I can see a very shortneck 17" CRT coming to the iMac. But I also think the new form factor will be drastically different than what the iMac is now. But Apple needs to keep it simple if they want to keep the price down and still keep the appeal that made the original iMac such a hit. A modular iMac is not an iMac.
Actually there are no legal concerns regarding publishing photos on the net. The only 'legal' concern is that companies will try to scare news sources into submission with a mountain of litigation. Even though the site would win, they likely wouldn't risk the cost. The precedent alread exists with Ford.Mo.Co. They tried to stop the publication of 'spy' photos, bat the courts basically told them 'no dice.' It's news, it can be printed. People under NDA, have legal onbligations, but the publishers themselves aren't restricted by an NDA. If they obtain the info, they can publish it.
Pro iMac? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
I'll buy the fact of an LCD, landing in the sweet spot for iMac pricing ($1300, give or take). I'll buy the G4. I'll even buy the SuperDrive if it's in the $1600 SE model.
[quote]However, I don't think that 15" CRTs don't cut it anymore..<snip>...In my opinion, a 15" flat CRT that can do 1024x768 at 95+Hz would be perfect and significantly more cost effective than an LCD iMac.<hr></blockquote>
Right on.
If they could flatten that CRT out, losing the "fishbowl" syndrome the current screen has, that would be almost as good as an LCD iMac IMO.
I think they iMac is still a pretty great machine, maybe a little overpriced now, but it would be GREAT to have a flat-screen CRT at least. I know after a day of using an iMac, my old, 2 steps away from the scrap heap 17" monitor with my PC starts to look like a flat 19"er in comparison!
i think the worst thing they could do is kill the CRT iMac...... i would like to see something like a flat panel imac out there (though i liked the cube too), but LCD displays are just not tough enough (or cheap enough) for many school enviroments. Apple is not in the position to risk losing more sales to schools. giving individual students laptops is one thing, having flat panel imacs in clusters running all day with millions of kids screwing with them sounds like a nightmare.
the iMac line could use something to refresh it, but i think the basic unit is still as valid as it was day 1. people new to computers are drawn to it, and old timers still buy them for their clean design.
anyway, while i would bet my G4 there is something LIKE a flat panel imac or cube2 coming, i dont know if it will really replace the current iMac case. calling it a "pro-iMac" makes it sounds like another try at the cube project. hopefully this one can be at a better price range for the target users.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Your point is interesting.
However , like they did before for the i book, they can release a very strong LCD i mac. The main problem is the prize. I am nearly sure that in the future all Mac will have LCD. All Apple's screen are LCD now, there is no reason that the I mac will not turn to LCD either.
How about with a wireless av cable. So you can hook up your iMac to your tv and watch movies or surf, without having to run those prehistoric "cables" my grandfather told me about.
I'm not sure if you've seen it, but *once and a while* I get this pop up ad about a wirless video camera...*maybe you've seen it*?
*- denotes HEAVY sarcasm.
Now arguments that we should skin all spamers and dip them thrice daily in pools of magma aside...(what argument?) I was thinking you could couple a wireless keyboard and mouse to the iMac, and then have the iMac broadcast the signal to the tv.
I could do this for $200 CDN ($3.17 US) today... but with that rental software from Microsoft I'm not to keen on investing a single penny in my PC anymore; which would make a nice whatever as soon as an Apple machine that fits my need comes along.
ha ha ha! Mine still is! I thought the cable thing was so old fashioned. So my wife and I set up a wirless video content stream! (we're pretty geeky) Not only do we have full screen full motion video (try that media player!) but our wireless connection is free!
<strong>Then why are so many schools lately buying laptops if CRTs the way to go for schools?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Different machines. A laptop fills a different need in schools. But for what they're used for, school's *desktop* machines don't need LCDs. 90% of what any student will do on his iMac is word processing.
i think the worst thing they could do is kill the CRT iMac...... i would like to see something like a flat panel imac out there (though i liked the cube too), but LCD displays are just not tough enough (or cheap enough) for many school enviroments.
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Price is a valid concern for schools but as far as not being tough enough why not just build in a glass protective screen over the LCD to protect it?
No wireless has that bandwidth. You wanna get fried?</strong><hr></blockquote>
never seen the wireless link for sony camcorders?
[quote]Different machines. A laptop fills a different need in schools. But for what they're used for, school's *desktop* machines don't need LCDs. 90% of what any student will do on his iMac is word processing. <hr></blockquote>
desktop machines need to last, have as small a footprint as possible, be clearly readible, etc. Schools don't NEED computers. But they have em. LCDs are a logical progression of technology. Schools don't NEED more than an old iMac but they get em.
and BTW, I haven't seen a student doing word processing in a K-5 schools in years. schools don't buy thousands of dollars of new computers every 3 years to have spellcheck run faster
Different machines. A laptop fills a different need in schools. But for what they're used for, school's *desktop* machines don't need LCDs. 90% of what any student will do on his iMac is word processing.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Different machines. A laptop fills a different need in schools. But for what they're used for, school's *desktop* machines don't need LCDs. 90% of what any student will do on his iMac is word processing.
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So what? LCDs are not good for Word Processing? Of course they are. Your still looking at the screen, and LCDs are better for your eyes...specially for those young lil kiddies with their precious lil eyes blah blah.
I know the owner of yourdailymac.com, I haven't seen the photographs of the LCD iMac myself, but I do think the guy does have them... he says he is just waiting for his 'sources' to allow him to post them.
<strong>I know the owner of yourdailymac.com, I haven't seen the photographs of the LCD iMac myself, but I do think the guy does have them... he says he is just waiting for his 'sources' to allow him to post them.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I hope your right, cuz I wanna see those pics! Knowing Apple, they'll make the site take them down, so make sure you download the pics once they get up there.
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I'll buy the fact of an LCD, landing in the sweet spot for iMac pricing ($1300, give or take). I'll buy the G4. I'll even buy the SuperDrive if it's in the $1600 SE model.
The rest is BS.
Right on.
If they could flatten that CRT out, losing the "fishbowl" syndrome the current screen has, that would be almost as good as an LCD iMac IMO.
I think they iMac is still a pretty great machine, maybe a little overpriced now, but it would be GREAT to have a flat-screen CRT at least. I know after a day of using an iMac, my old, 2 steps away from the scrap heap 17" monitor with my PC starts to look like a flat 19"er in comparison!
- 1.0 Ghz G3 ("Saharah" probably)
- 15" LCD
- 32MB GeForce 2mx or 2mx Ti 200 or Radeon VE
- CD-RW/DVD Combo drive
- 2-button mouse!
- all the other usual stuff
- Cost: $1499
Sure, we'd like it for $1299, but this is Apple we're talking about.[ 11-27-2001: Message edited by: NeoMac ]</p>
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i think the worst thing they could do is kill the CRT iMac...... i would like to see something like a flat panel imac out there (though i liked the cube too), but LCD displays are just not tough enough (or cheap enough) for many school enviroments. Apple is not in the position to risk losing more sales to schools. giving individual students laptops is one thing, having flat panel imacs in clusters running all day with millions of kids screwing with them sounds like a nightmare.
the iMac line could use something to refresh it, but i think the basic unit is still as valid as it was day 1. people new to computers are drawn to it, and old timers still buy them for their clean design.
anyway, while i would bet my G4 there is something LIKE a flat panel imac or cube2 coming, i dont know if it will really replace the current iMac case. calling it a "pro-iMac" makes it sounds like another try at the cube project. hopefully this one can be at a better price range for the target users.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Your point is interesting.
However , like they did before for the i book, they can release a very strong LCD i mac. The main problem is the prize. I am nearly sure that in the future all Mac will have LCD. All Apple's screen are LCD now, there is no reason that the I mac will not turn to LCD either.
Don't tell me it's imposible...
No wireless has that bandwidth. You wanna get fried?
I'm not sure if you've seen it, but *once and a while* I get this pop up ad about a wirless video camera...*maybe you've seen it*?
*- denotes HEAVY sarcasm.
Now arguments that we should skin all spamers and dip them thrice daily in pools of magma aside...(what argument?) I was thinking you could couple a wireless keyboard and mouse to the iMac, and then have the iMac broadcast the signal to the tv.
I could do this for $200 CDN ($3.17 US) today... but with that rental software from Microsoft I'm not to keen on investing a single penny in my PC anymore; which would make a nice whatever as soon as an Apple machine that fits my need comes along.
Talk about fair use!
<strong>That's a good point about the edu market. CRTs are the way to go for schools. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Then why are so many schools lately buying laptops if CRTs the way to go for schools?
<strong>Then why are so many schools lately buying laptops if CRTs the way to go for schools?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Different machines. A laptop fills a different need in schools. But for what they're used for, school's *desktop* machines don't need LCDs. 90% of what any student will do on his iMac is word processing.
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i think the worst thing they could do is kill the CRT iMac...... i would like to see something like a flat panel imac out there (though i liked the cube too), but LCD displays are just not tough enough (or cheap enough) for many school enviroments.
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Price is a valid concern for schools but as far as not being tough enough why not just build in a glass protective screen over the LCD to protect it?
apple_otaku
<strong>Impossible.
No wireless has that bandwidth. You wanna get fried?</strong><hr></blockquote>
never seen the wireless link for sony camcorders?
[quote]Different machines. A laptop fills a different need in schools. But for what they're used for, school's *desktop* machines don't need LCDs. 90% of what any student will do on his iMac is word processing. <hr></blockquote>
desktop machines need to last, have as small a footprint as possible, be clearly readible, etc. Schools don't NEED computers. But they have em. LCDs are a logical progression of technology. Schools don't NEED more than an old iMac but they get em.
and BTW, I haven't seen a student doing word processing in a K-5 schools in years. schools don't buy thousands of dollars of new computers every 3 years to have spellcheck run faster
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Different machines. A laptop fills a different need in schools. But for what they're used for, school's *desktop* machines don't need LCDs. 90% of what any student will do on his iMac is word processing.</strong><hr></blockquote>
True.
Originally posted by a10t2:
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Different machines. A laptop fills a different need in schools. But for what they're used for, school's *desktop* machines don't need LCDs. 90% of what any student will do on his iMac is word processing.
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So what? LCDs are not good for Word Processing? Of course they are. Your still looking at the screen, and LCDs are better for your eyes...specially for those young lil kiddies with their precious lil eyes blah blah.
-Moazam
15" CRT = 13.8" viewable
17" CRT = 16.0" viewable
15" LCD = 15.0" viewable
<strong>I know the owner of yourdailymac.com, I haven't seen the photographs of the LCD iMac myself, but I do think the guy does have them... he says he is just waiting for his 'sources' to allow him to post them.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I hope your right, cuz I wanna see those pics! Knowing Apple, they'll make the site take them down, so make sure you download the pics once they get up there.