not really... they need to stop with The iTunes nonsense - One of the things I like about Pandora is that I open a browser and I can listen wherever I want - same reason I switch over to AmazonMP3 for my cloud music service. I just don't understand cloud/digital services that in 2013 have no web integration.
I'm not looking to just pile on - before yesterday I said that if it were like Pandora, I'll pass. If like Spotify, I'm in. To each his or her own, but it's just not for me. I rather pay $10 per month and avoid ads + be able to search and play individual songs.
I'm sure it'll be very successful for Apple though, no doubt about it.
I've updated to iOS 7... itunes radio -- while i've listened to it for a hour or so, I have to say is pretty damn cool. I've got itunes Match so for $24.99 for the YEAR, a NO AD radio service sure seems appealing to me, that not only matches ALL MY LIBRARY, but allows me now unlimited music uninterrupted via iTunes Radio... Personally, it's waaaaaaay worth it... I think the "match" part keeps getting left out of the narrative... Also, the quality of the sound, at least so far to me, is really, really good.
I don't understand your distaste for the idea of iTunes Radio. It's essentially Pandora integrated into the Apple ecosystem. Lot's of people use Pandora. I have a lot of music, but sometimes I want to listen to stuff I don't have (on that note, it would be cool if you could make it play only stuff you don't have through iTunes).
I've discovered quite a bit of good music through Genius, not just "Top 40"; also, didn't they buy LaLa? So it's not just Genius.
Personally, as "iRadio" takes off, I suspect that it won't be iTunes Match that includes ad-free radio, but rather it will be iTunes Match that's included when you opt to pay for no ads.
Also, regarding buying songs vs. albums... does it matter? You can just complete the album later.
Maybe you don't like internet radio, but that doesn't mean it's not for music lovers.
Confused. I already have itunes Match. iTunes radio comes ad free as part of the deal -- as it stands now.
I like the fact that Apple's subscription price includes another benefit of having all of my music available to me to re-download as a part of the iTunes Radio price with no commercials. Basically an online backup without the hassle or the price of an online backup. And the price is about $10 a year cheaper than Pandora. Win, win situation all around in my view.
Confused. I already have itunes Match. iTunes radio comes ad free as part of the deal -- as it stands now.
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I mean, eventually it won't be marketed as that you get ad-free radio when you sign up for iTunes Match, but the other way around. As in, ad-free radio will be the draw and Match will be the perk.
I'm just talking how its marketed. The result would be the same.
I've updated to iOS 7... itunes radio -- while i've listened to it for a hour or so, I have to say is pretty damn cool. I've got itunes Match so for $24.99 for the YEAR, a NO AD radio service sure seems appealing to me, that not only matches ALL MY LIBRARY, but allows me now unlimited music uninterrupted via iTunes Radio... Personally, it's waaaaaaay worth it... I think the "match" part keeps getting left out of the narrative... Also, the quality of the sound, at least so far to me, is really, really good.
Fair point. I don't use iTunes Match so for me, still not worth it. Having said that, my oldest daughter was really excited when I told her about it. It definitely has a market, never doubted that.
Amidst all the iOS and OSX news there is a little "skipped" piece. Apple TV. The keynote said it will be available for Apple TV as well. But so far I haven't heard anything about the Apple TV having a beta of iTunes Radio. Add to that the OSX Maverick presentation with a lot of emphasis on the TV screen becoming a full fledged external screen through AirPlay. I think something's boiling...
Especially if OSX and iOS interfaces have been revamped (one more, one a little less) and Apple TV has been shown no love. Mac Pro might be a "PR issue" but in sheer sales numbers Apple TV has done better. No news about an SDK, no news about a SW refresh, seems quite odd. Particularly considering the "hot fall" Cook hinted at D conference. And.... the game consoles messing around (Xbox One more than PS4, but nevertheless...).
I think Apple TV in the sense of an "Apple Branded" set top box is in the coming. And after WWDC I am more keen to bet on it than before.
I might be completely wrong though...
I'm not holding my breath for a big Apple TV update this year, but it seems like Apple has a hole to fill in their fall iTunes event. I can't see any big updates to their iPod lines. They seem to have hit dead ends, in that they are pretty much perfect for what they are. The only big things I can see them do along these lines is add Bluetooth capability, introduce wearables (ie iwatch), or update Apple TV significantly. It would be great if they opened up some Apple TV APIs, along with a couple stock apps, including the killer app to rule all TV set top boxes.. drumroll... iTunes Kareoke!
Hmmm, I tried iOS7 iTunes Music / Radio - but can't find many of the artists I love streamable even if iTunes has the artist in the store Now in Spotify I can start a radio station from ANY entry! As an example in iTunes Radio - take Jevel Katz and add a station based on his name - NOT
I'm not looking to just pile on - before yesterday I said that if it were like Pandora, I'll pass. If like Spotify, I'm in. To each his or her own, but it's just not for me. I rather pay $10 per month and avoid ads + be able to search and play individual songs.
I'm sure it'll be very successful for Apple though, no doubt about it.
(This all relates to Mac and PC's, not phones and pads)
I tried Pandora 3 or 4 times - lots of thumbs up and down, lots of other training - and it still played a bunch of crap that had nothing to do with the artists I specified - more like bottom 500 than top 40, LoLz - and I heard precious little of the artists I did specify......
So for me, when I want to listen to my iTunes collection OR artists, songs and albums I know, or what facebook friends with good taste have unearthed it's Spotify. In my car it's my iPod Classic jukebox of 20,000 cuts and well, the radio. (Remember those??)
When I just want a stream I only have to pick, RadioTuna.com has many hundreds of finely grained stations I just have to pick. Or the radio streams in iTunes, though not lately.
Out misplaced loyalty to a company (for which you are nothing more but a filthy sac of meat with a wallet) you ignore the best internet "radio" service there is:
Google Music All Access, which combines Pandora and Spotify (and no ads to boot)
Out misplaced loyalty to a company (for which you are nothing more but a filthy sac of meat with a wallet) you ignore the best internet "radio" service there is:
Google Music All Access, which combines Pandora and Spotify (and no ads to boot)
Thoroughly useless service if you are not able to play whatever song you want, when you want. I don't want a passive Pandora-esque experience. I want to be able to play whatever song on earth that I desire on-demand. If Spotify can do it, Apple can do it better.
Thoroughly useless service if you are not able to play whatever song you want, when you want. I don't want a passive Pandora-esque experience. I want to be able to play whatever song on earth that I desire on-demand. If Spotify can do it, Apple can do it better.
Would I be incorrect in my hopes that iTunes Radio replaces Radio on my Apple TV? I listen to most music through my home entertainment system which now means Pandora via my Roku. I have never cared too much for Radio on Apple TV.
Old school thinking. Streaming is better, thus Apple's (and everyone else) jump to streaming.
Spotify is great. I assume Google Play Music is as well, as it is very much like Spotify.
Google's service lets you choose and stream specific songs, albums, artists, or set up a "radio feed" with similar music based on a song or artist. You're also allowed to add any of those to your own personal music collection at no additional charge.
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I beg to differ:
And how could thousands of Santa's elves be wrong?
I guess we found where Forstall was exiled.
not really... they need to stop with The iTunes nonsense - One of the things I like about Pandora is that I open a browser and I can listen wherever I want - same reason I switch over to AmazonMP3 for my cloud music service. I just don't understand cloud/digital services that in 2013 have no web integration.
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I'm not looking to just pile on - before yesterday I said that if it were like Pandora, I'll pass. If like Spotify, I'm in. To each his or her own, but it's just not for me. I rather pay $10 per month and avoid ads + be able to search and play individual songs.
I'm sure it'll be very successful for Apple though, no doubt about it.
I've updated to iOS 7... itunes radio -- while i've listened to it for a hour or so, I have to say is pretty damn cool. I've got itunes Match so for $24.99 for the YEAR, a NO AD radio service sure seems appealing to me, that not only matches ALL MY LIBRARY, but allows me now unlimited music uninterrupted via iTunes Radio... Personally, it's waaaaaaay worth it... I think the "match" part keeps getting left out of the narrative... Also, the quality of the sound, at least so far to me, is really, really good.
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Originally Posted by Pendergast
I don't understand your distaste for the idea of iTunes Radio. It's essentially Pandora integrated into the Apple ecosystem. Lot's of people use Pandora. I have a lot of music, but sometimes I want to listen to stuff I don't have (on that note, it would be cool if you could make it play only stuff you don't have through iTunes).
I've discovered quite a bit of good music through Genius, not just "Top 40"; also, didn't they buy LaLa? So it's not just Genius.
Personally, as "iRadio" takes off, I suspect that it won't be iTunes Match that includes ad-free radio, but rather it will be iTunes Match that's included when you opt to pay for no ads.
Also, regarding buying songs vs. albums... does it matter? You can just complete the album later.
Maybe you don't like internet radio, but that doesn't mean it's not for music lovers.
Confused. I already have itunes Match. iTunes radio comes ad free as part of the deal -- as it stands now.
And the price is about $10 a year cheaper than Pandora. Win, win situation all around in my view.
I mean, eventually it won't be marketed as that you get ad-free radio when you sign up for iTunes Match, but the other way around. As in, ad-free radio will be the draw and Match will be the perk.
I'm just talking how its marketed. The result would be the same.
Fair point. I don't use iTunes Match so for me, still not worth it. Having said that, my oldest daughter was really excited when I told her about it. It definitely has a market, never doubted that.
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I'm not holding my breath for a big Apple TV update this year, but it seems like Apple has a hole to fill in their fall iTunes event. I can't see any big updates to their iPod lines. They seem to have hit dead ends, in that they are pretty much perfect for what they are. The only big things I can see them do along these lines is add Bluetooth capability, introduce wearables (ie iwatch), or update Apple TV significantly. It would be great if they opened up some Apple TV APIs, along with a couple stock apps, including the killer app to rule all TV set top boxes.. drumroll... iTunes Kareoke!
Now in Spotify I can start a radio station from ANY entry!
As an example in iTunes Radio - take Jevel Katz and add a station based on his name - NOT
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Originally Posted by allenbf
I'm not looking to just pile on - before yesterday I said that if it were like Pandora, I'll pass. If like Spotify, I'm in. To each his or her own, but it's just not for me. I rather pay $10 per month and avoid ads + be able to search and play individual songs.
I'm sure it'll be very successful for Apple though, no doubt about it.
(This all relates to Mac and PC's, not phones and pads)
I tried Pandora 3 or 4 times - lots of thumbs up and down, lots of other training - and it still played a bunch of crap that had nothing to do with the artists I specified - more like bottom 500 than top 40, LoLz - and I heard precious little of the artists I did specify......
So for me, when I want to listen to my iTunes collection OR artists, songs and albums I know, or what facebook friends with good taste have unearthed it's Spotify. In my car it's my iPod Classic jukebox of 20,000 cuts and well, the radio. (Remember those??)
When I just want a stream I only have to pick, RadioTuna.com has many hundreds of finely grained stations I just have to pick. Or the radio streams in iTunes, though not lately.
Meanwhile, I use iTunes for my podcast viewing.
So if this is "like Pandora," I'll pass.
You fanbois sure make me laugh...
Out misplaced loyalty to a company (for which you are nothing more but a filthy sac of meat with a wallet) you ignore the best internet "radio" service there is:
Google Music All Access, which combines Pandora and Spotify (and no ads to boot)
You fanbois sure make me laugh....
Out misplaced loyalty to a company (for which you are nothing more but a filthy sac of meat with a wallet) you ignore the best internet "radio" service there is:
Google Music All Access, which combines Pandora and Spotify (and no ads to boot)
Originally Posted by AZREOSpecialist
Thoroughly useless service if you are not able to play whatever song you want, when you want. I don't want a passive Pandora-esque experience. I want to be able to play whatever song on earth that I desire on-demand. If Spotify can do it, Apple can do it better.
They do, it's called buying the songs you want.
Pandora? It's all about Grooveshark, baby
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Pandora? It's all about Grooveshark, baby
Is Grooveshark still going? I know that they illegally uploaded a lot of music and got taken to court.
Old school thinking. Streaming is better, thus Apple's (and everyone else) jump to streaming.
Spotify is great. I assume Google Play Music is as well, as it is very much like Spotify.
Google's service lets you choose and stream specific songs, albums, artists, or set up a "radio feed" with similar music based on a song or artist. You're also allowed to add any of those to your own personal music collection at no additional charge.