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Our existing Pro has a slot into which we can drop an upgraded video card. We never have. We bought the best the machine could support at the time and have never changed it.
Thunderbolt pretty much solves the last of the cases we had for slots. The Blackmagic Design cards we use for HD-SDI I/O are now available in Thunderbolt versions, as is our Pro Tools controller.
Yes, each enclosure will share the equivalent of a x8 lane. Meaning if you have a high speed card that wants x8 performance it's on card per external enclosure.
Hopefully they stack.
If you have a x16 card it'll be throttled. That's probably not so great. Perhaps they'll add bonding to the TB2 specs so you can bond two of the ports together for better throughput.
Of course you can rack mount it
The article's vague because its author thinks Ethernet is FireWire 800.
This proves that Apple has done 100% the right thing.
GUESS WHAT THE CYLINDER CAN DO, KIDDO.
That's so effing stupid.
Pros want a lot of cores. Multiple processors are just a means to that end. You'd know that if you actually knew anything.
Also? There are no single-chip processors with 12 cores from any manufacturer. Not that I can find, anyway. Not Sandy, Ivy, or Haswell.
Yeah, they could have made it a worthless update that didn't actually innovate anything and for which they would have been mocked and derided because it was "late".
Instead they punched people like you in the metaphorical face and told you to shut up. This is the future. Deal with it.
Looking through the preview pages at apple.com, two things really stand out for me:
1. The cooling: I love the idea that there is a central heatsink/column that everything is attached to, and a single fan.
2. The storage speed. I have the latest SSD on my PC which does 500MB/s read, 450MB/s write, they are claiming 1250MB/s for this box.
I think when people get to try this out it's going to feel like the fastest box they've ever used.
Hopefully someone will build a matching black base for the Mac Pro to sit on (and get cool air) and provide an octopus cable to the TB2 ports. Each slot in the chassis gets it's own TB2 port and you get a built in 4-6 bay RAID array.
Then the Cray fans will really have a nano Cray 1 sitting on their desk.
You can arrange the slots radially with the backs ending up in the donut hole so you can route any cables out the back.
That is my reaction. I was chilly to the concept when I first heard about it, but the walk through made it clearer what it was: a small but powerful processor module with fast local storage for the system and fast ports for connecting to bulk storage. The cooling setup is great. The bet Apple is making is by the time you need to upgrade the two GPU modules, you will want to upgrade the CPU and memory as well.
On top of all that, it looks nice once you see it in regular light. Some photos look like black shiny plastic when it really is reflective metal. They need to take better shots.
The cost will be killer though. 5K to start, up to 10K/15K USD depending on setup? Way outside what I can afford, but some forward thinking professionals should be able to appreciate it.
If it starts at $1800 it should do really well if it comes with a half decent GPU. Doesn't have to be awesome but half decent. Say a GTX 775M or equivalent with 2GB RAM. Something that 3 years from now will perform okay with the latest pro app since you can't upgrade it.
If it does start at $1800 then the iMac 27" will take a huge hit in numbers. I wouldn't be surprised if the starting price will be $3K.
Two 6 core Xeon
4x4GB RAM for 16GB
That's a $800 price drop from the current 12 Core Mac Pro and a great value. The starting price went up $500 though.
If there is a Quad model I don't see it costing less than $2K. It would crater the iMac sales too much and the margins on the screen are too sweet to pass up.
Clueless troll 2010,2011,2012 - Where is the new Mac Pro? The Mac Pro is getting kind of stale! Apple needs to update the design! Has Apple discontinued and abandoned the Mac Pro line?
Clueless troll 2013 - WTF! Where is the old Mac Pro?! I don't see any SCSI connection and where is the CD slot? There is just too much innovation going on here for my feeble mind to comprehend.
That's not fair.
It's not being a troll wanting, asking and even demanding a new Mac Pro when Apple didn't update the product for so long. Some of the Mac Pro users are more loyal and knowledgeable, not to mention long time customers of Apple.
People are allowed to act and react emotionally without being called names, especially when they are not espousing their opinions with the express purpose of being inflammatory and baiting others, which you seem to doing. Who is really being more of a troll?
Really uncalled for.
There doesn't seem to be anything stopping upgrading of RAM or for that matter the HDD. They aren't soldered on at all but are in reasonably standard slots from what I can see.
The only thing that might put a spanner in the works is how easy is it to get into the case? It does look pretty easy but it remains to be seen.
There has never been a better time for Adobe to release Creative Suite for Linux. Personally I like big cases and motherboards that I can build to suit my needs. Hackintosh is probably not an option going forward, but neither is this new Mac Pro in my opinion. 4K video and thunderbolt are not exclusive to Apple. Premier is already 4K capable. TB2 will also be available on other boards around the same time.
This is just such a futuristic marvel that has the potential to change the way Pros work.
Of course, most of them are retarded and unable to evolve, it's a shame they will be left behind. Same thing with keyboards and mouses, diskette and cd rom, you name it.
I disagree about the pros disagreeing.
This machine is exactly what a real pro wants. The people complaining are those dilettantes that think they are "pros" but aren't really, and just want a super hot machine to brag about.
Basically most of the folks that post at AppleInsider (including me).
Ha! You're so clueless. It's funny. But at least (as you say) people like you will want it.