Just waiting for the usual suspects to show up telling us Apple's 5M ws a shipped number too and Samsung wouldn't ship 10M if they didn't expect to sell them.
That is actually how Apple reports its numbers. Although the channel inventory for Apple for companies like Wal-Mart, BestBuy etc is considerably lower. Last quarter I believe the ratio was 70/30 of the reported numbers. So Apple does indeed report shipped and not sold products, but they are clearing out inventory a whole lot faster than the likes of Samsung & Co.
This is the same group of reporters who ignore the FACT that in the USA Apple sold well over half of the smartphones at the dominant carriers (AT&T, Verizon & Sprint) last quarter. I see boards all over touting Android has 80% of the market but in the USA they have less than 40% in the past quarter. The articles from Jay Yarrow are usually pointed in that direction. I have no idea how the facts are outside the US, as carriers there do not report actual sales. I guess facts are just not part of reporting anymore....
Apple only HAD 5 Million units to actually sell. If they had more, they would have sold more. Plus, Apple didn't roll out the iPhone in all of their markets in the first day. Apple has only 200 carriers to sell through and Samsung has 800. With all due respect, Apple has a smaller market to market through with limited mfg capabilities.
And given all of that, why did it take 25 more days for Ssmsung to double the iPhone launch numbers. They should have been in a position to do it within the first week if not less.
This is the same group of reporters who ignore the FACT that in the USA Apple sold well over half of the smartphones at the dominant carriers (AT&T, Verizon & Sprint) last quarter. I see boards all over touting Android has 80% of the market but in the USA they have less than 40% in the past quarter. The articles from Jay Yarrow are usually pointed in that direction. I have no idea how the facts are outside the US, as carriers there do not report actual sales. I guess facts are just not part of reporting anymore....
Newsflash: the rest of the world is bigger than the US.
That reporter "Jay Yarow" obviously has something against Apple. I don't mind actually, media outlets are openly biased. At least you know before you start reading which way they lean. It's ones that pretend to be objective and *then* slant the news that I don't like.
And given all of that, why did it take 25 more days for Ssmsung to double the iPhone launch numbers. They should have been in a position to do it within the first week if not less.
Doesn't matter, they just have to outsell everyone else and that margin is much bigger than Apple's margin over Samsung.
That is actually how Apple reports its numbers. Although the channel inventory for Apple for companies like Wal-Mart, BestBuy etc is considerably lower. Last quarter I believe the ratio was 70/30 of the reported numbers. So Apple does indeed report shipped and not sold products, but they are clearing out inventory a whole lot faster than the likes of Samsung & Co.
Hmm...just curious which Apple stores or re-sellers had the iPhone 5 in stock on Saturday or Sunday of the weekend it came out. All I remember is it being sold out everywhere. I guess I'd be curious to know how much of the 5M in 3 days was channel inventory. My guess is none.
Today I can go to AT&T, Sprint and Best Buy and they all have the S4 in stock and available for delivery (or in store pickup).
Hmm...just curious which Apple stores or re-sellers had the iPhone 5 in stock on Saturday or Sunday of the weekend it came out. All I remember is it being sold out everywhere. I guess I'd be curious to know how much of the 5M in 3 days was channel inventory. My guess is none.
Today I can go to AT&T, Sprint and Best Buy and they all have the S4 in stock and available for delivery (or in store pickup).
How many people went through 2-3 iPhones 5 before settling on one because of scuffs?
How many people went through 2-3 iPhones 5 before settling on one because of scuffs?
So the 5M figure included returned devices? Or stores were out of stock because Apple couldn't make them fast enough? Again, my question is what % of the 5M in 3 days Apple reported was channel inventory compared to the same for Samsung's 10M in 30 days.
I've never used a Samsung phone. What is the hardware button for? With such a small bezel that button really seems out of place.
Also I love that the iPhone doesn't have any logo or branding on the front of the phone (especially no AT&T or Verizon logo!). I'd hate having to see the word Samsung every time I stared at my screen.
You all are missing a point which important it seems to me
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three chief executives told reporters that the company had shipped 6 million units to carriers globally and expected shipments to hit 10 million next week
It clearly says they shipped only 6 millions so far, 2 millions a week. and they expect to ship (not sell) 4 millions more in next week!
Is it me or do you have problems grasping the idea of how can it sell 4 mil in a week while it hasnt sold more than 2 per week?!
So samsung is just expecting (they wish!) to sell 10 milllions a month, not that the thing has happened that you argue about it
This implies that iOS 6 isn't good and/or that the Galaxy S4 has somehow done something that makes iOS 6 look bad. What in the S4 is something that is going to attract iPhone users away from the iPhone?
I am not talking specifically about Galaxy S4/TouchWiz filled Android (although I find some of their features to be attractive: eye-tracking(pause/play) / hand/hover gesture when my hands are wet / quick-pick / built in camera software). I am not saying I will be using them all the time, but choices/options are good when the right moment comes. Just like having flash enabled by default may not be good but having an option/ability to use it when I actually need it would be appreciated.
But, I am talking more in general about the latest version of Android.
To me at least it has been better in many ways than iOS 6. I think it may be too subjective so I will restrain myself from rambling further. You may agree or disagree, I don't really care. And you shouldn't care about my subjective opinion either.
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Much more misses than hits. Very Samsungesque
They're definitely beating the snot out of the other Android manufacturers. I'm glad you're glad.
He's like the Jesus of AI, trying to save lost souls... I mean trolls.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
Just waiting for the usual suspects to show up telling us Apple's 5M ws a shipped number too and Samsung wouldn't ship 10M if they didn't expect to sell them.
That is actually how Apple reports its numbers. Although the channel inventory for Apple for companies like Wal-Mart, BestBuy etc is considerably lower. Last quarter I believe the ratio was 70/30 of the reported numbers. So Apple does indeed report shipped and not sold products, but they are clearing out inventory a whole lot faster than the likes of Samsung & Co.
And given all of that, why did it take 25 more days for Ssmsung to double the iPhone launch numbers. They should have been in a position to do it within the first week if not less.
I'm hoping to get a Nobel Peace Prize for my contributions to AI.
Newsflash: the rest of the world is bigger than the US.
That reporter "Jay Yarow" obviously has something against Apple. I don't mind actually, media outlets are openly biased. At least you know before you start reading which way they lean. It's ones that pretend to be objective and *then* slant the news that I don't like.
Doesn't matter, they just have to outsell everyone else and that margin is much bigger than Apple's margin over Samsung.
Today I can go to AT&T, Sprint and Best Buy and they all have the S4 in stock and available for delivery (or in store pickup).
How many people went through 2-3 iPhones 5 before settling on one because of scuffs?
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Originally Posted by AZREOSpecialist
Analysts are crazy about Samsung because Samsung can only go up...
...If all we see by then are recycled designs and nothing really new...
Samsung is where Nokia was.
Samsung will be in trouble, recycled designs playing catch up with HTC and Sony.
Also I love that the iPhone doesn't have any logo or branding on the front of the phone (especially no AT&T or Verizon logo!). I'd hate having to see the word Samsung every time I stared at my screen.
You all are missing a point which important it seems to me
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three chief executives told reporters that the company had shipped 6 million units to carriers globally and expected shipments to hit 10 million next week
It clearly says they shipped only 6 millions so far, 2 millions a week. and they expect to ship (not sell) 4 millions more in next week!
Is it me or do you have problems grasping the idea of how can it sell 4 mil in a week while it hasnt sold more than 2 per week?!
So samsung is just expecting (they wish!) to sell 10 milllions a month, not that the thing has happened that you argue about it
I think the market is fairly concentrated these days even more than when iPhone 5 came out.
Be it iPhone 5/4s, Galaxy S3/Note 2, ONE, Nexus 4, Xperia Z, Optimus G Pro, all of them seem to perform well for most of common tasks...
Frankly, probably each has more cpu/gpu power than those smartphone sized/compatible apps may demand.
I think it is quite impressive that Galaxy S4 can still fight well against other competitors even when many consumers find no need to switch,
and am wondering how many people would stick to iPhone for its next cycle soon.
iOS 7 better be good this time.
This implies that iOS 6 isn't good and/or that the Galaxy S4 has somehow done something that makes iOS 6 look bad. What in the S4 is something that is going to attract iPhone users away from the iPhone?
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
I'd hate having to see the word Samsung every time I stared at my screen.
Why not, it may remind you of your washing machine!
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I am not talking specifically about Galaxy S4/TouchWiz filled Android (although I find some of their features to be attractive: eye-tracking(pause/play) / hand/hover gesture when my hands are wet / quick-pick / built in camera software). I am not saying I will be using them all the time, but choices/options are good when the right moment comes. Just like having flash enabled by default may not be good but having an option/ability to use it when I actually need it would be appreciated.
But, I am talking more in general about the latest version of Android.
To me at least it has been better in many ways than iOS 6. I think it may be too subjective so I will restrain myself from rambling further. You may agree or disagree, I don't really care. And you shouldn't care about my subjective opinion either.