Samsung on Galaxy S4 storage complaints: Go buy an SD card

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  • Reply 41 of 139
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post



    In any event my point is USB 3 is about future products not yesterday's.


     


    Thunderbolt is about future products, thunderbolt and lightning.

  • Reply 42 of 139
    curtis hannahcurtis hannah Posts: 1,805member
    bdkennedy1 wrote: »
    It's time to get make 16GB the new 8GB. Phone operating systems and app stores have matured to the point 16GB is just enough for basic storage.

    Manufacturers need to start using 32, 64 and 128GB chips.
    Or to compete with laptops 256, and 512 would work.
  • Reply 43 of 139
    pedromartinspedromartins Posts: 1,333member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post


     


    Thunderbolt is about future products, thunderbolt and lightning.



    Is it possible for Apple to release (on the near future) a lightning-thunderbolt or lightning-usb3 cable instead of the current lightning-usb2 cable?

  • Reply 45 of 139
    suddenly newtonsuddenly newton Posts: 13,803member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    What would USB 3.0 do for the iPhone?
    I think that will happen this year but I don't think using 8GB for a mobile OS is commonplace. How large is iOS 6.1.4?

    I also wonder how many customers actually use these larger capacities. Up until last year I always bought the max but never used it. Now I've gone to the minimum on my iPad and iPhone and it hasn't been an issue.

    Well, I'm pushing the 64GB limit on my iPad 3. (Not jail broken. All legit apps and content.) I'm pretty much shuttling content from my MacBook Pro as needed. My entire iTunes library takes 172GB on the Mac, so no, I can't sync it all at once.
  • Reply 46 of 139
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member


    Originally Posted by MacRulez View Post

    But did you notice the model on the left?


     


    I noticed that it doesn't have a SIX PLUS GIGABYTE OPERATING SYSTEM ON IT, which continues to make your link utterly pointless.

  • Reply 47 of 139
    suddenly newtonsuddenly newton Posts: 13,803member
    Is it possible for Apple to release (on the near future) a lightning-thunderbolt or lightning-usb3 cable instead of the current lightning-usb2 cable?

    Unless the iPhone internally runs Lightning at higher than USB2 data rates, it's not going to help much, and only serve to create a problem for PC users who lack Thunderbolt (which is most of them). USB gives them the highest level of host compatibility.
  • Reply 48 of 139
    macrulezmacrulez Posts: 2,455member


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  • Reply 49 of 139
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member


    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

    Unless the iPhone internally runs Lightning at higher than USB2 data rates, it's not going to help much, and only serve to create a problem for PC users who lack Thunderbolt (which is most of them). USB gives them the highest level of host compatibility.


     


    Why not just make a USB 3/Thunderbolt split terminating in Lightning cable like the old USB/FireWire split terminating in Dock Connector cable?

  • Reply 50 of 139
    macky the mackymacky the macky Posts: 4,799member

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    Originally Posted by MacRulez View Post


    No problem, happy to help.


     


    But did you notice the model on the left?



    You talking about the guy in the tight blue underwear?  No, didn't pay him any attention at all, but I do miss the cute girl that used to be there.

  • Reply 51 of 139
    kzbk81kzbk81 Posts: 29member
    It's 'technical' way of making money out of microSD card sales. Can't the card be mounted in such a way that it is just an extended volume? May be they are afraid of a crashed OS when someone pulls the card away without un-mounting first.
  • Reply 52 of 139
    macky the mackymacky the macky Posts: 4,799member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post





    Unless the iPhone internally runs Lightning at higher than USB2 data rates, it's not going to help much, and only serve to create a problem for PC users who lack Thunderbolt (which is most of them). USB gives them the highest level of host compatibility.


     


    ...and here I thought that compatibility was accomplished via WI-FI and/or Bluetooth. This is a hard thing to grasp, but hooking cables up to a portable device is the last way you want to go.

  • Reply 53 of 139
    macky the mackymacky the macky Posts: 4,799member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kzbk81 View Post



    It's 'technical' way of making money out of microSD card sales. Can't the card be mounted in such a way that it is just an extended volume? May be they are afraid of a crashed OS when someone pulls the card away without un-mounting first.


    microSD cards are slow as molasses. If you have an app on there expect your device to slow down to glacieral speed. The built-in storage is much much faster.


     


    On another point, just adding the extra port for the microSD card slows down the device's execution whether there's a card in their or not. It's just bad HW design.


  • Reply 54 of 139
    macky the mackymacky the macky Posts: 4,799member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tribalogical View Post


     


    Although one could agree in principle, sort of, you kind of failed to mention they DOUBLE the memory per $100 increment… that's not just a "bump"...


     


    16GB -> 32GB -> 64GB -> 128GB in $100 increments (using iPad as an example).


     


    No-one will argue that Apple prices on RAM have always been on the high side. But I can vouch that it's top-flight memory that will rarely, if ever, have problems.


     


    Not sure if your point is really that valid, but ok...



     


    Apple flash memory is also designed to handle more re-writes than normal flash memory. It was the prime reason behind Apple's purchase of the Israeli company a few years back. One of these days this difference is going to raise its head in the news and then watch the heads come out of the sand.

  • Reply 55 of 139
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,330member


    8.5GB free space on a 16GB device? That's fucking ridiculous. I recall I had at LEAST 13.5GB free space on all my new 16GB iPhones. Talk about unoptimized junk software. Also, micro-managing SD storage is not that straightforward. An SD card has limitations compared to external memory. It makes everything from backup, to importing media, to saving things more cumbersome and complicated. On my older Acer Android phone, I was always running out of internal space, could barely install any apps apart from what it came with, and the Sd storage was utterly useless as most apps would not install on it. 


     


    Having HALF your advertised storage as free space is utterly inexcusable. Don't make a fucking 16GB version if you can only manage to have 8GB useable to the user. It shows contempt to the consumer. 

  • Reply 56 of 139
    makingdotsmakingdots Posts: 89member


    Bloated with unnecessary features. Just like Windows.


     


  • Reply 57 of 139
    kdarlingkdarling Posts: 1,640member


     



    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Macky the Macky View Post


    microSD cards are slow as molasses. If you have an app on there expect your device to slow down to glacieral speed. The built-in storage is much much faster.


     


    On another point, just adding the extra port for the microSD card slows down the device's execution whether there's a card in their or not. It's just bad HW design.




     


    None of that is true.


     


    Quote:


    Originally Posted by Mechanic View Post



    The nand flash reads and writes in the iPhone 5 at 400MB/s.


     


    That would be technically astonishing.  Source?

  • Reply 58 of 139
    timbittimbit Posts: 331member
    The fact that you can't install apps onto the SD card is a huge downside. I find 16 GB slightly too small but if I couldn't use the SD for apps I would be quite upset.
    I'll stick with Apple
  • Reply 59 of 139
    kdarlingkdarling Posts: 1,640member


    Hmm.  


     


    On a Nexus, I've got a couple hundred apps, and they've only taken up 3GB.   So the limit wouldn't hurt for that so much.


     


    However, I'd definitely need an SD card for video and snapshots.  I'm past 14GB for those.


     


    And if I were a new user and filled up the app space with media, I'd be upset.  It should've come with a n SD card.

  • Reply 60 of 139
    unicronunicron Posts: 154member


    Only 8GB to store apps... for the life of the phone? Is that for real??

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