Chinese accessory maker claims to have 'permanently cracked' Apple's Lightning authentication

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  • Reply 21 of 93
    citycity Posts: 522member


    I recently saw a bowl of similar cables for sale at a UPS Store. The new franchisee owner promoted them as a good deal because the cables from Apple were expensive. For the owner, he priced these several times his cost. I told him that he was part of the problem and reminded him about the research and development cost that is factored into his phone. I also reminded him of the risk of damaging a customers phone. 

  • Reply 22 of 93
    and yet another lawsuit is underway
  • Reply 23 of 93
    leonardleonard Posts: 528member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sflocal View Post


    Well, it's China after all.  Like they even remotely care about IP.

     

    They only care when it's their own IP.
  • Reply 24 of 93
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 5,988member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by christopher126 View Post


    It's one of the consequences of US business shipping 50,000 factories (and jobs) overseas. The chinese are stealing our IP and not just cables, but defense, aerospace, etc., etc.


     


    Ugh!







    How would keeping those 50,000 factories (and jobs) in the U.S. have made any difference?  China could still get their hands on the cables, crack them, reverse-engineer them and be exactly where they are now.  Doesn't make one iota of difference.



    What's a shame is that even with the media buzzing this, China's government doesn't stop for a moment to think "Gee, we really shouldn't be doing this."



    All that R&D that Apple does just ends up saving the copycat artists from having to do their own development.  Leeches.

  • Reply 25 of 93
    macfandavemacfandave Posts: 603member
    I see China's utter disregard for the IP of foreigners as being analogous to Germany's militarism in the 1930's. I see the same feckless response to those who are witnessing the blatant violation. Whether it's going to be limited to a US vs. China confrontation, or whether it's going to be WWIII, I don't know, but their egregious theft of our technology will require a response.
  • Reply 26 of 93
    robin huberrobin huber Posts: 3,639member
    It's one of the consequences of US business shipping 50,000 factories (and jobs) overseas. The chinese are stealing our IP and not just cables, but defense, aerospace, etc., etc.

    Ugh!
    Yes, but no evil unions to deal with!
  • Reply 27 of 93
    pdq2pdq2 Posts: 270member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post



    Those Chinese, they crack me up.


     


    Personally, I think anyone that believes that they have irreversibly circumvented Apple's technological IP must be permanently cracked.

  • Reply 28 of 93
    ktappektappe Posts: 808member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by city View Post


    I recently saw a bowl of similar cables for sale at a UPS Store. I told [the new franchisee owner] that he was part of the problem . 



     


    Hold it. First let's agree on what "the problem" is. To me, the problem is that Apple prices their Lightning accessories at $20-$30. That means when I got a new iPhone that I didn't exactly pay bottom dollar for, I also had to go pay $100 for new cables. If these Chinese companies can sell functionally-equivalent cables for half what Apple is selling them for and still make a profit, then Apple's profiteering is "the problem." Your local UPS franchisee is a symptom, not part of "the problem."

  • Reply 29 of 93
    rayzrayz Posts: 814member
    gwmac wrote: »
    Nope, wrong again. This is a hardware encoding and the point version of an iOS update would never block use of a lightning cable since that would also potentially block legitimate cables or people that had not updated. Besides the fact that the encoding and authentication in lightning has nothing whatsoever to do with an iOS point release. 

    Well, we only have the company's word that this is cannot be blocked. If they're wrong, good luck getting your money back.
  • Reply 30 of 93
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Robin Huber View Post



    Isn't this a legitimate patent issue?


    If it is, and it sure seems like it should be, they will have to sneak them into the US. Apple hires some detectives, they find who is importing them, then the Feds go cut some locks, but in the rest of the world it'll be a different story.

  • Reply 31 of 93
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member
    gwmac wrote: »
    This is a hardware encoding...

    Even if true, all future devices block them. Cake.
    ...and the point version of an iOS update would never...

    'Kay.
    Besides the fact that the encoding and authentication in lightning has nothing whatsoever to do with an iOS point release. 

    Keep living the dream, man.
  • Reply 32 of 93
    citycity Posts: 522member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ktappe View Post


     


    Hold it. First let's agree on what "the problem" is. To me, the problem is that Apple prices their Lightning accessories at $20-$30. That means when I got a new iPhone that I didn't exactly pay bottom dollar for, I also had to go pay $100 for new cables. If these Chinese companies can sell functionally-equivalent cables for half what Apple is selling them for and still make a profit, then Apple's profiteering is "the problem." Your local UPS franchisee is a symptom, not part of "the problem."



    I would like to see lower prices on Apple necessity accessories as oppose to just accessaries too, but you can't just go into a store and steal something because you believe it is too expensive. I assume this to be consistent with what you would teach your children. 

  • Reply 33 of 93
    What is it about Asia that makes that part of the world want to rip off technologies developed by American companies? Seriously, this crap needs to stop. Don't Asians learn personal responsibility growing up? Don't they understand the concept of stealing? Or do they just think they are entitled to everything the world creates without paying for those creations?
  • Reply 34 of 93


    I think it's time to order a few drone strikes. We might as well use that technology for something useful.

  • Reply 35 of 93


    Order your cheap Lightning Cables here:


     


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  • Reply 36 of 93

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Robin Huber View Post





    Yes, but no evil unions to deal with!




    Yes. Look at how well the Chinese people are doing at Foxcon without a union.

  • Reply 37 of 93
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member


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  • Reply 38 of 93
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AZREOSpecialist View Post



    What is it about Asia that makes that part of the world want to rip off technologies developed by American companies? Seriously, this crap needs to stop. Don't Asians learn personal responsibility growing up? Don't they understand the concept of stealing? Or do they just think they are entitled to everything the world creates without paying for those creations?


    I don't think it is healthy to make such broad generalizations about people's ethnicity. If the US did not have such a highly developed judicial system, Americans would still be wearing six shooters, murdering, robbing, slaughtering native people and decimating the natural environment just like they did in the wild west. Not to mention the history of human trafficking and enslavement of Africans. One should take in to consideration that the US is a couple centuries ahead of many other cultures with regard to modern civilization and industrialization.

  • Reply 39 of 93
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    mstone wrote: »
    I don't think it is healthy to make such broad generalizations about people's ethnicity. If the US did not have such a highly developed judicial system, Americans would still be wearing six shooters, murdering, robbing, slaughtering native people and decimating the natural environment just like they did in the wild west.

    Hey we stop slaughtering the natives years ago.
  • Reply 40 of 93
    gwmacgwmac Posts: 1,800member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post





    Even if true, all future devices block them. Cake.

    'Kay.

    Keep living the dream, man.


    Only someone without a clue how hardware authentication works would make such naive comments. M'Kay Mr. Mackey. How exactly would current iPhones and iPads be expected to authenticate cables if they changed the standard? Wow you are batting a cool .000 today. 

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