with the system...

    <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

    now you pay for it !

    I don't really know how to solve it, maybe you could ask Brad.
  • Reply 2 of 6
    mlnjrmlnjr Posts: 230member
    [quote]Originally posted by Defiant:

    <strong>that happens when you play with the system... now you pay for it !</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Thanks, Defiant. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> Berating me for doing something that shouldn't have removed Aqua from the OS in the first place was helpful.
  • Reply 3 of 6
    Defiant has a good point.

    The FIRST thing I tell people who have problems "theming" their systems is that any problems are their own fault.


    Well, think about it. You are downloading hacked/modified files from people you don't know, forcibly deleting key files from your System folder, and replacing them with these hacked ones. And you honestly expect there will never be any trouble?

    I make an effort to clearly explain to anyone who asks me about themes that the end user should always understand *exactly* what is going on behind the scenes. A lot of people, unfortunately, think that programs like Duality are similar to Kaleidoscope of the old Classic system -- that they run "on top" of the original system's interface. That is wrong. Duality (and similar programs) actually use a brute-force method of replacing several extremely important files in the System. If there are even minor problems with a "theme" you install, your system can become completely unusable to the point that you could only access it through the command line.

    Sound bad? There's more to it.

    Some people provide their "themes" in the .pkg "package" format. Most of these fools don't bother to remove their own .DS_Store files when making their packages; so, they get installed in your system to. What does that mean? Well, this is a minor issue, but can be annoying in that it will cause the Finder to "forget" things like window sizes, icon placement, view settings, and the like.

    So, back to your original question. How can you fix it?

    I suggest downloading Pacifist. Use it to open the "Essentials.pkg" file on your Mac OS X Install CD. Then extract the following folders from it into your system:




    And then extract each of the 10.1.x updaters over top of that. Yeah, it's a lot of trouble, but it's the only way to be sure your System has returned to its original state.

    [ 08-11-2002: Message edited by: Brad ]</p>
  • Reply 4 of 6
    mlnjrmlnjr Posts: 230member
    Thanks, Brad. I'll consider doing what you suggest, but I may instead wait a couple weeks and install Jaguar to fix the problem that way.
  • Reply 5 of 6
    defiantdefiant Posts: 4,876member
    [quote]Originally posted by mlnjr:


    Thanks, Defiant. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> Berating me for doing something that shouldn't have removed Aqua from the OS in the first place was helpful.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    really ?
  • Reply 6 of 6
    I feel I should stick my nose in here;

    While I obviously do not know as much about the subtitles of the OSx system as Brad, I do still think that novices should. It is mentioned that one should not play with their system unless they know exactly what they are doing, or that you get what you deserve if you play with your system.

    But be honest, did we all know exactly what we were doing when we started? Even now, I make a choice with every 'non-legit' program or utility I install or frig with, as to whether or not it is worth me re-installing. As long as one is willing to wipe the board once in awhile, or at least delete a lot of programs, then I see no reason why one should not place the occasional hacked files within their system.

    Now, admittedly, I come from a primarily PC background, where this tends to be closer to the norm... but over the last 3 years with Apple, I have toyed here and there.

    I suppose I am trying to say: Lets encourage users to USE their systems. Far too many people are timid around them.

    Just wanted to elaborate more then anything.

    Also: The same, I find, applies to hardware.
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