Obviously you have never driven a BMW car w/sports suspension. I owned one. The car handle like no other car I've ever owned. The electronics sucked. I admit, I've driven several regular BMWs. None of them handled as well as the one I owned.
Except for 2011, it's generally been Toyota based on straight volume. Now they've gotten hurt in China of late and the US a little, so the top 3 are all fairly close between T/GM/VW but as of latest numbers it's still Toyota.
I wish the smartphone industry was more like the auto industry. All major players doing well and almost the same amount of business.
no volkswagon brands at all - I emailed them on monday to see if it was pending - no answer
This doesn't surprise me at all. By the time BMW came out with the smartphone adaptor for the iPhone 4, the iPhone 5 was only a few months away. Then, when I connected my iPhone 5 to the system (USB), iDrive told me it was an unsupported device. May not be the case now with newer software, but it certainly didn't work when I tried it.
Totally stoopid on BMWs part. Their "advanced multimedia" is and has been a bad jobke for years. They have no clue what to do and should concentrate on what they know best.
Obviously you have never driven a BMW car w/sports suspension. I owned one. The car handle like no other car I've ever owned. The electronics sucked. I admit, I've driven several regular BMWs. None of them handled as well as the one I owned.
I like mine. I have not driven any of the sport versions. I'm sort of an obey the speed limit type person so sport handling isn't that important to me. It would be nice to have Siri find a location and plot the turn by turn. Other than that I find all auto electronic entertainment, information and communication features to be distracting and avoid using them.
Really? It's the full iOS system and you can do everything you can on iOS? G
ames and everything on the car screen? Does that mean that we can't check vehicle systems/info on the screen anymore? Can't control satellite radio? I'm not sure I fully understand what this system will look like and how it will integrate into the car's mechanical systems.
I'm guessing it is more like a special version of AirPlay. iOS is on your phone, but it uses your in-dash screen and likely other controls / touch for input. Most systems have a "media" mode option or something similar for calling up the iPod type control. This would just be more generic since it can support navigation and other services. I would expect an app might be able to be aware it is in use via a car and change its behaviors and integrate. It will be interesting to see what it actually is and how consistent it is across manufacturers. None of the brands I have driven recently are in the list. It will be a point of consideration for my next purchase, but likely not a deciding factor.
It reads your texts aloud. It can take your phone's internet connection and create a WiFi hotspot in the car.
I just don't see any benefit for manufacturers to use this when they already have systems in place that do everything this does but for Windows/Android/iOS
What's the benefit to carmakers over their existing systems which have been in place for years? They would have to create entire new systems and retrain everybody.
I don't see it being the a deal breaker to very many people buying a car at all. What kinds of things iOS in the car do that BMW's iDrive or even Ford's MyFord Touch can't do?
Have you seen what car interfaces look like? If the UI was much better and standardized, there would be no reason to retrain. I don't use an Android phone, but if I picked one up, I would know how to get around in it. It's all about user experience.
I want knobs and buttons--real ones--for climate control.
For everything else, I want iOS! Car UI's are horrible!
I'm sure the automakers hate the idea of becoming unable to sell you an awful $2000 touchscreen upgrade with 1990s GPS and a UI only an engineer could love.
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"Bummer, no beamer"
predictable bunch these Apple fundamentalists.
Obviously you have never driven a BMW car w/sports suspension. I owned one. The car handle like no other car I've ever owned. The electronics sucked. I admit, I've driven several regular BMWs. None of them handled as well as the one I owned.
I wish the smartphone industry was more like the auto industry. All major players doing well and almost the same amount of business.
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It's iOS...
Thank you for putting it so succinctly!
no volkswagon brands at all - I emailed them on monday to see if it was pending - no answer
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That's sealed the decision for me: I will not be buying the M3. Too bad I really liked how it drives. /s
There, I fixed it for you.
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no volkswagon brands at all - I emailed them on monday to see if it was pending - no answer
This doesn't surprise me at all. By the time BMW came out with the smartphone adaptor for the iPhone 4, the iPhone 5 was only a few months away. Then, when I connected my iPhone 5 to the system (USB), iDrive told me it was an unsupported device. May not be the case now with newer software, but it certainly didn't work when I tried it.
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Originally Posted by jr_b
Obviously you have never driven a BMW car w/sports suspension. I owned one. The car handle like no other car I've ever owned. The electronics sucked. I admit, I've driven several regular BMWs. None of them handled as well as the one I owned.
I like mine. I have not driven any of the sport versions. I'm sort of an obey the speed limit type person so sport handling isn't that important to me. It would be nice to have Siri find a location and plot the turn by turn. Other than that I find all auto electronic entertainment, information and communication features to be distracting and avoid using them.
6 of the 9 car companies that endorsed siri eyes free are not on the list to support iOS in the car. Interesting.
This is going to end the same as siri eyes-free. Many car logos on the screen when it was announced. And today? Only one car company used it.
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What kinds of things iOS in the car do that BMW's iDrive or even Ford's MyFord Touch can't do?
Fully integrate, reliably, with your iPhone and allow you to use it without reading a manual.
I'm guessing it is more like a special version of AirPlay. iOS is on your phone, but it uses your in-dash screen and likely other controls / touch for input. Most systems have a "media" mode option or something similar for calling up the iPod type control. This would just be more generic since it can support navigation and other services. I would expect an app might be able to be aware it is in use via a car and change its behaviors and integrate. It will be interesting to see what it actually is and how consistent it is across manufacturers. None of the brands I have driven recently are in the list. It will be a point of consideration for my next purchase, but likely not a deciding factor.
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I wish the smartphone industry was more like the auto industry. All major players doing well and almost the same amount of business.
You mean prices going up every year and stagnant, decades old technology years behind the rest of the world?
What about Volkswagen? Don't they have that new iBeetle coming out soon?
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/04/21/volkswagon-preps-iphone-integrated-ibeetle-for-reveal-next-week
No. I clearly wrote what I meant. Was that too difficult for you?
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Fully integrate, reliably, with your iPhone and allow you to use it without reading a manual.
Thank you for the nondescript answer.
MyFord Touch can already do this. When you have a supported app on your iPhone MFT automatically detects it and completely integrates it with the system. http://www.ford.com/technology/sync/features/sync-app-link/
It reads your texts aloud. It can take your phone's internet connection and create a WiFi hotspot in the car.
I just don't see any benefit for manufacturers to use this when they already have systems in place that do everything this does but for Windows/Android/iOS
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Originally Posted by NexusPhan
What's the benefit to carmakers over their existing systems which have been in place for years? They would have to create entire new systems and retrain everybody.
I don't see it being the a deal breaker to very many people buying a car at all. What kinds of things iOS in the car do that BMW's iDrive or even Ford's MyFord Touch can't do?
Have you seen what car interfaces look like? If the UI was much better and standardized, there would be no reason to retrain. I don't use an Android phone, but if I picked one up, I would know how to get around in it. It's all about user experience.
For everything else, I want iOS! Car UI's are horrible!
I'm sure the automakers hate the idea of becoming unable to sell you an awful $2000 touchscreen upgrade with 1990s GPS and a UI only an engineer could love.