The percentages of difference are so small they seem insignificant.
Bad data presentation (not tufte-esque)
the percentages are internal meaningless to the comparison other than to show that on 'average' android
users have the same basic pattern as iOS users
... the big deal is 49min<<75min
These fonts are 1:1.5 proportional. Hardly insignificant.
while correllation is not causation, some things to consider
a) it takes more time on an iphone to do a similar task (doubtful)
b) people with iPhones have particular jobs they want their mobile phone to do, and buy the phone for that
people buying android phones have no particular job for the phone, therefore just use it as a clock and a phone.
read: android users may be 'gadget' people, with a phone, a tablet, a laptop and a desktop, each with a job.
c) iPhone users have a need to be more connected to the internet (possibly pathological... an 'attachment disorder')
iOS phones are a 'needle' to deliver a 'drug'
d) as a status bauble.... seen using an iPhone is more important than having it your pocket....
e) because of the cost, and possibly ease of use, people commit to being a 'mobile internet' user when buying an iPhone, whereas a majority of Android devices are bought because of the 'occasional' need of mobile computing, but it's a price/phone-call decision... it's a phone with internet... vs a pocket mobile computer with a phone app.
B and E are my biased opinion. I had 'gadgets' (psions, ipods, palms, laptops, pagers, and a phone). I needed email, calendaring linked to my home and work accounts, as well as tight integration to my ITMS). the iPhone (3G... my first phone), met my needs. I had a 4 and now a 4S, buying every 18 months (handing down/selling my phone when doing so... so resale is another value).
I'd be curious if the stats for Android can be
1) broken down by OS version
2) by phone type (Galaxy III IV, Nexus , HTC 1 etc)
So this survey is ONLY of the Android users that actually use their devices, right? Because 90% of the devices in use are iOS devices (across the board), and since Android has shipped, what 60% of the market, that means there's no way they're spending less than 1 second using it on average across the board.
Using the device is a great reason not to buy one.
You idiots need to just shut up and go away. I mean, my STARS. Do you really expect us not to notice this stuff?
They expect you to notice it. And they expect you to react to it.
Android users spend more time visiting websites because they are constantly surfing the help sections of the Android support site.
That brings up an interesting question. How hard would it be to take assess the iOS v. Android user populations by counting the number of community sites and their membership?
I imagine some sites would decline to provide statistics because they would be loath to provide advertisers a real measure of their reach?
Lots of feature phone user are upgrading to cheap android devices and dont used there "smartphone" part. Will be more interesting to see stats between lets say an iphone 5 and a S3.
40 years ago, it was rare for non-rich people to have a fax, or even a copier at home, but phones were considered a public good, every home had a phone line to it. Eventually, it became part of the fabric of the economy... S3/iP5 users are still the small % of people who want that connectivity... Eventually, it will be an economic imperative for everyone to 'use' the non-phone aspects, and that will be the tipping point. Economic membership drove phone/fax/cell-phone use, and eventually, the economic imperative of the INTERNET will drive mobile device use beyond the phone dial pad on your 'cell phone'
As this moves forward, and Internet becomes the new phone line (you can't do anything over a phone.. you must have an internet connection). Think about banking... all banking was done face to face, then it was done by phone, then by debit card/kiosk... soon, it will be fully internet driven. Shopping is going that way (amazon).
F2F, Couriered paper, and the Fax machine are the oldest (it was a variation of a telegraph) networking tools still in existence. FaceTime/VideoPhone will replace the first, secure documents via strong encryption the 2nd (and 3rd), and and secure apps the 3rd. The public library/hotel business center computer kiosk is now the new 'phone booth'
Smartphones (in reality, ubuiqituous internet connectivity that include realtime person to person audio communications) will be the norm in 30 years.
<p style="margin-bottom:.46cm;">These AI statements constitute one of the most outrageous outward signs of Apple fanboyism madness !</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:.46cm;">It is thereby demonstrated that the suspicious intimate companionship developed with Apple devices twists judgment (which demonstrates how dangerous these things can be for mental health).</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:.46cm;">Wake up ! Open your eyes ! Consider the reality of Foxconn’s plant ! Starting at the age of five, Chineese children are forced to work for Foxconn, 48 Hours a day, and they have to pay Foxconn for this ! They eat gravel ! Fifty of them commonly live in a shoe box in the bottom of a lake !</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:.46cm;">AppleStore employees have to stand pouring rain, just because greedy employer Apple wants to save the cost of fixing the leakage !</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:.46cm;">Apple financial situation is so dramatic that they have to borrow money to pay the dividend !</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:.46cm;">Apple engineers are unable to master true multitasking ! And enable displaying more than one window at once ! Isn't that pathetic ?</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:.46cm;">Apple prefer to pay taxes in socialist countries like France (where arrogant local lazzy employees (natives) live on other people hard work), rather than paying taxes to the US government !</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:.46cm;">Let me tell ya, I have to make heroic efforts to stay within the limits of British decency (pretty strict, as you may know), as well as (incidentally) the ones governing ban on this site. Suffice it to say that I suspect you are nothing but an active Apple lobbyist, and I will report this to the Posts Misconducts Resource Center (PMRC), so that you end up in the place where you should be trapped (the Apple ecosystem, you know, the one where « the guy with the horns and pointed stick conducts his business », as F. Zappa quotes).</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:.46cm;">I think that's all. Finished now !</p>
Lots of feature phone user are upgrading to cheap android devices and dont used there "smartphone" part. Will be more interesting to see stats between lets say an iphone 5 and a S3.
Bad data presentation (not tufte-esque)
the percentages are internal meaningless to the comparison other than to show that on 'average' android
users have the same basic pattern as iOS users
... the big deal is [SIZE=24px]49min[/SIZE] [SIZE=14px]<<[/SIZE] [SIZE=36px]75min [/SIZE]
<span style="font-size:12px;line-height:14px;">These fonts are 1:1.5 proportional. Hardly insignificant.</span>
<span style="font-size:12px;line-height:14px;">while correllation is not causation, some things to consider</span>
<span style="font-size:12px;line-height:14px;">a) it takes more time on an iphone to do a similar task (doubtful)</span>
<span style="font-size:12px;line-height:14px;">b) people with iPhones have particular jobs they want their mobile phone to do, and buy the phone for that</span>
<span style="font-size:12px;line-height:14px;"> people buying android phones have no particular job for the phone, therefore just use it as a clock and a phone.</span>
read: android users may be 'gadget' people, with a phone, a tablet, a laptop and a desktop, each with a job.
<span style="font-size:12px;line-height:14px;">c) iPhone users have a need to be more connected to the internet (possibly pathological... an 'attachment disorder')</span>
iOS phones are a 'needle' to deliver a 'drug'
d) as a status bauble.... seen using an iPhone is more important than having it your pocket....
e) because of the cost, and possibly ease of use, people commit to being a 'mobile internet' user when buying an iPhone, whereas a majority of Android devices are bought because of the 'occasional' need of mobile computing, but it's a price/phone-call decision... it's a phone with internet... vs a pocket mobile computer with a phone app.
B and E are my biased opinion. I had 'gadgets' (psions, ipods, palms, laptops, pagers, and a phone). I needed email, calendaring linked to my home and work accounts, as well as tight integration to my ITMS). the iPhone (3G... my first phone), met my needs. I had a 4 and now a 4S, buying every 18 months (handing down/selling my phone when doing so... so resale is another value).
I'd be curious if the stats for Android can be
1) broken down by OS version
2) by phone type (Galaxy III IV, Nexus , HTC 1 etc)
to see if price or feature set skews the numbers.
I think you can put to rest the status symbol cliche, at least in the west. iPhones are just as affordable in the US at least where they are heavily subsidized by the carriers, or paid for using interest free loans in the case of T Mobile. This levels the playing field cost-wise. People purchase for different reasons, and it doesn't matter what they decide to use it for nor does it give anyone the right to judge because one person likes to text while another surfs the net. I prefer the IPhone, but don't care if someone else doesn't.
Lots of feature phone user are upgrading to cheap android devices and dont used there "smartphone" part. Will be more interesting to see stats between lets say an iphone 5 and a S3.
The same could be said for the iPhone. I know plenty of people that use their iPhones as a glorified feature phone.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by evilmushroom
I use my Android phone even less now that I have Glass.
(before I get flamed for posting here; I develop for both Android and Glass using OSX 'cause it is a great development platform)
I wanna puke!
Quote:
Originally Posted by umrk_lab
These AI statements constitute one of the most outrageous outward signs of Apple fanboyism madness !
I think that's all. Finished now !
You forgot to mention that Apple tricks old people into 20 year contracts and charges them $100 every time they phone the help line.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrrodriguez
The percentages of difference are so small they seem insignificant.
Bad data presentation (not tufte-esque)
the percentages are internal meaningless to the comparison other than to show that on 'average' android
users have the same basic pattern as iOS users
... the big deal is 49min << 75min
These fonts are 1:1.5 proportional. Hardly insignificant.
while correllation is not causation, some things to consider
a) it takes more time on an iphone to do a similar task (doubtful)
b) people with iPhones have particular jobs they want their mobile phone to do, and buy the phone for that
people buying android phones have no particular job for the phone, therefore just use it as a clock and a phone.
read: android users may be 'gadget' people, with a phone, a tablet, a laptop and a desktop, each with a job.
c) iPhone users have a need to be more connected to the internet (possibly pathological... an 'attachment disorder')
iOS phones are a 'needle' to deliver a 'drug'
d) as a status bauble.... seen using an iPhone is more important than having it your pocket....
e) because of the cost, and possibly ease of use, people commit to being a 'mobile internet' user when buying an iPhone, whereas a majority of Android devices are bought because of the 'occasional' need of mobile computing, but it's a price/phone-call decision... it's a phone with internet... vs a pocket mobile computer with a phone app.
B and E are my biased opinion. I had 'gadgets' (psions, ipods, palms, laptops, pagers, and a phone). I needed email, calendaring linked to my home and work accounts, as well as tight integration to my ITMS). the iPhone (3G... my first phone), met my needs. I had a 4 and now a 4S, buying every 18 months (handing down/selling my phone when doing so... so resale is another value).
I'd be curious if the stats for Android can be
1) broken down by OS version
2) by phone type (Galaxy III IV, Nexus , HTC 1 etc)
to see if price or feature set skews the numbers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jungmark
If I read this right, Androiders spend more time visiting websites but we all know iOS users get way more ad impressions.
I also assume "hacking" is in the "other" grouping because we know Androiders love playing with their "open" devices. /s
Android users spend more time visiting websites because they are constantly surfing the help sections of the Android support site.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
So this survey is ONLY of the Android users that actually use their devices, right? Because 90% of the devices in use are iOS devices (across the board), and since Android has shipped, what 60% of the market, that means there's no way they're spending less than 1 second using it on average across the board.
Using the device is a great reason not to buy one.
You idiots need to just shut up and go away. I mean, my STARS. Do you really expect us not to notice this stuff?
They expect you to notice it. And they expect you to react to it.
Originally Posted by umrk_lab
Wake up ! Open your eyes !
So close to a "sheeple" and yet so far.
Originally Posted by StruckPaper
And they expect you to react to it.
Good luck getting us to believe it. That's their point.
Quote:
Originally Posted by island hermit
Android users spend more time visiting websites because they are constantly surfing the help sections of the Android support site.
That brings up an interesting question. How hard would it be to take assess the iOS v. Android user populations by counting the number of community sites and their membership?
I imagine some sites would decline to provide statistics because they would be loath to provide advertisers a real measure of their reach?
Quote:
Originally Posted by island hermit
You forgot to mention that Apple tricks old people into 20 year contracts and charges them $100 every time they phone the help line.
How can old people call the help line if the iPhone isn't working? /s
Quote:
Originally Posted by ged
great reason to not buy one, if you ask me.
You realise how dumb this comment is (one) when referring to an article that's a comparison between two things?
If on the other hand by "one" you mean "cellphones," then ... WTF?
But.. but.. this doesn't include tinkering and staring at the homescreen right?
Quote:
Originally Posted by herbapou
Lots of feature phone user are upgrading to cheap android devices and dont used there "smartphone" part. Will be more interesting to see stats between lets say an iphone 5 and a S3.
40 years ago, it was rare for non-rich people to have a fax, or even a copier at home, but phones were considered a public good, every home had a phone line to it. Eventually, it became part of the fabric of the economy... S3/iP5 users are still the small % of people who want that connectivity... Eventually, it will be an economic imperative for everyone to 'use' the non-phone aspects, and that will be the tipping point. Economic membership drove phone/fax/cell-phone use, and eventually, the economic imperative of the INTERNET will drive mobile device use beyond the phone dial pad on your 'cell phone'
As this moves forward, and Internet becomes the new phone line (you can't do anything over a phone.. you must have an internet connection). Think about banking... all banking was done face to face, then it was done by phone, then by debit card/kiosk... soon, it will be fully internet driven. Shopping is going that way (amazon).
F2F, Couriered paper, and the Fax machine are the oldest (it was a variation of a telegraph) networking tools still in existence. FaceTime/VideoPhone will replace the first, secure documents via strong encryption the 2nd (and 3rd), and and secure apps the 3rd. The public library/hotel business center computer kiosk is now the new 'phone booth'
Smartphones (in reality, ubuiqituous internet connectivity that include realtime person to person audio communications) will be the norm in 30 years.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jungmark
If I read this right, Androiders spend more time visiting websites but we all know iOS users get way more ad impressions.
I also assume "hacking" is in the "other" grouping because we know Androiders love playing with their "open" devices. /s
16% of 49 minutes is a smaller number than 12% of 75 minutes.
Huh?
The last study showed it was almost 50/50.
I think you can put to rest the status symbol cliche, at least in the west. iPhones are just as affordable in the US at least where they are heavily subsidized by the carriers, or paid for using interest free loans in the case of T Mobile. This levels the playing field cost-wise. People purchase for different reasons, and it doesn't matter what they decide to use it for nor does it give anyone the right to judge because one person likes to text while another surfs the net. I prefer the IPhone, but don't care if someone else doesn't.
/s
Edit: beaten to that particular joke... damned.
@solipsismx: they might actually be right there. My boss dictates everything on his S4, while I type and the autocorrect on iPhone.... annoys me.
The same could be said for the iPhone. I know plenty of people that use their iPhones as a glorified feature phone.