I originally started out as a lonely programmer then became a trader, mostly Eurex (Futures) and Euronext (indicies) until I got very sick. I was in and out of the hospital for about a year, weekly chemotherapy almost killed me so when I decided it was time to return to work I changed careers back to being a programmer, less stress. However since I had a background in trading as well as programming I was asked to temporally take over the managing role as the guy who had it before transferred to our Hong Kong office. It's been two years now and I haven't been asked to step down so it seems like everything is working out.
That's why Programmers should not be advising people on what platform to choose.
They can advise on what features they can write, etc. etc. But management decisions? NOPE. Sorry, sales people trying to help a customer decide what to buy? Only if they are another programmer doing something similar like programming tools.
What, it wasn't my idea to use Blackberry's. I actually wanted iPhone's so I could go to Apple conferences and call it work related. It was the IT guys that thought the BlackBerry's were the way to go. In all fairness they are pretty good phones and extremely easy to write for, so I guess it worked out in the end.
No objections here. Every hangout has plenty of folks trying to justify their choices by knocking down the 'other guy'. AI panders (and AI staff, you know you do) to that crowd. But hey, can you blame them? Click-bait brings in the ad impression dollars. By all appearances, AC does the same - I'm not pointing at them for it either.
I was just giggling at the assertion that the android-related sites "rarely mention" Apple or iOS - when the first example the OP pointed at was averaging an "Apple"-tagged news pieces 9 times a month (in 2012, maybe 2013 is a slower year), AND had an entire forum section devoted to it (although in fairness, there are 7 other "Other OS'es and Devices" section).
But yeah, it seems it's been slow for AC and really busy for AI on their respective cross-subject-posting fronts lately. :P
In 2012 I spot "iOS" and "Apple" clocking in with 48 and 108 articles, respectively, on androidcentral.com. I also see "Android" and "Samsung" scoring a whopping 219 and 357 hits on appleinsider.com for the same timespan (2012). Easily four times (4x) the number of references on AI as their counterparts on AC.
Interestingly, AI topics have zero hits for "apple" pieces in 2013 so far and only 55 for "ios".
AC racks up 364 hits for "Android" in 2013, and 352 "Samsung" tags.
Maybe Apple and iOS just aren't newsworthy (insofar as the circles that frequent sites like these are concerned). Maybe the sites have different notions on how to tag their content. Whatever. Just having my giggles.
What's the total article count for both sites and how are they tagged?
Article confuses the concept of open. And the compares the profits of a software company (Google) to a hardware company (Apple). Nonsensical comparison.
Apple is not a pure hardware company. Apple is a software company too. They develop the operating system for their hardware.
Apple is pretty much a software company that makes its money selling its hardware by exclusively bundling it with their software.
Not to knock Apple's hardware, it's good; often it's better, but it's not "ten times better" to use a famous Jobs metric as to what it takes for people to switch platforms.
Their software is what makes the big difference between Apple and non-Apple, and so even though their software is cheap or free, it only runs on Apple hardware, and that's where the margins are.
So it's a really interesting type of product bundling, where the truly distinctive part of the product offering is the cheap part, but it's used to sell the less unique, higher-margin part of the bundle.
You just confirmed that it takes 6 MONTHS after Google releases their update. 4.2.2 came out in February.
What about the S2, S1, and the rest of their products that don't even run Jelly Bean, for which represents a bigger portion of their install base. Remember, Gingerbread phones are STILL being sold and have about 35% market share. Then there's the ICE Cream Sandwich, which is about 26% or so.
I have an old iPhone 4, and I ran iOS 6 the day it was released, and iOS 7 comes out, and minor bug fixes, the day they get public release. Android? They have to wait for the OEM to deal with it and that's a 6 month additional wait, if they decide to upgrade your phone.
Would the update situation be much different If Samsung maintained its own proprietary OS instead of letting Google do most of the heavy lifting? Why would they feel any more motivated to update their older devices?
Your military has been using Android phones for a few years now.
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Because of Knox you are going to see a very large increase of enterprise and governments using Android phones. Is this a good thing, who knows but I'm sure Apple will follow suit with something similar.
Follow? Not so much. iOS6 already had FIPS 140-2 encryption baked in and approved by NIST and got STIG approval shortly after Samsung and BB. Given the numbers of iOS devices already under trial there will likely be far more iOS devices deployed than Samsung Galaxies in 2014.
"A key objective of the Commercial Mobile Device Implementation Plan is to establish a department-wide mobile enterprise solution that permits the use of the latest commercial technology such as smart phones and tablets, and the development of an enterprise mobile device management capability and application store to support approximately 100,000 multivendor devices by February 2014. DoD currently has more than 600,000 commercial mobile devices in operational and pilot use, including approximately 470,000 Blackberries, 41,000 Apple Operating Systems and 8,700 Android Systems."
41K vs 8,700. Note that neither Samsung nor Apple has an approved MDM yet and only Blackberry has one. The unified MDM contract was only awarded on 1 July.
And Apple has a huge enterprise footprint relative to Android using the Good MDM. It doesn't need to follow Knox because it's already been there starting with the 3GS and 256 bit AES hardware support in 2009.
My Galaxy Nexus and my iPad look the same to me. I'm notified when an update's available. I don't have to install it. I usually wait a couple weeks to see what early adopter reviews and bug reports look like.
My Galaxy Nexus and my iPad look the same to me. I'm notified when an update's available. I don't have to install it. I usually wait a couple weeks to see what early adopter reviews and bug reports look like.
So you keep hitting cancel on the notification that pops up every 5 minutes?
How could you not notice? You can't do anything with the device unless you hit cancel.
The clear implication of my previous message is that I'm not seeing a notification every 5 minutes. I think I would remember, too. Perhaps our notification settings are different.
The clear implication of my previous message is that I'm not seeing a notification every 5 minutes. I think I would remember, too. Perhaps our notification settings are different.
No, that's not a notification that one can adjust. It might not be 5 minutes but it's definitely not longer than 15.
If your phone is a HTC phone you can turn off the update notifications.
Mine's a Galaxy Nexus, unrooted, so no manufacturer overlay. I'm pretty sure I just got a software update notification when it first arrived. It was persistent (not swipable), but it didn't pop to the top constantly.
I see. The Google Nexus is different, then. I have a bunch of Android devices in my lab, and software updates are usually just put in the notification area, instead of being popups.
For example, my HTC Flyer is constantly putting in a notification entry that an update is available (which I ignore because I like having the current orientation specific hardware buttons). But it's not an in-my-face popup.
Might I ask why you didn't install the update to get rid of the notice? Was it because you had a custom ROM, and also that particular ROM didn't have update notices turned off?
I see. The Google Nexus is different, then. I have a bunch of Android devices in my lab, and software updates are usually just put in the notification area, instead of being popups.
For example, my HTC Flyer is constantly putting in a notification entry that an update is available (which I ignore because I like having the current orientation specific hardware buttons). But it's not an in-my-face popup.
<span style="line-height:1.231;">Might I ask why you didn't install the update to get rid of the notice? Was it because you had a custom ROM, and also that particular ROM didn't have update notices turned off?</span>
Thanks for clearing up the mystery!
Rooted, updates break root. I was really busy that day and didn't have time to flash the rooted update until the next day.
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I originally started out as a lonely programmer then became a trader, mostly Eurex (Futures) and Euronext (indicies) until I got very sick. I was in and out of the hospital for about a year, weekly chemotherapy almost killed me so when I decided it was time to return to work I changed careers back to being a programmer, less stress. However since I had a background in trading as well as programming I was asked to temporally take over the managing role as the guy who had it before transferred to our Hong Kong office. It's been two years now and I haven't been asked to step down so it seems like everything is working out.
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Originally Posted by drblank
That's why Programmers should not be advising people on what platform to choose.
They can advise on what features they can write, etc. etc. But management decisions? NOPE. Sorry, sales people trying to help a customer decide what to buy? Only if they are another programmer doing something similar like programming tools.
What, it wasn't my idea to use Blackberry's. I actually wanted iPhone's so I could go to Apple conferences and call it work related. It was the IT guys that thought the BlackBerry's were the way to go. In all fairness they are pretty good phones and extremely easy to write for, so I guess it worked out in the end.
What's the total article count for both sites and how are they tagged?
One of the better editorials I've read in quite some time. A great read with spot-on analysis. Thanks!
Apple is pretty much a software company that makes its money selling its hardware by exclusively bundling it with their software.
Not to knock Apple's hardware, it's good; often it's better, but it's not "ten times better" to use a famous Jobs metric as to what it takes for people to switch platforms.
Their software is what makes the big difference between Apple and non-Apple, and so even though their software is cheap or free, it only runs on Apple hardware, and that's where the margins are.
So it's a really interesting type of product bundling, where the truly distinctive part of the product offering is the cheap part, but it's used to sell the less unique, higher-margin part of the bundle.
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Originally Posted by drblank
You just confirmed that it takes 6 MONTHS after Google releases their update. 4.2.2 came out in February.
What about the S2, S1, and the rest of their products that don't even run Jelly Bean, for which represents a bigger portion of their install base. Remember, Gingerbread phones are STILL being sold and have about 35% market share. Then there's the ICE Cream Sandwich, which is about 26% or so.
I have an old iPhone 4, and I ran iOS 6 the day it was released, and iOS 7 comes out, and minor bug fixes, the day they get public release. Android? They have to wait for the OEM to deal with it and that's a 6 month additional wait, if they decide to upgrade your phone.
Would the update situation be much different If Samsung maintained its own proprietary OS instead of letting Google do most of the heavy lifting? Why would they feel any more motivated to update their older devices?
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Originally Posted by Relic
Your military has been using Android phones for a few years now.
...
Because of Knox you are going to see a very large increase of enterprise and governments using Android phones. Is this a good thing, who knows but I'm sure Apple will follow suit with something similar.
Follow? Not so much. iOS6 already had FIPS 140-2 encryption baked in and approved by NIST and got STIG approval shortly after Samsung and BB. Given the numbers of iOS devices already under trial there will likely be far more iOS devices deployed than Samsung Galaxies in 2014.
"A key objective of the Commercial Mobile Device Implementation Plan is to establish a department-wide mobile enterprise solution that permits the use of the latest commercial technology such as smart phones and tablets, and the development of an enterprise mobile device management capability and application store to support approximately 100,000 multivendor devices by February 2014. DoD currently has more than 600,000 commercial mobile devices in operational and pilot use, including approximately 470,000 Blackberries, 41,000 Apple Operating Systems and 8,700 Android Systems."
http://www.disa.mil/News/PressResources/2013/STIG-Apple
41K vs 8,700. Note that neither Samsung nor Apple has an approved MDM yet and only Blackberry has one. The unified MDM contract was only awarded on 1 July.
And Apple has a huge enterprise footprint relative to Android using the Good MDM. It doesn't need to follow Knox because it's already been there starting with the 3GS and 256 bit AES hardware support in 2009.
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Originally Posted by Soloman
Android updates are OTA and forced on a user.
What do you mean by "forced on"?
My Galaxy Nexus and my iPad look the same to me. I'm notified when an update's available. I don't have to install it. I usually wait a couple weeks to see what early adopter reviews and bug reports look like.
So you keep hitting cancel on the notification that pops up every 5 minutes?
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Originally Posted by Soloman
So you keep hitting cancel on the notification that pops up every 5 minutes?
I honestly haven't noticed that. I'll pay more attention next time.
How could you not notice? You can't do anything with the device unless you hit cancel.
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Originally Posted by Soloman
How could you not notice? You can't do anything with the device unless you hit cancel.
The clear implication of my previous message is that I'm not seeing a notification every 5 minutes. I think I would remember, too. Perhaps our notification settings are different.
No, that's not a notification that one can adjust. It might not be 5 minutes but it's definitely not longer than 15.
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Originally Posted by Soloman
No, that's not a notification that one can adjust. It might not be 5 minutes but it's definitely not longer than 15.
If your phone is a HTC phone you can turn off the update notifications.
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Originally Posted by DroidFTW
If your phone is a HTC phone you can turn off the update notifications.
Mine's a Galaxy Nexus, unrooted, so no manufacturer overlay. I'm pretty sure I just got a software update notification when it first arrived. It was persistent (not swipable), but it didn't pop to the top constantly.
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Originally Posted by Soloman
How could you not notice? You can't do anything with the device unless you hit cancel.
What kind of device was it ?
A GNex
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Originally Posted by Soloman
A GNex
I see. The Google Nexus is different, then. I have a bunch of Android devices in my lab, and software updates are usually just put in the notification area, instead of being popups.
For example, my HTC Flyer is constantly putting in a notification entry that an update is available (which I ignore because I like having the current orientation specific hardware buttons). But it's not an in-my-face popup.
Might I ask why you didn't install the update to get rid of the notice? Was it because you had a custom ROM, and also that particular ROM didn't have update notices turned off?
Thanks for clearing up the mystery!
Rooted, updates break root. I was really busy that day and didn't have time to flash the rooted update until the next day.
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Originally Posted by Relic
Because of Knox you are going to see a very large increase of enterprise and governments using Android phones.
Samsung specifically, since Knox is their implementation of the secure kernel done by NSA.
Samsung nears deal for FBI and Navy purchases - WSJ
Knox allows for both a personal and a business partition, each totally isolated from the other.