I'm with you. I travel much as I can and, regardless I try to secure good hotel wherever I go, I still come across hotels with Ethernet only. Even at home, I might plug my laptop on occasion to gigabit switch to copy large amount of data accross to a server.
Amusingly the best hotels are often the worst regarding internet access. High fees, so-so speeds and weak wifi signals or only having ethernet. This CAN be solved with an airport express which is what I use on business travel.
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Yes of course I can use external Ethernet, external ODD & HDD, but. We will change 4 hotels and also stay with my and my wife's parents for a while, so taking care about number of easy to lose gadgets is really less convenient than a few millimetres in laptop's thickness.
This is the part that most people prefer to gloss over. Once you factor in all the weight and bulk of external HDD, external optical, external dongles you end up with more volume and weight than a MBPc. A retina MBP with a HDD and ethernet would be very welcome.
The other thing is that the retina screen is beautiful but SMALL. I don't travel nearly as much as I used to so I'm 70-30 between office and road. So 70% of the time a retina screen wouldn't be useful at all except as a secondary screen for Outlook and chat. My primary work screen varies between a 30" and a 24" depending on where I am that day.
If I were 70-30 travel that might be different but then I'd STILL much rather have all my HDD space locked on board than have to deal with an external HDD. For one thing it makes sleep/wake cycles a LOT less annoying. You have to remember that you had your external hooked up and reattach it or risk data corruption. I've also had an external get accidentally detached in a crowded table and it's also a royal pain in the ass on an airline tray table where it also can get detached. God help you if you need both your HDD and ODD at the same time because you need to burn multiple disks for a client while on the plane. Even in business class that's going to be annoying and these days many companies don't let you fly business class domestically.
To me the mac laptops are far from perfect. For all the models that dont have a GPU, at least the new intel chips will be strong enough to drive the 13" rMBP and allow to build rMBA. But that is intel innovation, not apple. If Apple only upgrade the CPU and the cameras, that would mean they didnt innovate anything in year.
I would like to see OS-X borrow the new iOS touch interface (optionnal mode) so they can build touch screen models that turn into tablets. Onthe hardware side, find a clever way to build tablet/laptops hybrids.
So copying Windows OEMs is innovation? Also these hybrid devices aren't exactly flying off the shelves so I'm not convinced that's what the majority of people want. And Apple really isn't in the business of building niche devices, which an iPad running OSX or a MacBook Air having a touch screen would be IMO.
Thankyou!!! Someone agrees with me Wizard 69 as well.
The last I had heard was that the Macbook Pro classic was still selling better than the air..... suggesting that users may be missing something in the Air.
Most people I know with ODD-less laptops actually have external ODD, so I'm far from convinced. Was there any serious poll regarding ODD usage nowadays you can refer to, anyway?
I know of no serious poll. But I jump between the offices of a few small to medium size businesses. In one instance, they have switched entirely to either MBA or rMBP, and share 5 external optical drives amongst a staff of 123. They copy all software onto the network and install them from a centralized location. In another situation, same thing but they switched to Dell XPS models and share ~ 15 external drives amongst a staff of close to 200. I dare say 10 of those drives have never been used.
So copying Windows OEMs is innovation? Also these hybrid devices aren't exactly flying off the shelves so I'm not convinced that's what the majority of people want. And Apple really isn't in the business of building niche devices, which an iPad running OSX or a MacBook Air having a touch screen would be IMO.
Problem with Windows 8 is they force feed the touch interface to a bunch of people who dont like innovation. They should had made the interface optionnal. They have corrected that but it may be too late. That being said, touch interface are here to stay and it will spill to the desktop to a point where OS without them will feel severely outdated.
You are assuming things from most likely your personal perspective. For one thing the camera or back may require a computer to connect too.
Actually in some cases photographers do use a desktop class machine rolled around on a cart. This can be less than ideal. If you can come up with a laptop, with the right hardware, it can make for a far better system.
As for storing all of those photos, he probably doesn't. I can't read minds here but you would certainly want the data of current clients with you if at all possible. That might mean a couple of months or a couple of years worth of data.
It is interesting that people are demanding here that users move forward and drop their need for Ethernet and ODD but this guy wants Apple to move forward on another front and gets his post picked apart. Do you see the problem here?
Agreed, but he didn't say anything about keeping them safe on the machine, his issue is capacity to do his job and run a business.
Which is a good justification for an optical disk drive. That is if the disk can hold a days work. I wouldn't be surprised to see photographers backing up to optical disk a few times a day, in the field, for critical projects. Am alternative is to back up to something over USB such as a dongle or hard drive.
Note that these are only working backups for the days business. Archiving and storage woulda veto tak place on a separate system probably a disk array.
How many cameras can you do real time control from an iPad? Frankly iPads are of limited use for many common field photography needs.
You storage and back up problems only get worst.
Again you are looking at this from one perspective assuming your specific use case.
As much as I love my iPad I simply can't agree with you here. IPad isn't the solution for this issue.
thanks for adding perspective to my thoughts and I see you got my issues nailed!
I will use the iPad when:
- it allows me to import RAW pictures (not just JPG)
- it allows for non destructive editing (so my master files (now called "originals" on aperture since the last couple of "pseudo-updates")
- it allows me to back them up.
- it allows me to dialogue with my main aperture library on my main machine.
Apple still forces you to open a "copy" of iWork documents when on iCloud since some features are not supported.
BTW: I own an iPad and use it a lot to show work to clients, it is incredible.
I also have an appletv at the office for the very same purpose.
But when you realise that iOS and OSX are on a completely different league, then you feel let down.
I can load my music from a Mac mini machine running iTunes on my iPad or iPhone.
On my Apple TV though, I can also load my aperture library. On iPad and iOS? Nope. I have to convolutely manage the pictures (and all other pages and numbers documents) on separated iCloud folders that only exist in my cloud. Time machine is useless to back them up hourly.
Believe me, please, when i say time machine saved my arse countless times (more the ones of some at times computer wise clueless architects we have in our office...).
Delete an iCloud document? Bang. Gone forever...
Apple is the greates computer company around, but I feel their ecosystem concept is very much based on what they sell you and not what you create (pics, spreadsheets, projects, memos, designs, etc). Dare I say it? Adobe creative cloud is much more "creation friendly". So, either the iPad lives up to its huge potential, or we will have to hunt left and right for apps that do things apple is in a position to do a billion times better.
Yes but the PPC was completly lagging behind the intel processor when they were phased out. The Classic Macbook pro is not lagging behind the PC market.
Sigh..... I always import my CDs, I should have typed, I use my ODD to import CDs into itunes...
DVDs aren't really meant to be ripped (Well legally) so I will play them in the drive.
Just one final clarification: Our office has the following setup: 2 iMac 27" 1 rMBP 15" 3 iMac 21" And my MBP 17" with 27" Cinema Display.
Remind me again how to use my 17" monitor (which could be a 15" retina monitor) when connected to the Cinema Display and viewing apps in full screen mode? Ah.... Yes. Not possible. Why I would use that? Archicad 13 on main screen and maybe mail on secondary screen. Then aperture and calendar both in full screen...
We own macs since OS 7, back when I was a little more than a kid. And I decided to go "full apple". A wise choice for so many countless reasons (it support costs brought to almost zero, lifespan of machines increased dramatically, ease of use (hence productivity) much higher and the list goes on and on).
But criticising apple for letting the "pro" label become a marketing tool and no more is made only out of respect and admiration, not for bashing or trolling. Hundreds of millions of devices sold made me happy, I don't feel the need to belong to a "hipster club", but seeing the company I like the most (and I thank the most for helping me concentrate more on getting things done) miss so many marks for so little makes me sad. And makes me critic.
Me, I hope Apple will double the base SSD memory on both the Air and the Pro: 128 and 256 minimum for each. Because seriously, 64 and 128? That's such a shame.
Our personal average is 3-4 battery replacements before we typically move to a new computer (older machines end up sticking around for secondary uses (kids, kitchen/recipes/browsing, etc.). I realize this is a longer lifecycle than for some people, but these are good machines and I hate to throw them out just because their batteries are no longer up to snuff and when they can still be useful.
We also keep our Macs for a very long time. When we no longer need them they are no longer saleable.
My yr2000 Pismo PB still has a few uses for us, I have 3 batteries which are still holding in for 45 minutes each. I may buy one more new battery for it. A 3 yr old Netbook is currently our main travel computer, it's a snap to change it's battery.
A laptop not having an easily replaceable battery is as unacceptable for us, as a car without a full sized spare.
We also keep our Macs for a very long time. When we no longer need them they are no longer saleable.
My yr2000 Pismo PB still has a few uses for us, I have 3 batteries which are still holding in for 45 minutes each. I may buy one more new battery for it. A 3 yr old Netbook is currently our main travel computer, it's a snap to change it's battery.
A laptop not having an easily replaceable battery is as unacceptable for us, as a car without a full sized spare.
As far as battery life for old laptops relegated to kid duty it does not much matter. I have an old core solo mini in that kitchen recipe/kid math website role and a laptop with a defunct battery would work equally well. In fact we also have an old laptop with a battery that won't hold a charge anymore in that role for other homework.
For travel I much prefer external batteries that can be used for multiple devices more than replacement batteries that can only be used in the laptop. I use mine to power my iPad and two successive models of the MBP (the old 17" and a newer 15") as well as a dell laptop in the field and on long flights. I don't need a stack of three different replacement batteries for the MBP and Dell, nor do I have to drag out the laptop to recharge the iPad.
To me the mac laptops are far from perfect. For all the models that dont have a GPU, at least the new intel chips will be strong enough to drive the 13" rMBP and allow to build rMBA. But that is intel innovation, not apple. If Apple only upgrade the CPU and the cameras, that would mean they didnt innovate anything in year.
I would like to see OS-X borrow the new iOS touch interface (optionnal mode) so they can build touch screen models that turn into tablets. Onthe hardware side, find a clever way to build tablet/laptops hybrids.
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Originally Posted by nikon133
I'm with you. I travel much as I can and, regardless I try to secure good hotel wherever I go, I still come across hotels with Ethernet only. Even at home, I might plug my laptop on occasion to gigabit switch to copy large amount of data accross to a server.
Amusingly the best hotels are often the worst regarding internet access. High fees, so-so speeds and weak wifi signals or only having ethernet. This CAN be solved with an airport express which is what I use on business travel.
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Yes of course I can use external Ethernet, external ODD & HDD, but. We will change 4 hotels and also stay with my and my wife's parents for a while, so taking care about number of easy to lose gadgets is really less convenient than a few millimetres in laptop's thickness.
This is the part that most people prefer to gloss over. Once you factor in all the weight and bulk of external HDD, external optical, external dongles you end up with more volume and weight than a MBPc. A retina MBP with a HDD and ethernet would be very welcome.
The other thing is that the retina screen is beautiful but SMALL. I don't travel nearly as much as I used to so I'm 70-30 between office and road. So 70% of the time a retina screen wouldn't be useful at all except as a secondary screen for Outlook and chat. My primary work screen varies between a 30" and a 24" depending on where I am that day.
If I were 70-30 travel that might be different but then I'd STILL much rather have all my HDD space locked on board than have to deal with an external HDD. For one thing it makes sleep/wake cycles a LOT less annoying. You have to remember that you had your external hooked up and reattach it or risk data corruption. I've also had an external get accidentally detached in a crowded table and it's also a royal pain in the ass on an airline tray table where it also can get detached. God help you if you need both your HDD and ODD at the same time because you need to burn multiple disks for a client while on the plane. Even in business class that's going to be annoying and these days many companies don't let you fly business class domestically.
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Originally Posted by oldmacs
Thankyou!!! Someone agrees with me
The last I had heard was that the Macbook Pro classic was still selling better than the air..... suggesting that users may be missing something in the Air.
Can you tell us where you heard/read this?
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Originally Posted by nikon133
Most people I know with ODD-less laptops actually have external ODD, so I'm far from convinced. Was there any serious poll regarding ODD usage nowadays you can refer to, anyway?
I know of no serious poll. But I jump between the offices of a few small to medium size businesses. In one instance, they have switched entirely to either MBA or rMBP, and share 5 external optical drives amongst a staff of 123. They copy all software onto the network and install them from a centralized location. In another situation, same thing but they switched to Dell XPS models and share ~ 15 external drives amongst a staff of close to 200. I dare say 10 of those drives have never been used.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
So copying Windows OEMs is innovation? Also these hybrid devices aren't exactly flying off the shelves so I'm not convinced that's what the majority of people want. And Apple really isn't in the business of building niche devices, which an iPad running OSX or a MacBook Air having a touch screen would be IMO.
Problem with Windows 8 is they force feed the touch interface to a bunch of people who dont like innovation. They should had made the interface optionnal. They have corrected that but it may be too late. That being said, touch interface are here to stay and it will spill to the desktop to a point where OS without them will feel severely outdated.
I will use the iPad when:
- it allows me to import RAW pictures (not just JPG)
- it allows for non destructive editing (so my master files (now called "originals" on aperture since the last couple of "pseudo-updates")
- it allows me to back them up.
- it allows me to dialogue with my main aperture library on my main machine.
Apple still forces you to open a "copy" of iWork documents when on iCloud since some features are not supported.
BTW: I own an iPad and use it a lot to show work to clients, it is incredible.
I also have an appletv at the office for the very same purpose.
But when you realise that iOS and OSX are on a completely different league, then you feel let down.
I can load my music from a Mac mini machine running iTunes on my iPad or iPhone.
On my Apple TV though, I can also load my aperture library. On iPad and iOS? Nope. I have to convolutely manage the pictures (and all other pages and numbers documents) on separated iCloud folders that only exist in my cloud. Time machine is useless to back them up hourly.
Believe me, please, when i say time machine saved my arse countless times (more the ones of some at times computer wise clueless architects we have in our office...).
Delete an iCloud document? Bang. Gone forever...
Apple is the greates computer company around, but I feel their ecosystem concept is very much based on what they sell you and not what you create (pics, spreadsheets, projects, memos, designs, etc). Dare I say it? Adobe creative cloud is much more "creation friendly". So, either the iPad lives up to its huge potential, or we will have to hunt left and right for apps that do things apple is in a position to do a billion times better.
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Originally Posted by oldmacs
Yes but the PPC was completly lagging behind the intel processor when they were phased out. The Classic Macbook pro is not lagging behind the PC market.
Sigh..... I always import my CDs, I should have typed, I use my ODD to import CDs into itunes...
DVDs aren't really meant to be ripped (Well legally) so I will play them in the drive.
An external ODD costs $35, $79 from Apple.
Our office has the following setup:
2 iMac 27"
1 rMBP 15"
3 iMac 21"
And my MBP 17" with 27" Cinema Display.
Remind me again how to use my 17" monitor (which could be a 15" retina monitor) when connected to the Cinema Display and viewing apps in full screen mode? Ah.... Yes. Not possible. Why I would use that? Archicad 13 on main screen and maybe mail on secondary screen. Then aperture and calendar both in full screen...
We own macs since OS 7, back when I was a little more than a kid. And I decided to go "full apple". A wise choice for so many countless reasons (it support costs brought to almost zero, lifespan of machines increased dramatically, ease of use (hence productivity) much higher and the list goes on and on).
But criticising apple for letting the "pro" label become a marketing tool and no more is made only out of respect and admiration, not for bashing or trolling. Hundreds of millions of devices sold made me happy, I don't feel the need to belong to a "hipster club", but seeing the company I like the most (and I thank the most for helping me concentrate more on getting things done) miss so many marks for so little makes me sad. And makes me critic.
Originally Posted by erenbeskardes
The only thing i hope is an 16 GB memory on 13"retina
Heck, 8, 16, and 32GB options across the board.
Me, I hope Apple will double the base SSD memory on both the Air and the Pro: 128 and 256 minimum for each. Because seriously, 64 and 128? That's such a shame.
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Originally Posted by tikiman
Our personal average is 3-4 battery replacements before we typically move to a new computer (older machines end up sticking around for secondary uses (kids, kitchen/recipes/browsing, etc.). I realize this is a longer lifecycle than for some people, but these are good machines and I hate to throw them out just because their batteries are no longer up to snuff and when they can still be useful.
We also keep our Macs for a very long time. When we no longer need them they are no longer saleable.
My yr2000 Pismo PB still has a few uses for us, I have 3 batteries which are still holding in for 45 minutes each. I may buy one more new battery for it. A 3 yr old Netbook is currently our main travel computer, it's a snap to change it's battery.
A laptop not having an easily replaceable battery is as unacceptable for us, as a car without a full sized spare.
As far as battery life for old laptops relegated to kid duty it does not much matter. I have an old core solo mini in that kitchen recipe/kid math website role and a laptop with a defunct battery would work equally well. In fact we also have an old laptop with a battery that won't hold a charge anymore in that role for other homework.
For travel I much prefer external batteries that can be used for multiple devices more than replacement batteries that can only be used in the laptop. I use mine to power my iPad and two successive models of the MBP (the old 17" and a newer 15") as well as a dell laptop in the field and on long flights. I don't need a stack of three different replacement batteries for the MBP and Dell, nor do I have to drag out the laptop to recharge the iPad.
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Originally Posted by herbapou
To me the mac laptops are far from perfect. For all the models that dont have a GPU, at least the new intel chips will be strong enough to drive the 13" rMBP and allow to build rMBA. But that is intel innovation, not apple. If Apple only upgrade the CPU and the cameras, that would mean they didnt innovate anything in year.
I would like to see OS-X borrow the new iOS touch interface (optionnal mode) so they can build touch screen models that turn into tablets. Onthe hardware side, find a clever way to build tablet/laptops hybrids.
F*ck the shemales of the computer world.
Originally Posted by Prouser
I want a new 17", I need the larger screen.
It's not happening.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
It's not happening.
Then I'll stick with what I have until I NEED to replace it - crazy, we seem to be going backwards!
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Originally Posted by pedromartins
The processor;
16gb ram;
HOPEFUlly a 750m on the 13" and SLI 750m on the 15".
You mean a 760m or 765m on the 15? (basically double the power/shaders of the 750m)
I hope so too!
heck, throw it in the 13!
That would be hugely fantastic but probably unlikely. They had the opportunity to put in a discrete GPU in the retina 13" but choose not to.