i read your post. it's you that didn't read - Apple's website.
AirPlay is a very recent innovation. it isn't backwards compatible with old gear obviously. you need Apple peripherals - AirPort Express/Apple TV - or compatible recent third party gear to set it up around the house, plus a Mac computer or iOS device for the source.
and then of course you go on to bash Apple about something else for the n+1 time ...
i read your post. it's you that didn't read - Apple's website.
AirPlay is a very recent innovation. it isn't backwards compatible with old gear obviously. you need Apple peripherals - AirPort Express/Apple TV - or compatible recent third party gear to set it up around the house, plus a Mac computer or iOS device for the source.
and then of course you go on to bash Apple about something else for the n+1 time ...
No, you quite obviously didn't read it, and apparently still haven't
I wasn't criticizing Apple in particular, but all the player should unite in a common wireless protocol. Yes, it's only its beginning. Hopefully this will happen soon. I can't wait to be able to go to a friend's house and stream my pictures on his TV without having to worry if he has an Apple TV.
Or, more realistically, I'd love to be able to show him any photo I have in the cloud on his TV. I just ask my iWatch to display my last album on the TV and BAM.
I agree that would be cool, and it may indeed happen a few years from now, considering that Apple now has several 3rd party licensees for audio-Airplay. But it will take years to become commonplace, just as Bluetooth audio streaming has only seriously taken off within the last year. And it will take even longer for a truly open spec to emerge, if ever, for such a complex operation; I suspect quality could suffer as devices would only have to support a lowest common denominator for resolution, bitrate, and codec complexity.
What's the open protocol they could use? Who has developed such a thing that is supported by all devices?
DLNA is supported by a very wide range of devices. Not sure if it is truly 'open', but there are open source projects based on it. Allshare is just one implementation of DLNA I believe.
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If you didn't buy a HiFi with Airplay support, why in Jobs' name did you expect it to work anyway? Samsung Allshare doesn't work with the stereo in my 1998 Honda Accord, so clearly Honda is screwing us consumers too.
And I love your logic that Allshare is Superior because it's Superior. That's the same reason they named Lake Superior; it's better than the other lakes just cause.
You simply did not understand what I wrote. I am talking about connecting a device to an existing HiFi, with that device being the one I wish to stream to. I initially thought I ought to be able to stream to a Touch, which was connected to the HiFi. As explained, Airplay doesn't allow you to do that. I have simply fallen back on using my phone, which has Allshare and which I can stream to. I said Allshare was superior because it does what I want it to do, and therfore works, whereas Airplay doesn't.
What router are you two currently using? I have a Netgear that occasionally drops the Airplay music signal, even while not under heavy load.
The newer/faster Time Capsule here.
When I switch into blind speculation mode I imagine lots of scenarios that might be the root of AirPlay occasionally becoming AirStop, but every time I try to fix one thing it just results in two other things breaking so I'm better off leaving it up to Apple to find a remedy!
For now it's not a big enough problem to bother me that much, so I just accept living with AirPlaysForWhileThenStops.
Last: if most of your problems are ISP related (actual internet throughput, not local network), have them reset your modem. You may also need a speed bump. I'm running 40Mbps service from my cable company.
Internet into the home shouldn't have any effect on AirPlay stalling, since AirPlay only involves devices on the LAN.
You simply did not understand what I wrote. I am talking about connecting a device to an existing HiFi, with that device being the one I wish to stream to.
By HiFi, do you mean sound system? What sound system do you have? For it receive a stream from an Android device it must have some kind of receiver built into it. It's the equivalent of having an Apple TV or AirPort Express, except that it happens to be built-in to the sound system.
This isn't a case of Allshare working while AirPlay doesn't, you just happen to have purchased a sound system that has an Allshare receiver instead of AirPlay. You could have just as easily purchased a HiFi with an AirPlay receiver instead of Allshare. Unless I'm missing something, I don't see how that could be considered a failing on Apple's part?
By HiFi, do you mean sound system? What sound system do you have? For it receive a stream from an Android device it must have some kind of receiver built into it. It's the equivalent of having an Apple TV or AirPort Express, except that it happens to be built-in to the sound system.
This isn't a case of Allshare working while AirPlay doesn't, you just happen to have purchased a sound system that has an Allshare receiver instead of AirPlay. You could have just as easily purchased a HiFi with an AirPlay receiver instead of Allshare. Unless I'm missing something, I don't see how that could be considered a failing on Apple's part?
Old school 2.1 system: Sources -> Pre amp -> Power Amp -> Speakers. Sources are usually either an iPod or a CD player. In place of the iPod, I substitute my phone, which has Allshare. I can then stream from my laptop to the phone and the music comes out the speakers. No Android devices involved. Allshare works, but the software is a bit limited and inelegant. I was hoping Airplay would be better and that I could stream to an iPod Touch, in the same way I can stream to my phone.
Old school 2.1 system: Sources -> Pre amp -> Power Amp -> Speakers. Sources are usually either an iPod or a CD player. In place of the iPod, I substitute my phone, which has Allshare. I can then stream from my laptop to the phone and the music comes out the speakers. No Android devices involved. Allshare works, but the software is a bit limited and inelegant. I was hoping Airplay would be better and that I could stream to an iPod Touch, in the same way I can stream to my phone.
Gotcha. Sorry, I was having trouble figuring out what you were doing. I misunderstood what Allshare is, thinking you were talking about an Android equivalent to AirPlay, and that you were trying to stream from the iPod to the HiFi with no other devices involved. I get it now.
Actually, an Apple TV is $142 where I live. So you are just like Apple and think I should have spent just over $3500 to be able to use Airplay? I disagree and am not playing. Also, neither the ATV or Express are battery operated and portable. I have two HiFi's I would have liked to Airplay to, so thanks very much, but I don't feel like upping the expenditure to $284.
This deliberate restriction of Airplay to hopefully generate additional income is symptomatic of iGreed, which came in around the time the iPhone was introduced. I have a 3rd Generation iPod Classic, which pre-dates iGreed. It is a wonderful device - except for the battery, the capacity of which Apple lied about to the point they got class-actioned for it and had to recompense customers in the US. Customers outside the US got shafted, as usual. Of course given the sycophantic mindset which infects you and others here, I no doubt only bought it because I was prescient, knowing I could later use it to bash Apple with. Want to know what Apple was like Pre-iGreed? Probably not, the view through those rose-tinted, or in your case rainbow-tinted, glasses is no doubt preferable to reality.
That iPod came with: a mains power adapter, firewire cable, firewire to mini USB adapter, a headphone extension cable with full inline remote, a dock, a CDROM with software, a soft travel pouch and a high quality hard case/holster with belt clip and a pair of lousy quality earbuds.
Contrast all that with what came with the Touch - a USB cable and lousy quality earbuds.
My Macbook Pro Retina didn't even come with a Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter. At the very least, I think Apple should have provided a voucher redeemable for the adapter for those who needed one.
What an amazing specimen you are. Such a frustrated, hateful, petty, bitter human being, to the point of being sociopathic. I don't even know where to start with your mind-numbingly ridiculous rambling.
1. I'm gonna go to the apple.com now and buy 10 macbook pros, 5 iPads, and 10 iPod touches, and what he hell, a couple Mac Pros. Then, I'll bitch about how greedy Apple is, in that I just spent $20,000 and I STILL can't airplay to some random device I have at home that doesn't even have airplay built in to begin with. It's like someone buying a sportscar for $100,000 and then bitching how for that kind of money he STILL can't check his email with his car. If you spent $3500 solely for airplay, yes, you are a fool. It's not Apple's fault you didn't do some basic research, then blame Apple like a little schoolgirl because your hifi-whatever didn't support the protocol. I shouldn't have to elaborate as to how insane and childish your logic is. The cost of your Apple hardware is completely irrelevant.
2. The "iGreed". It wasn't clever the 1st time, but you of course feel the need to endlessly repeat it. How cute. It's also cute how you're still so butthurt about an iPod classic capacity discrepency from 2003. Really? You're still that traumatized about something so trivial? Fascinating. I'm curious as to what kind of strange, sheltered life you must live, that to this day you're still emotionally distraught and vengeful over such a thing.
3. Re your "pre-iGreed", again, fascinating how you focus on some stupid bullshit in order to bitch and whine. So you got some cable extenders, adapters, and drivers which came on a CD (which would be utterly useless to include with todays devices) with your $400 black and white, thick as a brick hard-drive based music player that could do exactly ONE task- play music. Today, for less money, you get an iPod touch, an insanely thin and light wireless computer that can do a bazillion things, and which you can extend with a software collection in the hundreds of thousands of apps- for less money than your precious iPod classic. But, your butthurt because you don't get a bag of cables with that, which happened in the wonderful days "pre-iGreed". I'm completely serious when I say that you don't sound sane. If you haven't been paying attention, Apple throughout it's history has strived to simplify- that includes packaging and included garbage that many people won't touch. But hey, we now know that there's one person out there who is furious that CDs and obsolete cables are not being included with his purchases.
It really sounds as if you have a sickness. First of all, stop buying Apple products since you have such venemous hate towards the company, and it's products. You truly take the "bitter troll" award of the month, as I have yet to come across people still fuming over a capacity discrepancy from a 2003 product, or that they can't send airpplay content to a non-airplay device, or frustrated that they're not getting cable extenders and CDs with their iDevices. Please go build a time machine or something, and leave the rest of us who are sane enough to aknowledge that Apple's product line today in infinitely superior than their pre "iGreed" years, when unicorns roamed the earth and everything was so awesome- except of course for the iPod classic capacity thing which just made the world such a horrible place. I have no idea how you manage life on a daily basis, with so much bent up frustration over such irrational reasons.
What an amazing specimen you are. Such a frustrated, hateful, petty, bitter human being, to the point of being sociopathic. I don't even know where to start with your mind-numbingly ridiculous rambling.
1. I'm gonna go to the apple.com now and buy 10 macbook pros, 5 iPads, and 10 iPod touches, and what he hell, a couple Mac Pros. Then, I'll bitch about how greedy Apple is, in that I just spent $20,000 and I STILL can't airplay to some random device I have at home that doesn't even have airplay built in to begin with. It's like someone buying a sportscar for $100,000 and then bitching how for that kind of money he STILL can't check his email with his car. If you spent $3500 solely for airplay, yes, you are a fool. It's not Apple's fault you didn't do some basic research, then blame Apple like a little schoolgirl because your hifi-whatever didn't support the protocol. I shouldn't have to elaborate as to how insane and childish your logic is. The cost of your Apple hardware is completely irrelevant.
2. The "iGreed". It wasn't clever the 1st time, but you of course feel the need to endlessly repeat it. How cute. It's also cute how you're still so butthurt about an iPod classic capacity discrepency from 2003. Really? You're still that traumatized about something so trivial? Fascinating. I'm curious as to what kind of strange, sheltered life you must live, that to this day you're still emotionally distraught and vengeful over such a thing.
3. Re your "pre-iGreed", again, fascinating how you focus on some stupid bullshit in order to bitch and whine. So you got some cable extenders, adapters, and drivers which came on a CD (which would be utterly useless to include with todays devices) with your $400 black and white, thick as a brick hard-drive based music player that could do exactly ONE task- play music. Today, for less money, you get an iPod touch, an insanely thin and light wireless computer that can do a bazillion things, and which you can extend with a software collection in the hundreds of thousands of apps- for less money than your precious iPod classic. But, your butthurt because you don't get a bag of cables with that, which happened in the wonderful days "pre-iGreed". I'm completely serious when I say that you don't sound sane. If you haven't been paying attention, Apple throughout it's history has strived to simplify- that includes packaging and included garbage that many people won't touch. But hey, we now know that there's one person out there who is furious that CDs and obsolete cables are not being included with his purchases.
It really sounds as if you have a sickness. First of all, stop buying Apple products since you have such venemous hate towards the company, and it's products. You truly take the "bitter troll" award of the month, as I have yet to come across people still fuming over a capacity discrepancy from a 2003 product, or that they can't send airpplay content to a non-airplay device, or frustrated that they're not getting cable extenders and CDs with their iDevices. Please go build a time machine or something, and leave the rest of us who are sane enough to aknowledge that Apple's product line today in infinitely superior than their pre "iGreed" years, when unicorns roamed the earth and everything was so awesome- except of course for the iPod classic capacity thing which just made the world such a horrible place. I have no idea how you manage life on a daily basis, with so much bent up frustration over such irrational reasons.
When I got my daughter an iPod Touch, I thought great, I can try out this wonderful Airplay, and I am not saying that with sarcasm, I truly wanted it to be wonderful. With great anticipation I configured my then recently purchased Macbook Pro Retina and the Touch, hooked the Touch to my HiFi and then set about streaming from the MBPR to the HiFi. What a great typical Apple experience that was. €2500 ($3,300) worth of Apple goodness and it didn't work. Oh no, you see to get it to work you have to spend more than that. Apple isn't happy that I only spent that much, they wanted me to spend more and get an Apple TV or an Airport Express.
So Apple lost a sale of another iPod Touch and I went back to using my trusty Samsung phone with Allshare that does indeed let me stream from my laptop to my HiFi.
Really? The cost of living must be ten times higher in Ireland than in California because I bought a $300 Denon HiFi receiver that has Airplay and it works just fine with my iPod Touch (version 2 in fact!) and our two iPads. No problems at all and you can hardly call that expensive Apple equipment.
I don't know why, but it happens here, too. iTunes on the MBP playing through the ATV. Music plays for a while, then for no apparent reason it just stops. If I pause iTunes and hit play again it resumes, but I'd sure like to know why I have to do that. Scratch that. I don't CARE why. I just don't want to have to DO that.
We never had that problem with the old Airport Express, at least not at our house.
I wonder if it's the timer on the ATV thinking it's time to sleep? I haven't noticed if the light goes out when it stops.
I had a similar issue with audio on my Denon receiver. It turns out that there were too many things connected to the wireless part of my cable router (I had the Denon connected via a wifi dongle). When I connected the receiver to the router using an ethernet cable, all worked fine. Oddly, my AppleTV never had that issue even though it is connected via wifi.
I had a similar issue with audio on my Denon receiver. It turns out that there were too many things connected to the wireless part of my cable router (I had the Denon connected via a wifi dongle). When I connected the receiver to the router using an ethernet cable, all worked fine. Oddly, my AppleTV never had that issue even though it is connected via wifi.
How did you know that I have a Denon receiver?!
In our case, the receiver isn't connected to the router at all -- if it has any kind of LAN capability it's apparently not anything I felt compelled to use when I hooked it up -- so that particular device isn't contributing to any kind of network congestion, but I suppose something else could be. Maybe something somewhere on the network "checks in" for something and interrupts the AirPlay. That seems like a fault in the system though, not just a normal part of living with a wireless network.
Tangent: How did you decide on a Denon receiver? In our case it was stupid: Has to be shallow enough front-to-back to fit where we want to put it, has to have 4 HDMI inputs, must up convert, and has to cost under $400! We found a few that satisfied the last three criteria, but only the Denon fit the shelf!
I think a lot of people are misunderstanding what you were trying to do, just like I did.
It might help if you clarify that your issue is that AirPlay needs a dedicated receiving device (like an ATV or AirPort Express) whereas Allshare allows you to play from any device to any other other.
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Originally Posted by cnocbui
Read my post above.
i read your post. it's you that didn't read - Apple's website.
AirPlay is a very recent innovation. it isn't backwards compatible with old gear obviously. you need Apple peripherals - AirPort Express/Apple TV - or compatible recent third party gear to set it up around the house, plus a Mac computer or iOS device for the source.
and then of course you go on to bash Apple about something else for the n+1 time ...
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Originally Posted by Alfiejr
i read your post. it's you that didn't read - Apple's website.
AirPlay is a very recent innovation. it isn't backwards compatible with old gear obviously. you need Apple peripherals - AirPort Express/Apple TV - or compatible recent third party gear to set it up around the house, plus a Mac computer or iOS device for the source.
and then of course you go on to bash Apple about something else for the n+1 time ...
No, you quite obviously didn't read it, and apparently still haven't
In reply to Vorsos.
I wasn't criticizing Apple in particular, but all the player should unite in a common wireless protocol. Yes, it's only its beginning. Hopefully this will happen soon. I can't wait to be able to go to a friend's house and stream my pictures on his TV without having to worry if he has an Apple TV.
Or, more realistically, I'd love to be able to show him any photo I have in the cloud on his TV. I just ask my iWatch to display my last album on the TV and BAM.
I agree that would be cool, and it may indeed happen a few years from now, considering that Apple now has several 3rd party licensees for audio-Airplay. But it will take years to become commonplace, just as Bluetooth audio streaming has only seriously taken off within the last year. And it will take even longer for a truly open spec to emerge, if ever, for such a complex operation; I suspect quality could suffer as devices would only have to support a lowest common denominator for resolution, bitrate, and codec complexity.
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Originally Posted by Vorsos
What's the open protocol they could use? Who has developed such a thing that is supported by all devices?
DLNA is supported by a very wide range of devices. Not sure if it is truly 'open', but there are open source projects based on it. Allshare is just one implementation of DLNA I believe.
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If you didn't buy a HiFi with Airplay support, why in Jobs' name did you expect it to work anyway? Samsung Allshare doesn't work with the stereo in my 1998 Honda Accord, so clearly Honda is screwing us consumers too.
And I love your logic that Allshare is Superior because it's Superior. That's the same reason they named Lake Superior; it's better than the other lakes just cause.
You simply did not understand what I wrote. I am talking about connecting a device to an existing HiFi, with that device being the one I wish to stream to. I initially thought I ought to be able to stream to a Touch, which was connected to the HiFi. As explained, Airplay doesn't allow you to do that. I have simply fallen back on using my phone, which has Allshare and which I can stream to. I said Allshare was superior because it does what I want it to do, and therfore works, whereas Airplay doesn't.
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Originally Posted by Vorsos
What router are you two currently using? I have a Netgear that occasionally drops the Airplay music signal, even while not under heavy load.
The newer/faster Time Capsule here.
When I switch into blind speculation mode I imagine lots of scenarios that might be the root of AirPlay occasionally becoming AirStop, but every time I try to fix one thing it just results in two other things breaking so I'm better off leaving it up to Apple to find a remedy!
For now it's not a big enough problem to bother me that much, so I just accept living with AirPlaysForWhileThenStops.
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Originally Posted by RedGeminiPA
Last: if most of your problems are ISP related (actual internet throughput, not local network), have them reset your modem. You may also need a speed bump. I'm running 40Mbps service from my cable company.
Internet into the home shouldn't have any effect on AirPlay stalling, since AirPlay only involves devices on the LAN.
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Originally Posted by cnocbui
You simply did not understand what I wrote. I am talking about connecting a device to an existing HiFi, with that device being the one I wish to stream to.
By HiFi, do you mean sound system? What sound system do you have? For it receive a stream from an Android device it must have some kind of receiver built into it. It's the equivalent of having an Apple TV or AirPort Express, except that it happens to be built-in to the sound system.
This isn't a case of Allshare working while AirPlay doesn't, you just happen to have purchased a sound system that has an Allshare receiver instead of AirPlay. You could have just as easily purchased a HiFi with an AirPlay receiver instead of Allshare. Unless I'm missing something, I don't see how that could be considered a failing on Apple's part?
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Originally Posted by v5v
By HiFi, do you mean sound system? What sound system do you have? For it receive a stream from an Android device it must have some kind of receiver built into it. It's the equivalent of having an Apple TV or AirPort Express, except that it happens to be built-in to the sound system.
This isn't a case of Allshare working while AirPlay doesn't, you just happen to have purchased a sound system that has an Allshare receiver instead of AirPlay. You could have just as easily purchased a HiFi with an AirPlay receiver instead of Allshare. Unless I'm missing something, I don't see how that could be considered a failing on Apple's part?
Old school 2.1 system: Sources -> Pre amp -> Power Amp -> Speakers. Sources are usually either an iPod or a CD player. In place of the iPod, I substitute my phone, which has Allshare. I can then stream from my laptop to the phone and the music comes out the speakers. No Android devices involved. Allshare works, but the software is a bit limited and inelegant. I was hoping Airplay would be better and that I could stream to an iPod Touch, in the same way I can stream to my phone.
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Originally Posted by cnocbui
Old school 2.1 system: Sources -> Pre amp -> Power Amp -> Speakers. Sources are usually either an iPod or a CD player. In place of the iPod, I substitute my phone, which has Allshare. I can then stream from my laptop to the phone and the music comes out the speakers. No Android devices involved. Allshare works, but the software is a bit limited and inelegant. I was hoping Airplay would be better and that I could stream to an iPod Touch, in the same way I can stream to my phone.
Gotcha. Sorry, I was having trouble figuring out what you were doing. I misunderstood what Allshare is, thinking you were talking about an Android equivalent to AirPlay, and that you were trying to stream from the iPod to the HiFi with no other devices involved. I get it now.
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Originally Posted by cnocbui
Read my post above.
Actually, an Apple TV is $142 where I live. So you are just like Apple and think I should have spent just over $3500 to be able to use Airplay? I disagree and am not playing. Also, neither the ATV or Express are battery operated and portable. I have two HiFi's I would have liked to Airplay to, so thanks very much, but I don't feel like upping the expenditure to $284.
This deliberate restriction of Airplay to hopefully generate additional income is symptomatic of iGreed, which came in around the time the iPhone was introduced. I have a 3rd Generation iPod Classic, which pre-dates iGreed. It is a wonderful device - except for the battery, the capacity of which Apple lied about to the point they got class-actioned for it and had to recompense customers in the US. Customers outside the US got shafted, as usual. Of course given the sycophantic mindset which infects you and others here, I no doubt only bought it because I was prescient, knowing I could later use it to bash Apple with. Want to know what Apple was like Pre-iGreed? Probably not, the view through those rose-tinted, or in your case rainbow-tinted, glasses is no doubt preferable to reality.
That iPod came with: a mains power adapter, firewire cable, firewire to mini USB adapter, a headphone extension cable with full inline remote, a dock, a CDROM with software, a soft travel pouch and a high quality hard case/holster with belt clip and a pair of lousy quality earbuds.
Contrast all that with what came with the Touch - a USB cable and lousy quality earbuds.
My Macbook Pro Retina didn't even come with a Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter. At the very least, I think Apple should have provided a voucher redeemable for the adapter for those who needed one.
What an amazing specimen you are. Such a frustrated, hateful, petty, bitter human being, to the point of being sociopathic. I don't even know where to start with your mind-numbingly ridiculous rambling.
1. I'm gonna go to the apple.com now and buy 10 macbook pros, 5 iPads, and 10 iPod touches, and what he hell, a couple Mac Pros. Then, I'll bitch about how greedy Apple is, in that I just spent $20,000 and I STILL can't airplay to some random device I have at home that doesn't even have airplay built in to begin with. It's like someone buying a sportscar for $100,000 and then bitching how for that kind of money he STILL can't check his email with his car. If you spent $3500 solely for airplay, yes, you are a fool. It's not Apple's fault you didn't do some basic research, then blame Apple like a little schoolgirl because your hifi-whatever didn't support the protocol. I shouldn't have to elaborate as to how insane and childish your logic is. The cost of your Apple hardware is completely irrelevant.
2. The "iGreed". It wasn't clever the 1st time, but you of course feel the need to endlessly repeat it. How cute. It's also cute how you're still so butthurt about an iPod classic capacity discrepency from 2003. Really? You're still that traumatized about something so trivial? Fascinating. I'm curious as to what kind of strange, sheltered life you must live, that to this day you're still emotionally distraught and vengeful over such a thing.
3. Re your "pre-iGreed", again, fascinating how you focus on some stupid bullshit in order to bitch and whine. So you got some cable extenders, adapters, and drivers which came on a CD (which would be utterly useless to include with todays devices) with your $400 black and white, thick as a brick hard-drive based music player that could do exactly ONE task- play music. Today, for less money, you get an iPod touch, an insanely thin and light wireless computer that can do a bazillion things, and which you can extend with a software collection in the hundreds of thousands of apps- for less money than your precious iPod classic. But, your butthurt because you don't get a bag of cables with that, which happened in the wonderful days "pre-iGreed". I'm completely serious when I say that you don't sound sane. If you haven't been paying attention, Apple throughout it's history has strived to simplify- that includes packaging and included garbage that many people won't touch. But hey, we now know that there's one person out there who is furious that CDs and obsolete cables are not being included with his purchases.
It really sounds as if you have a sickness. First of all, stop buying Apple products since you have such venemous hate towards the company, and it's products. You truly take the "bitter troll" award of the month, as I have yet to come across people still fuming over a capacity discrepancy from a 2003 product, or that they can't send airpplay content to a non-airplay device, or frustrated that they're not getting cable extenders and CDs with their iDevices. Please go build a time machine or something, and leave the rest of us who are sane enough to aknowledge that Apple's product line today in infinitely superior than their pre "iGreed" years, when unicorns roamed the earth and everything was so awesome- except of course for the iPod classic capacity thing which just made the world such a horrible place. I have no idea how you manage life on a daily basis, with so much bent up frustration over such irrational reasons.
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Originally Posted by Slurpy
What an amazing specimen you are. Such a frustrated, hateful, petty, bitter human being, to the point of being sociopathic. I don't even know where to start with your mind-numbingly ridiculous rambling.
1. I'm gonna go to the apple.com now and buy 10 macbook pros, 5 iPads, and 10 iPod touches, and what he hell, a couple Mac Pros. Then, I'll bitch about how greedy Apple is, in that I just spent $20,000 and I STILL can't airplay to some random device I have at home that doesn't even have airplay built in to begin with. It's like someone buying a sportscar for $100,000 and then bitching how for that kind of money he STILL can't check his email with his car. If you spent $3500 solely for airplay, yes, you are a fool. It's not Apple's fault you didn't do some basic research, then blame Apple like a little schoolgirl because your hifi-whatever didn't support the protocol. I shouldn't have to elaborate as to how insane and childish your logic is. The cost of your Apple hardware is completely irrelevant.
2. The "iGreed". It wasn't clever the 1st time, but you of course feel the need to endlessly repeat it. How cute. It's also cute how you're still so butthurt about an iPod classic capacity discrepency from 2003. Really? You're still that traumatized about something so trivial? Fascinating. I'm curious as to what kind of strange, sheltered life you must live, that to this day you're still emotionally distraught and vengeful over such a thing.
3. Re your "pre-iGreed", again, fascinating how you focus on some stupid bullshit in order to bitch and whine. So you got some cable extenders, adapters, and drivers which came on a CD (which would be utterly useless to include with todays devices) with your $400 black and white, thick as a brick hard-drive based music player that could do exactly ONE task- play music. Today, for less money, you get an iPod touch, an insanely thin and light wireless computer that can do a bazillion things, and which you can extend with a software collection in the hundreds of thousands of apps- for less money than your precious iPod classic. But, your butthurt because you don't get a bag of cables with that, which happened in the wonderful days "pre-iGreed". I'm completely serious when I say that you don't sound sane. If you haven't been paying attention, Apple throughout it's history has strived to simplify- that includes packaging and included garbage that many people won't touch. But hey, we now know that there's one person out there who is furious that CDs and obsolete cables are not being included with his purchases.
It really sounds as if you have a sickness. First of all, stop buying Apple products since you have such venemous hate towards the company, and it's products. You truly take the "bitter troll" award of the month, as I have yet to come across people still fuming over a capacity discrepancy from a 2003 product, or that they can't send airpplay content to a non-airplay device, or frustrated that they're not getting cable extenders and CDs with their iDevices. Please go build a time machine or something, and leave the rest of us who are sane enough to aknowledge that Apple's product line today in infinitely superior than their pre "iGreed" years, when unicorns roamed the earth and everything was so awesome- except of course for the iPod classic capacity thing which just made the world such a horrible place. I have no idea how you manage life on a daily basis, with so much bent up frustration over such irrational reasons.
Was it something I said?
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When I got my daughter an iPod Touch, I thought great, I can try out this wonderful Airplay, and I am not saying that with sarcasm, I truly wanted it to be wonderful. With great anticipation I configured my then recently purchased Macbook Pro Retina and the Touch, hooked the Touch to my HiFi and then set about streaming from the MBPR to the HiFi. What a great typical Apple experience that was. €2500 ($3,300) worth of Apple goodness and it didn't work. Oh no, you see to get it to work you have to spend more than that. Apple isn't happy that I only spent that much, they wanted me to spend more and get an Apple TV or an Airport Express.
So Apple lost a sale of another iPod Touch and I went back to using my trusty Samsung phone with Allshare that does indeed let me stream from my laptop to my HiFi.
Really? The cost of living must be ten times higher in Ireland than in California because I bought a $300 Denon HiFi receiver that has Airplay and it works just fine with my iPod Touch (version 2 in fact!) and our two iPads. No problems at all and you can hardly call that expensive Apple equipment.
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I don't know why, but it happens here, too. iTunes on the MBP playing through the ATV. Music plays for a while, then for no apparent reason it just stops. If I pause iTunes and hit play again it resumes, but I'd sure like to know why I have to do that. Scratch that. I don't CARE why. I just don't want to have to DO that.
We never had that problem with the old Airport Express, at least not at our house.
I wonder if it's the timer on the ATV thinking it's time to sleep? I haven't noticed if the light goes out when it stops.
I had a similar issue with audio on my Denon receiver. It turns out that there were too many things connected to the wireless part of my cable router (I had the Denon connected via a wifi dongle). When I connected the receiver to the router using an ethernet cable, all worked fine. Oddly, my AppleTV never had that issue even though it is connected via wifi.
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I had a similar issue with audio on my Denon receiver. It turns out that there were too many things connected to the wireless part of my cable router (I had the Denon connected via a wifi dongle). When I connected the receiver to the router using an ethernet cable, all worked fine. Oddly, my AppleTV never had that issue even though it is connected via wifi.
How did you know that I have a Denon receiver?!
In our case, the receiver isn't connected to the router at all -- if it has any kind of LAN capability it's apparently not anything I felt compelled to use when I hooked it up -- so that particular device isn't contributing to any kind of network congestion, but I suppose something else could be. Maybe something somewhere on the network "checks in" for something and interrupts the AirPlay. That seems like a fault in the system though, not just a normal part of living with a wireless network.
Tangent: How did you decide on a Denon receiver? In our case it was stupid: Has to be shallow enough front-to-back to fit where we want to put it, has to have 4 HDMI inputs, must up convert, and has to cost under $400! We found a few that satisfied the last three criteria, but only the Denon fit the shelf!
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Was it something I said?
I think a lot of people are misunderstanding what you were trying to do, just like I did.
It might help if you clarify that your issue is that AirPlay needs a dedicated receiving device (like an ATV or AirPort Express) whereas Allshare allows you to play from any device to any other other.