Samsung, Google to scale back giant screen sizes on new Android phones

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  • Reply 61 of 144
    majjomajjo Posts: 574member
    So let me get this straight:

    S3 mini to S4 mini increased screen size from 4" to 4.3"

    S3 to S4
    increased screen size from 4.8" to 5"

    Note 2 to Note 3
    increased screen size from 5.5" to 5.9"

    Yet this indicates that they're moving away from giant screens?

    May I have some of what you're smoking please?
  • Reply 62 of 144
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AZREOSpecialist View Post


    I love the mock journalism here at AI. What a misleading headline! Samsung is doing the right thing by differentiating its products and addressing multiple segments with different sized screens. Everybody wants options. Tim Cook said that customers pay Apple to make certain decisions for them. Sure, but I'm not an Apple customer because I want Apple to limit my options when it comes to basic things like screen sizes. Especially from a company that was the first to market a 17" laptop before anyone else, and first to mainstream a 30" display. I expect Apple to lead here, and it should have been Apple that was first to offer a larger screen size - not its competitors. What a missed opportunity.


     


    You see, Mr. Cook, there are 20-somethings. Then there are 30-somethings. Then there are those of us who are 40-somethings who would like a larger screen so that we can actually read it.



     


    It's clearly marked "EDITORIAL" why don't you go find out what that means, although "mock journalism" is already a fairly apt definition.


     


    btw it's not the size of the screen, it's the size of the text on the screen which affects readability.

  • Reply 63 of 144
    mercury99mercury99 Posts: 251member
    studentx wrote: »
    "What's so hard about making smaller high-end phones?" he asked, noting that Apple's iPhone 5 is "the only high-end smartphone smaller than 4.3-inches."

    Easy, it's hard to pack all the power and battery life the iPhone 5 has into that small of a form factor, which is they "Samsung" can't seem to make one.

    Big is easy to slap together. Small is hard.
    iOS device has better battery life over Android device for a reason. iOS has less features, less customization, less multitasking. As result, the battery life comes to an iPhone user at the cost. Basic example: Safari can't use plugins, and it has to refresh when you switch between tabs.
  • Reply 64 of 144
    sockrolidsockrolid Posts: 2,788member


    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post



    Google's influence at Motorola is also resulting in a shift from "bigger is better" to simply "better is better," according to a report by Sascha Segan of PC Mag.


     


    Samsung:


    How can we trick consumers into thinking that our Galaxy phones are actually better than iPhone in any way?  AHA!  We'll make them really big.  Apple would never do that because it would be a hideous pain for their developers to update all those pixel-perfect apps.  But we don't care about quality.  Android apps are dog butt ugly already.  Everyone already knows that.  Let's make oversized Galaxies!  Sucker born every minute!


     


    Motorola:


    Dang.  There's no way we can compete against Apple.  Or even Samsung.  Oh well.  Life in the big city.  But how are we going to earn back that $12.5 billion that Google paid for us?  AHA!  We'll just kind of stick with Apple's wildly successful iPhone form factor, and one-up Samsung by shipping a smaller phone.  They've left us (and Apple) a "size umbrella."  We'll sneak in and offer pocket-sized phones like Apple does.  That's the ticket!


     


    Samsung:


    Uh oh.  Our industrial spies tell us that Motorola is working on a smaller Android phone.  We'd better copy that to keep Motorola in the red.  We'll call it the "Galaxy Mini."  It will be an all-new, pocket-sized Galaxy.  It will help us keep Motorola out of the picture, and ensure that we remain the only profitable Android handset maker.  What a plan!

  • Reply 65 of 144
    Waaaa, somebody said something negative about google and their 12+ billion dollar mistake motorola.

    Kudos DED for another great article. It sure got the trolls' panties quite twisted. Their whining has been very entertaining (there're too many good ones to bother quoting them). You are truly gifted!

    I can picture them now in their google offices, furiously g-chatting each other: "OMG guyz, I can't believe what DED just said!!"
  • Reply 66 of 144
    In another word, they made a mistake. Next...
  • Reply 67 of 144
    wakefinancewakefinance Posts: 855member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pedromartins View Post


    And the iPad was beautiful engineered and beats all tablets on battery life by a huge margin.


    The s4 has a 3x bigger battery than the iPhone and loses on every single test with the screen on.



     


    Actually the S4's battery is only 1.8 times larger than the iPhone's.  The iPhone 5 has superior battery life for web browsing but not for talk time or for creating a WiFi hotspot.


     


    http://www.anandtech.com/show/6914/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/2

  • Reply 67 of 144
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member


    Originally Posted by Splash-reverse View Post

    In another word, they made a mistake. Next...




    Sort of a leviathan "mistake", and not just as a pun about the fact that this relates to size.


     


    Provided this IS a trend, it's backpedaling to a level that makes Intel's backpedaling on clock speeds look like a silent fart on stage.

  • Reply 69 of 144
    majjomajjo Posts: 574member

    Sort of a leviathan "mistake", and not just as a pun about the fact that this relates to size.

    Provided this IS a trend, it's backpedaling to a level that makes Intel's backpedaling on clock speeds look like a silent fart on stage.

    Since the trend is to increase screen size generation to generation, how is it backpedaling at all?
  • Reply 70 of 144
    paul94544paul94544 Posts: 1,027member


    Are any of you people actually employed?

  • Reply 71 of 144
    macrulezmacrulez Posts: 2,455member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by umrk_lab View Post


    What about this headline : "Galaxy S3 explode" ?



     


    iPhone 4 explodes, burns man’s hand


    http://bgr.com/2011/02/17/iphone-4-explodes-burns-mans-hand-video/


     


    Ever See An Exploding iPhone? I Have Now


    http://www.runaroundtech.com/2012/04/09/every-see-an-exploding-iphone-i-have-now/


     


    iPhone battery explodes mid-hardware unlock


    http://www.iphonebuzz.com/iphone-battery-explodes-mid-hardware-unlock-041469.php


     


    4-year-old daughter’s iPhone exploded


    http://zagossip.com/2013/04/14/4-year-old-daughters-iphone-exploded/


     


    More battery issues for Apple as iPhone explodes


    http://www.thetechherald.com/articles/More-battery-issues-for-Apple-as-iPhone-explodes




    Another iPhone Exploded in Brazil: No Reaction from Apple


    http://www.coldscoop.com/2011/12/01/another-iphone-exploded-in-brazil-no-reaction-from-apple/


     


     



     



     


     



     


     



     


     



     


     


  • Reply 72 of 144
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member


    Originally Posted by majjo View Post

    Since the trend is to increase screen size generation to generation, how is it backpedaling at all?


     


    How in the world… 





    Originally Posted by MacRulez View Post

    iPhone 4 explodes, burns man’s hand


    http://bgr.com/2011/02/17/iphone-4-explodes-burns-mans-hand-video/



     


    Which makes it a non-issue for both sides, given that they're sabotage.

  • Reply 73 of 144
    majjomajjo Posts: 574member
    How in the world… 

    majjo wrote: »

    S3 mini to S4 mini
    increased screen size from 4" to 4.3"

    S3 to S4
    increased screen size from 4.8" to 5"

    Note 2 to Note 3
    increased screen size from 5.5" to 5.9"
  • Reply 74 of 144
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member


    Originally Posted by majjo View Post

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    What is the article about… ????

  • Reply 75 of 144
    majjomajjo Posts: 574member
    What is the article about… <span style="font-family:'Apple Color Emoji';font-size:28px;line-height:normal;">????</span>

    Well DED starts off trying to spin the S4 mini as Samsung moving away from 'giant screens.'

    Then he goes off rambling about the Newton without ever approaching anything near a point; much less the point he was trying so hard to make with his title.
  • Reply 76 of 144
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AZREOSpecialist View Post


    I love the mock journalism here at AI. What a misleading headline! Samsung is doing the right thing by differentiating its products and addressing multiple segments with different sized screens. Everybody wants options. Tim Cook said that customers pay Apple to make certain decisions for them. Sure, but I'm not an Apple customer because I want Apple to limit my options when it comes to basic things like screen sizes. Especially from a company that was the first to market a 17" laptop before anyone else, and first to mainstream a 30" display. I expect Apple to lead here, and it should have been Apple that was first to offer a larger screen size - not its competitors. What a missed opportunity.


     


    You see, Mr. Cook, there are 20-somethings. Then there are 30-somethings. Then there are those of us who are 40-somethings who would like a larger screen so that we can actually read it.



    They offer a larger screen size now, the superior in area LTE iPad mini.

  • Reply 77 of 144


    Why don't you do a Google search. You will find many articles about Iphones exploding including the Iphone 5. I can find plenty of other articles regarding various flaws and defects with Iphones. Remember the recent poor battery life issues caused by a recent IOS update Apple rolled out. Don't forget the recent fiasco with Apple maps. Oh and what about the antenna issues on the 4S. Want me to keep going. Your precious Iphones, which by the way contain alot of Samsung hardware inside are JUST as flawed as many of their competitors products. Get off your high horse and accept your Iphone products have the ability to be just a crappy and everyone elses products.

     

  • Reply 78 of 144
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joe Dirte View Post


    Oh and what about the antenna issues on the 4S. Want me to keep going.



     


    That was the 4.


     


    Try and get it right.


     


    No, I don't want you to keep going.


     


    Do you know what is most pathetic.


     


    vizionx1208, with the exploded S3 battery seems almost apologetic over something that wasn't their fault, knowing full well that ANY criticism of Android or Samsung usually results in a torrent of abuse, whereas with Apple products there's baying for blood and it doesn't take long to get splashed across the front pages of mainstream media.


     


    It must be upsetting for Samsung that NO-ONE CARES.

  • Reply 79 of 144
    michael scripmichael scrip Posts: 1,912member
    runbuh wrote: »
    Samsung had the S3, the smaller screened S3 mini, and the larger screened Note II. Now they have the S4, S4 mini, and the rumored Note III. How is this a shift away from larger screens? Seems like they are just continuing to update their product line.

    And the mini's 4.3" screen size is still larger than the iPhone 5's 4".

    Well - I guess AI got what they wanted. They post a BS headline and we all come here to whine and trade jabs while AI just enjoys the traffic it generates.

    majjo wrote: »
    So let me get this straight:

    S3 mini to S4 mini increased screen size from 4" to 4.3"

    S3 to S4
    increased screen size from 4.8" to 5"

    Note 2 to Note 3
    increased screen size from 5.5" to 5.9"

    Yet this indicates that they're moving away from giant screens?

    May I have some of what you're smoking please?

    The Galaxy S and the Galaxy Note are just two of the models Samsung makes.

    Now think about the other 50 models Samsung makes and see what the average size is.
  • Reply 80 of 144
    runbuhrunbuh Posts: 315member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Michael Scrip View Post







    The Galaxy S and the Galaxy Note are just two of the models Samsung makes.



    Now think about the other 50 models Samsung makes and see what the average size is.


    I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with your comment.


     


    The article was about Samsung backing away from larger screens based on the recent announcement of the S4 mini with the 4.3" screen.  That's only one data point.  You reference potentially more data points, but what they reflect is a broad (too broad?) product line of newer/older technology, faster/slower processors, larger/smaller screens, etc.  Not a specific direction, just a ton of fragmentation.


     


    In the last six months, what truly new phones has Samsung introduced that have screens smaller than 4.3"?  I don't track Samsung phones, so I'm only aware of the S4, S4 mini, S4 zoom (rumor), S4 active (rumor), and Note III.  None of them have a screen size smaller than 4.3".  Even if they introduce an Android phone with a 3" screen, it still proves nothing about their long term direction.  Their past lineup included smaller and larger screens, their current lineup includes smaller and larger screens, therefore a single larger or smaller screen data point proves nothing by itself.  We'll have to watch the long term.


     


    What are folks going to say about this supposed trend towards smaller screens if/when the S4 active or Note III is introduced?  "Samsung fails at small screen devices and flip/flops back to large screen devices" (that's what AI will say), or the more realistic "Samsung continues to push out every type of Android phone they can, to hell with fragmentation"?

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