When the **** is it ok to compare a holiday quarter sales to the next, and then define that as "tumbling"? When, in the history of the universe, has a ny product INCREASED in sales after the holiday quarter? The correct way to measure growth and performance is YoY, and if they did that, they would have discovered that Verizon iPhone sales GREW 25% YoY- the only sane comparison that can be done. Yet, that headline would not have been misleading, sensational, or negative enough- so they decided to fudge that and go with this one, hoping to prey upon ignorant people who dont read the fineprint and realize how ridiculous of a headline that is
Other cultures are irrelevant, especially if they are barbaric and/or primitive. When two cultures meet, it is common sense that the advanced culture trumps the primitive culture. The arab spring is also a joke and massive failure, but since this is not in the political section, I won't go into any further detail.
As for the internet, it doesn't really matter, as there is no going back now obviously. Though I can definitely think of a few advantages that would have been gained by keeping it closed.
If a genie granted me 3 wishes and barred me from wishing for more wishes, I would use 1/3 of my precious gift to send you permanently to live in a third world country so that you might appreciate how much people suffer just to get from one day to the next. You are utterly misanthropic and I hope the worst for you.
If a genie granted me 3 wishes and barred me from wishing for more wishes, I would use 1/3 of my precious gift to send you permanently to live in a third world country so that you might appreciate how much people suffer just to get from one day to the next. You are utterly misanthropic and I hope the worst for you.
If a genie granted me 3 wishes and barred me from wishing for more wishes, I would use 1/3 of my precious gift to send you permanently to live in a third world country so that you might appreciate how much people suffer just to get from one day to the next. You are utterly misanthropic and I hope the worst for you.
There's no need to waste one of your precious wishes on me. I'm pretty well travelled and have already seen a lot of the world, probably more than the average person. I believe that many third world countries are the way that they are because many of the people there have a third world mentality, often due to their own culture and/or religion, which is a huge hinder to human advancement. If your wish came true and you banished me to a third world country, then that country would obviously improve, since I would be bringing logic, science and reason into an otherwise empty and ignorant place, lacking in common sense.
There's no need to waste one of your precious wishes on me. I'm pretty well travelled and have already seen a lot of the world, probably more than the average person. I believe that many third world countries are the way that they are because many of the people there have a third world mentality, often due to their own culture and/or religion, which is a huge hinder to human advancement. If your wish came true and you banished me to a third world country, then that country would obviously improve, since I would be bringing logic, science and reason into an otherwise empty and ignorant place, lacking in common sense.
Like no one has tried before. You're every bit the American. Everybody should be like us because we're better than everyone else.
Last quarter... HTC represented just 3% of all smartphone sales.
But now people are breaking down the door wanting the HTC One?
:???:
People haven't been too focused on what HTC is producing lately... so I seriously doubt there will be that much much demand for the HTC One.
HTC's profits dropped 98% YOY last quarter too. I've even heard that HTC will be in serious trouble if the One doesn't deliver.
Hope for the best... but prepare for the worst.
Nobody has been paying attention to HTC because they can't compete with Samsung in the advertisement game but they've produced much better devices than Samsung. If I weren't only a year into my contract I'd be choosing HTC as my next phone.
There's no need to waste one of your precious wishes on me. I'm pretty well travelled and have already seen a lot of the world, probably more than the average person. I believe that many third world countries are the way that they are because many of the people there have a third world mentality, often due to their own culture and/or religion, which is a huge hinder to human advancement. If your wish came true and you banished me to a third world country, then that country would obviously improve, since I would be bringing logic, science and reason into an otherwise empty and ignorant place, lacking in common sense.
I'm not sure how you have survived in NYC this long with your attitude. You'd think surely someone would have put you out of your misery by now.
First of all, I don't own any Android devices and probably never will. I own two MacBook Pros, one MacPro, one Mac Mini, bought two iMacs for friends and family in the last three years, and owned an iPhone 3G, 4 and 4S. The iPhone 5 is the first iPhone since the 3G that I haven't jumped on because it offered nothing compelling over the 4S, which is part of Apple's problem right now.
The carrier line charts clearly show iOS growth at AT&T, but flat iOS growth at Verizon. Remove the holiday bumps from the Verizon chart and what do you get? You get a little iOS above Android and a little below, but overall when you average out the peaks and valleys in the iOS Verizon chart you get something very similar to the Android line. The only thing this proves is that iPhone gets a nice holiday bump while Android does not.
None of your screaming and shouting is going to change the fact that at Verizon, iOS and Android are pretty much even once you average out the peaks and valleys. At AT&T, iOS is clearly king. However, you cannot draw any overall market conclusions from these graphs as a significant portion of iOS sales occur outside of the US.
I love Apple, I even own Apple stock. I understand the need to want to write these types of articles given all of the negative news lately. I just think this article is reaching a false conclusion based largely on AT&T numbers because the Verizon numbers are not really that impressive.
The lines do not show growth rates for Android and iOS. The lines show absolute numbers. Android sales at Verizon are esentially flat over the period. iOS is growing - but yes with seasonality.
There is a very large demand for the HTC One right now.
If I was in the market for an Android phone, the HTC One would be at the top of my list, no question. It looks like a fantastic phone. Unfortunately, I doubt this will translate into blockbuster sales. Yeah, there's a huge buzz on tech blogs etc. But Samsung has managed to convince everyone that they have the only phones worth considering in the Android space, and carriers seem utterly uninterested in anything else, pushing Galaxies as if they were the company itself. It doesn't hurt that Samsung's marketing budget leaves no room for anyone to breathe- last I checked it was like 4-5X that of Apple's. It's sad that other OEMs (ie. HTC) are basically being ignored, because the HTC One is a superior device to anything that Samsung makes,
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Very well put, thanks!
Says the Fandroid to the fellow Fandroid.
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Ah, so this justifies you randomly spouting?
Nope, reaching a conclusion based on what is known.
i.e. Samsung claimed 100 million Galaxy S phones sold. Schmidt claims 1 Billion Android activations.
Therefore around 90% of Android activations are not Samsung high end smartphones.
Given Samsung's dominance not much of the remaining 90% are high end smartphones from other manufacturers.
That means that most Android phones are low to mid range.
Given Android manufacturers reticence in giving out break downs of precise numbers then that is all we have to go on.
Just another example of a disgusting, misleading headline with an agenda of negativity- it's shit like this that affects the stock price.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/18/technology/mobile/verizon-iphone/index.html
"Verizon iPhone sales tumble 33%"
When the **** is it ok to compare a holiday quarter sales to the next, and then define that as "tumbling"? When, in the history of the universe, has a ny product INCREASED in sales after the holiday quarter? The correct way to measure growth and performance is YoY, and if they did that, they would have discovered that Verizon iPhone sales GREW 25% YoY- the only sane comparison that can be done. Yet, that headline would not have been misleading, sensational, or negative enough- so they decided to fudge that and go with this one, hoping to prey upon ignorant people who dont read the fineprint and realize how ridiculous of a headline that is
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Says the Fandroid to the fellow Fandroid.
Since his post was completely platform agnostic, yeah, whatever.
For a balanced overview, see: http://techland.time.com/2013/04/16/ios-vs-android/
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Since his post was completely platform agnostic, yeah, whatever.
Oh, that particular post had nothing to do with the characterization.
I have a pretty good memory, and I know who most people are here, based on their posting history.
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For a balanced overview, see: http://techland.time.com/2013/04/16/ios-vs-android/
Balanced based on "estimates" which even the author points out lead to conflicting reports.
Due to Android manufacturers not releasing concrete figures "estimates" are the only thing there is to go on.
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Balanced based on "estimates" which even the author points out lead to conflicting reports.
Due to Android manufacturers not releasing concrete figures "estimates" are the only thing there is to go on.
The author is quite honest and balanced. Do you prefer to go on DED Kool-Aid induced delusions?
If a genie granted me 3 wishes and barred me from wishing for more wishes, I would use 1/3 of my precious gift to send you permanently to live in a third world country so that you might appreciate how much people suffer just to get from one day to the next. You are utterly misanthropic and I hope the worst for you.
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If a genie granted me 3 wishes and barred me from wishing for more wishes, I would use 1/3 of my precious gift to send you permanently to live in a third world country so that you might appreciate how much people suffer just to get from one day to the next. You are utterly misanthropic and I hope the worst for you.
Why would you waste a wish on an asshole?
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Originally Posted by wakefinance
If a genie granted me 3 wishes and barred me from wishing for more wishes, I would use 1/3 of my precious gift to send you permanently to live in a third world country so that you might appreciate how much people suffer just to get from one day to the next. You are utterly misanthropic and I hope the worst for you.
There's no need to waste one of your precious wishes on me. I'm pretty well travelled and have already seen a lot of the world, probably more than the average person. I believe that many third world countries are the way that they are because many of the people there have a third world mentality, often due to their own culture and/or religion, which is a huge hinder to human advancement. If your wish came true and you banished me to a third world country, then that country would obviously improve, since I would be bringing logic, science and reason into an otherwise empty and ignorant place, lacking in common sense.
Last quarter... HTC represented just 3% of all smartphone sales.
But now people are breaking down the door wanting the HTC One?
:???:
People haven't been too focused on what HTC is producing lately... so I seriously doubt there will be that much much demand for the HTC One.
HTC's profits dropped 98% YOY last quarter too. I've even heard that HTC will be in serious trouble if the One doesn't deliver.
Hope for the best... but prepare for the worst.
Like no one has tried before. You're every bit the American. Everybody should be like us because we're better than everyone else.
Nobody has been paying attention to HTC because they can't compete with Samsung in the advertisement game but they've produced much better devices than Samsung. If I weren't only a year into my contract I'd be choosing HTC as my next phone.
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Why would you waste a wish on an asshole?
Hey Mods. Surely this person deserves an infraction, since they don't know how to behave on a forum in a civilized manner, am I wrong?
I'm pretty sure that I have gotten infractions in the past for a lot less than that.
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There's no need to waste one of your precious wishes on me. I'm pretty well travelled and have already seen a lot of the world, probably more than the average person. I believe that many third world countries are the way that they are because many of the people there have a third world mentality, often due to their own culture and/or religion, which is a huge hinder to human advancement. If your wish came true and you banished me to a third world country, then that country would obviously improve, since I would be bringing logic, science and reason into an otherwise empty and ignorant place, lacking in common sense.
I'm not sure how you have survived in NYC this long with your attitude. You'd think surely someone would have put you out of your misery by now.
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First of all, I don't own any Android devices and probably never will. I own two MacBook Pros, one MacPro, one Mac Mini, bought two iMacs for friends and family in the last three years, and owned an iPhone 3G, 4 and 4S. The iPhone 5 is the first iPhone since the 3G that I haven't jumped on because it offered nothing compelling over the 4S, which is part of Apple's problem right now.
The carrier line charts clearly show iOS growth at AT&T, but flat iOS growth at Verizon. Remove the holiday bumps from the Verizon chart and what do you get? You get a little iOS above Android and a little below, but overall when you average out the peaks and valleys in the iOS Verizon chart you get something very similar to the Android line. The only thing this proves is that iPhone gets a nice holiday bump while Android does not.
None of your screaming and shouting is going to change the fact that at Verizon, iOS and Android are pretty much even once you average out the peaks and valleys. At AT&T, iOS is clearly king. However, you cannot draw any overall market conclusions from these graphs as a significant portion of iOS sales occur outside of the US.
I love Apple, I even own Apple stock. I understand the need to want to write these types of articles given all of the negative news lately. I just think this article is reaching a false conclusion based largely on AT&T numbers because the Verizon numbers are not really that impressive.
The lines do not show growth rates for Android and iOS. The lines show absolute numbers. Android sales at Verizon are esentially flat over the period. iOS is growing - but yes with seasonality.
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Originally Posted by igriv
There is a very large demand for the HTC One right now.
If I was in the market for an Android phone, the HTC One would be at the top of my list, no question. It looks like a fantastic phone. Unfortunately, I doubt this will translate into blockbuster sales. Yeah, there's a huge buzz on tech blogs etc. But Samsung has managed to convince everyone that they have the only phones worth considering in the Android space, and carriers seem utterly uninterested in anything else, pushing Galaxies as if they were the company itself. It doesn't hurt that Samsung's marketing budget leaves no room for anyone to breathe- last I checked it was like 4-5X that of Apple's. It's sad that other OEMs (ie. HTC) are basically being ignored, because the HTC One is a superior device to anything that Samsung makes,