I recently saw a bowl of similar cables for sale at a UPS Store. The new franchisee owner promoted them as a good deal because the cables from Apple were expensive. For the owner, he priced these several times his cost. I told him that he was part of the problem and reminded him about the research and development cost that is factored into his phone. I also reminded him of the risk of damaging a customers phone.
It's one of the consequences of US business shipping 50,000 factories (and jobs) overseas. The chinese are stealing our IP and not just cables, but defense, aerospace, etc., etc.
Ugh!
How would keeping those 50,000 factories (and jobs) in the U.S. have made any difference? China could still get their hands on the cables, crack them, reverse-engineer them and be exactly where they are now. Doesn't make one iota of difference.
What's a shame is that even with the media buzzing this, China's government doesn't stop for a moment to think "Gee, we really shouldn't be doing this."
All that R&D that Apple does just ends up saving the copycat artists from having to do their own development. Leeches.
I see China's utter disregard for the IP of foreigners as being analogous to Germany's militarism in the 1930's. I see the same feckless response to those who are witnessing the blatant violation. Whether it's going to be limited to a US vs. China confrontation, or whether it's going to be WWIII, I don't know, but their egregious theft of our technology will require a response.
It's one of the consequences of US business shipping 50,000 factories (and jobs) overseas. The chinese are stealing our IP and not just cables, but defense, aerospace, etc., etc.
I recently saw a bowl of similar cables for sale at a UPS Store. I told [the new franchisee owner] that he was part of the problem .
Hold it. First let's agree on what "the problem" is. To me, the problem is that Apple prices their Lightning accessories at $20-$30. That means when I got a new iPhone that I didn't exactly pay bottom dollar for, I also had to go pay $100 for new cables. If these Chinese companies can sell functionally-equivalent cables for half what Apple is selling them for and still make a profit, then Apple's profiteering is "the problem." Your local UPS franchisee is a symptom, not part of "the problem."
Nope, wrong again. This is a hardware encoding and the point version of an iOS update would never block use of a lightning cable since that would also potentially block legitimate cables or people that had not updated. Besides the fact that the encoding and authentication in lightning has nothing whatsoever to do with an iOS point release.
Well, we only have the company's word that this is cannot be blocked. If they're wrong, good luck getting your money back.
If it is, and it sure seems like it should be, they will have to sneak them into the US. Apple hires some detectives, they find who is importing them, then the Feds go cut some locks, but in the rest of the world it'll be a different story.
Hold it. First let's agree on what "the problem" is. To me, the problem is that Apple prices their Lightning accessories at $20-$30. That means when I got a new iPhone that I didn't exactly pay bottom dollar for, I also had to go pay $100 for new cables. If these Chinese companies can sell functionally-equivalent cables for half what Apple is selling them for and still make a profit, then Apple's profiteering is "the problem." Your local UPS franchisee is a symptom, not part of "the problem."
I would like to see lower prices on Apple necessity accessories as oppose to just accessaries too, but you can't just go into a store and steal something because you believe it is too expensive. I assume this to be consistent with what you would teach your children.
What is it about Asia that makes that part of the world want to rip off technologies developed by American companies? Seriously, this crap needs to stop. Don't Asians learn personal responsibility growing up? Don't they understand the concept of stealing? Or do they just think they are entitled to everything the world creates without paying for those creations?
What is it about Asia that makes that part of the world want to rip off technologies developed by American companies? Seriously, this crap needs to stop. Don't Asians learn personal responsibility growing up? Don't they understand the concept of stealing? Or do they just think they are entitled to everything the world creates without paying for those creations?
I don't think it is healthy to make such broad generalizations about people's ethnicity. If the US did not have such a highly developed judicial system, Americans would still be wearing six shooters, murdering, robbing, slaughtering native people and decimating the natural environment just like they did in the wild west. Not to mention the history of human trafficking and enslavement of Africans. One should take in to consideration that the US is a couple centuries ahead of many other cultures with regard to modern civilization and industrialization.
I don't think it is healthy to make such broad generalizations about people's ethnicity. If the US did not have such a highly developed judicial system, Americans would still be wearing six shooters, murdering, robbing, slaughtering native people and decimating the natural environment just like they did in the wild west.
Even if true, all future devices block them. Cake.
'Kay.
Keep living the dream, man.
Only someone without a clue how hardware authentication works would make such naive comments. M'Kay Mr. Mackey. How exactly would current iPhones and iPads be expected to authenticate cables if they changed the standard? Wow you are batting a cool .000 today.
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I recently saw a bowl of similar cables for sale at a UPS Store. The new franchisee owner promoted them as a good deal because the cables from Apple were expensive. For the owner, he priced these several times his cost. I told him that he was part of the problem and reminded him about the research and development cost that is factored into his phone. I also reminded him of the risk of damaging a customers phone.
Well, it's China after all. Like they even remotely care about IP.
They only care when it's their own IP.Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher126
It's one of the consequences of US business shipping 50,000 factories (and jobs) overseas. The chinese are stealing our IP and not just cables, but defense, aerospace, etc., etc.
Ugh!
How would keeping those 50,000 factories (and jobs) in the U.S. have made any difference? China could still get their hands on the cables, crack them, reverse-engineer them and be exactly where they are now. Doesn't make one iota of difference.
What's a shame is that even with the media buzzing this, China's government doesn't stop for a moment to think "Gee, we really shouldn't be doing this."
All that R&D that Apple does just ends up saving the copycat artists from having to do their own development. Leeches.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
Those Chinese, they crack me up.
Personally, I think anyone that believes that they have irreversibly circumvented Apple's technological IP must be permanently cracked.
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Originally Posted by city
I recently saw a bowl of similar cables for sale at a UPS Store. I told [the new franchisee owner] that he was part of the problem .
Hold it. First let's agree on what "the problem" is. To me, the problem is that Apple prices their Lightning accessories at $20-$30. That means when I got a new iPhone that I didn't exactly pay bottom dollar for, I also had to go pay $100 for new cables. If these Chinese companies can sell functionally-equivalent cables for half what Apple is selling them for and still make a profit, then Apple's profiteering is "the problem." Your local UPS franchisee is a symptom, not part of "the problem."
Well, we only have the company's word that this is cannot be blocked. If they're wrong, good luck getting your money back.
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Originally Posted by Robin Huber
Isn't this a legitimate patent issue?
If it is, and it sure seems like it should be, they will have to sneak them into the US. Apple hires some detectives, they find who is importing them, then the Feds go cut some locks, but in the rest of the world it'll be a different story.
Even if true, all future devices block them. Cake.
'Kay.
Keep living the dream, man.
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Originally Posted by ktappe
Hold it. First let's agree on what "the problem" is. To me, the problem is that Apple prices their Lightning accessories at $20-$30. That means when I got a new iPhone that I didn't exactly pay bottom dollar for, I also had to go pay $100 for new cables. If these Chinese companies can sell functionally-equivalent cables for half what Apple is selling them for and still make a profit, then Apple's profiteering is "the problem." Your local UPS franchisee is a symptom, not part of "the problem."
I would like to see lower prices on Apple necessity accessories as oppose to just accessaries too, but you can't just go into a store and steal something because you believe it is too expensive. I assume this to be consistent with what you would teach your children.
I think it's time to order a few drone strikes. We might as well use that technology for something useful.
Order your cheap Lightning Cables here:
http://ios7.iphone5mod.com
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Originally Posted by Robin Huber
Yes, but no evil unions to deal with!
Yes. Look at how well the Chinese people are doing at Foxcon without a union.
Import ban in 5...4...3...2...
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Originally Posted by AZREOSpecialist
What is it about Asia that makes that part of the world want to rip off technologies developed by American companies? Seriously, this crap needs to stop. Don't Asians learn personal responsibility growing up? Don't they understand the concept of stealing? Or do they just think they are entitled to everything the world creates without paying for those creations?
I don't think it is healthy to make such broad generalizations about people's ethnicity. If the US did not have such a highly developed judicial system, Americans would still be wearing six shooters, murdering, robbing, slaughtering native people and decimating the natural environment just like they did in the wild west. Not to mention the history of human trafficking and enslavement of Africans. One should take in to consideration that the US is a couple centuries ahead of many other cultures with regard to modern civilization and industrialization.
Hey we stop slaughtering the natives years ago.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Even if true, all future devices block them. Cake.
'Kay.
Keep living the dream, man.
Only someone without a clue how hardware authentication works would make such naive comments. M'Kay Mr. Mackey. How exactly would current iPhones and iPads be expected to authenticate cables if they changed the standard? Wow you are batting a cool .000 today.