I'd expect any Foxconn factories in the US to also be highly automated.
Labor is cheaper than automation in China. Automation is most likely cheaper than labor in the US.
That automation was why when Motorola needed to mass produce their Iridium satellites to quickly put up a fully capable constellation they grabbed the Mac production chief IIRC. Before then (and probably after...) satellites were hand built custom one-offs.
I think it's great Apple is bringing manufacturing back to the USA. Kudos.
I rip on Apple for a lack of new products and services when compared to Google and Android over the past year or so.
No, you don't. Stop rationalizing it. You troll Apple because it gives you joy. 100% of your posts here are negative, and nearly 100% are also mind-numbingly stupid and the very definition of a troll. I just spent a couple minutes skimming through them. A normal person, who shares your views, would have dropped all their Apple products and moved to something else, since you despise the company so much. Not spend their time trolling a company they hate. And yes, hate. You've spouted such mind-numbing drivel like predicting the imminent doom of the iPad, simply because Android tablets exist- even though all metrics show that iPad is still completely dominating sales. You mock Apple because they aren't licencing iOS, the worst move they can possibly make. You want Apple to fail, so twist everything so that they ARE failing in your reality. With with a positive story like this, your first reaction is mockery and sarcasm. It's beyond pathetic.
Why? Wouldn't a new iMac be a refresh of an existing product? A Mac Pro going in a new direction would be far closer to "new product" than "existing product", in my eyes.
he said new model. What new model would you expect for the iMac?
I think it's great Apple is bringing manufacturing back to the USA. Kudos.
I rip on Apple for a lack of new products and services when compared to Google and Android over the past year or so.
When we need them, they will come….
What "new products and services" are lacking exactly? I hear a lot of surface noise regarding Google and Android, but I don't actually see them doing anything more substantial in the end-product than Apple is… enlighten me?
I'd like to see a USA-made iMac that isn't glued together and allows user access to basic components like the fans and HDD. Even if it meant adding another 1 or (gasp!) 2mm to its side profile. Because sometimes the quest for thinness can lead down the path to absurdity.
I also think the most likely candidate for this 'new version of an existing product' is the Mac Pro.
In every way it makes sense. Lower volume, lower cost to ship/build BTO units (which most Mac Pros are), and a slower ramp to get manufacturing up to speed.
Investing only $100 million doesn't imply a very large scale ramp either, so if it's a product requiring high output in a quarter, it would cost more to put in place, one would think...
I'd like to see a USA-made iMac that isn't glued together and allows user access to basic components like the fans and HDD. Even if it meant adding another 1 or (gasp!) 2mm to its side profile. Because sometimes the quest for thinness can lead down the path to absurdity.
People do love moaning incessantly about Apple's design decisions… don't like it, don't buy it? But this may work for you, a new Mac Pro is coming that will likely allow you to 'customize' it to your liking… wait for it, and buy that one. The "all in one" iMac is what it is (and pretty extraordinary in my view). Personally I have no issue with it missing an optical drive, or not allowing end-user repairs and internal upgrades. Aside from the RAM, it's unlikely one would need to do anything else internally anyway...
People do love moaning incessantly about Apple's design decisions
Stating a personal preference is not moaning. Following your logic: Don't like my post? Don't read it.
It's "unlikely" to need internal access — until household dust buildup stops your fans, which then requires laborious disassembly. It's hardly contentious to say that at Apple real-world use occasionally takes a backseat to visually striking design.
The Mac Pro is significantly more expensive and has a far larger footprint than the iMac. It's not the suitable alternative that a user-accessible iMac would be.
Apple should do a big made in America advertising campaign sure China will still be producing the lions share of their products but if they could produce a couple of their marquee products "high line" versions in the US, maybe a state of the art desk top & iPhone 5" deluxe
I think it's great Apple is bringing manufacturing back to the USA. Kudos.
I rip on Apple for a lack of new products and services when compared to Google and Android over the past year or so.
Since 97% of Google's revenue comes from advertising, those mysterious producst must belong to the remaining 3%. Their main product is you doing a search and then clicking on the top line search result. Usually it's Amazon or Home Depot, or Walmart.
Since 97% of Google's revenue comes from advertising, those mysterious producst must belong to the remaining 3%. Their main product is you doing a search and then clicking on the top line search result. Usually it's Amazon or Home Depot, or Walmart.
The number of people who seem not to understand that Google is an advertising company astonishes me.
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Originally Posted by SockRolid
Apple's Fremont plant was highly automated.
I'd expect any Foxconn factories in the US to also be highly automated.
Labor is cheaper than automation in China. Automation is most likely cheaper than labor in the US.
That automation was why when Motorola needed to mass produce their Iridium satellites to quickly put up a fully capable constellation they grabbed the Mac production chief IIRC. Before then (and probably after...) satellites were hand built custom one-offs.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
The Mac Pro seems the most likely to me, too.
Because of the built-to-order nature of most Mac Pro purchases?
Yes, as well as all the other things mentioned, like cost, weight, and buyer location.
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Originally Posted by 512ke
I think it's great Apple is bringing manufacturing back to the USA. Kudos.
I rip on Apple for a lack of new products and services when compared to Google and Android over the past year or so.
No, you don't. Stop rationalizing it. You troll Apple because it gives you joy. 100% of your posts here are negative, and nearly 100% are also mind-numbingly stupid and the very definition of a troll. I just spent a couple minutes skimming through them. A normal person, who shares your views, would have dropped all their Apple products and moved to something else, since you despise the company so much. Not spend their time trolling a company they hate. And yes, hate. You've spouted such mind-numbing drivel like predicting the imminent doom of the iPad, simply because Android tablets exist- even though all metrics show that iPad is still completely dominating sales. You mock Apple because they aren't licencing iOS, the worst move they can possibly make. You want Apple to fail, so twist everything so that they ARE failing in your reality. With with a positive story like this, your first reaction is mockery and sarcasm. It's beyond pathetic.
Agreed drblank, if Honda, Toyota, BMW, etc., can build quality products using American workers....surely apple and other companies can do the same....
Quit trolling. Apparently you were sick during the entire fall season. Tell me, what did google release.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
he said new model. What new model would you expect for the iMac?
He actually said "...where the company will begin producing a new version of a current Mac product later this year."
Upgrading the cpu and gpu would still fall under the vague description of "new version"
cpu/gpu refresh in imac ,mac mini, macbooks to a new mac pro design would qualify under his statement.
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Originally Posted by 512ke
I think it's great Apple is bringing manufacturing back to the USA. Kudos.
I rip on Apple for a lack of new products and services when compared to Google and Android over the past year or so.
When we need them, they will come….
What "new products and services" are lacking exactly? I hear a lot of surface noise regarding Google and Android, but I don't actually see them doing anything more substantial in the end-product than Apple is… enlighten me?
I also think the most likely candidate for this 'new version of an existing product' is the Mac Pro.
In every way it makes sense. Lower volume, lower cost to ship/build BTO units (which most Mac Pros are), and a slower ramp to get manufacturing up to speed.
Investing only $100 million doesn't imply a very large scale ramp either, so if it's a product requiring high output in a quarter, it would cost more to put in place, one would think...
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Originally Posted by eji
I'd like to see a USA-made iMac that isn't glued together and allows user access to basic components like the fans and HDD. Even if it meant adding another 1 or (gasp!) 2mm to its side profile. Because sometimes the quest for thinness can lead down the path to absurdity.
People do love moaning incessantly about Apple's design decisions… don't like it, don't buy it? But this may work for you, a new Mac Pro is coming that will likely allow you to 'customize' it to your liking… wait for it, and buy that one. The "all in one" iMac is what it is (and pretty extraordinary in my view). Personally I have no issue with it missing an optical drive, or not allowing end-user repairs and internal upgrades. Aside from the RAM, it's unlikely one would need to do anything else internally anyway...
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Originally Posted by tribalogical
People do love moaning incessantly about Apple's design decisions
Stating a personal preference is not moaning. Following your logic: Don't like my post? Don't read it.
It's "unlikely" to need internal access — until household dust buildup stops your fans, which then requires laborious disassembly. It's hardly contentious to say that at Apple real-world use occasionally takes a backseat to visually striking design.
The Mac Pro is significantly more expensive and has a far larger footprint than the iMac. It's not the suitable alternative that a user-accessible iMac would be.
First damn sentence has a stupid typo. Why won't you proofread??
Since 97% of Google's revenue comes from advertising, those mysterious producst must belong to the remaining 3%. Their main product is you doing a search and then clicking on the top line search result. Usually it's Amazon or Home Depot, or Walmart.
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A refreshed product! Copy that, Samsung!
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I rip on Apple for a lack of new products and services when compared to Google and Android over the past year or so.
Yes, Jony Ive has his work cut out for him doesn't he?
I mean, revamping a UI is one thing but to get it to look as invisible as Key Lime Pie was at Google I/O will be a monumental task.
And how fricking thin was the new Nexus 5?
When you turn that thing sideways you almost couldn't see it!
Actually, come to think of it, when you turned it to the front it was also pretty hard to see...
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Since 97% of Google's revenue comes from advertising, those mysterious producst must belong to the remaining 3%. Their main product is you doing a search and then clicking on the top line search result. Usually it's Amazon or Home Depot, or Walmart.
The number of people who seem not to understand that Google is an advertising company astonishes me.