80% of reduced iPad shipments attributable to channel inventory decline

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in iPad edited January 2014
Apple drew down its iPad channel inventory by 1.9 million units during the June quarter, accounting for the lion's share of the year-over-year decrease the company saw in iPad shipments.

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iPad shipments were down for the first time ever in the June quarter, sliding 14 percent to 14.6 million units. The numbers are partially attributable to the fact that Apple launched a third-generation iPad in March of 2012, while no iPad update has yet to arrive in 2013.

"We had just announced the third-generation iPad, which was our first iPad with a Retina display," Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook said. "We had announced it in March, and so that was our first full quarter."

But in addition to a tough comparison from 2012, Apple has also been working to draw down its channel inventory, Cook revealed on Tuesday. Specifically, he said iPad inventory was drawn down by 1.9 million units during the quarter.

That reduction in channel inventory accounted for 80 percent of the 2.4 million less iPads Apple sold this year, Cook noted. He also highlighted stats that show the iPad accounting for a whopping 84 percent of Web traffic from tablets.

"If there are lots of other tablets selling, I don't know what they'e being used for," Cook said. "Because that's a pretty basic function, is Web browsing."

iPad sales to education also saw record highs in the June quarter. And Cook noted that both the iPhone and iPad are finding considerable success in the enterprise.

The CEO said he's not fazed by the drop in iPad sales, characterizing himself as "really happy" with the tablet's performance in June, and stating the year over year drop "was not a surprise to us."
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  • Reply 1 of 88
    herbapouherbapou Posts: 2,228member
    Makes senses, a few months after the ipad 3 launches it was normal to have lots of units in the channel. Now we are a few months away from refreshes, so inventory is low.

    So the mini did compensate :p

    What drove down the stock from its high in the AH is they hint that launches will happen in October instead of september. imo that doesnt meant we wont have something lauching before, but it does confirms there will be something in october.
  • Reply 2 of 88
    macvictamacvicta Posts: 346member
    Oh, okay. Had me worried there for a minute.

    Forgot about the whole no new iPad in March thing, too.
  • Reply 3 of 88
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
    One reason is old iPads still work very well. Unlike iPhone, iPad users do not feel the need to upgrade.
  • Reply 4 of 88
    pendergastpendergast Posts: 1,358member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by herbapou View Post



    Makes senses, a few months after the ipad 3 launches it was normal to have lots of units in the channel. Now we are a few months away from refreshes, so inventory is low.



    So the mini did compensate image



    What drove down the stock from its high in the AH is they hint that launches will happen in October instead of september. imo that doesnt meant we wont have something lauching before, but it does confirms there will be something in october.


     


    What comment indicated October?

  • Reply 5 of 88
    pendergastpendergast Posts: 1,358member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tzeshan View Post



    One reason is old iPads still work very well. Unlike iPhone, iPad users do not feel the need to upgrade.


     


    I'm guessing most growth is due to hand-me-downs; me iPad 2 works great, but I'll get a new one soon, and pass my iPad 2 to a family member.


     


    iPads for everyone.


     


    This is why iOS doesn't support multiple users.

  • Reply 6 of 88
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    tzeshan wrote: »
    One reason is old iPads still work very well. Unlike iPhone, iPad users do not feel the need to upgrade.

    No, you're a worthless subhuman wretch who has no right to talk about any product unless you own the newest model.

    Sorry, lapsed into "complete idiot" there for a second. :lol:
  • Reply 7 of 88
    herbapouherbapou Posts: 2,228member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pendergast View Post


     


    What comment indicated October?



     


    CFO mention it

  • Reply 8 of 88
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    ...fewer iPads..

    Anyway, this seems like a new iPad is on the way.
  • Reply 9 of 88
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    pendergast wrote: »
    What comment indicated October?
    Cook and Oppenheimer mentioned October but that was in reference to the next time they would be able to disclose things to analysts. In other words, we're not discussing new stuff until the next earnings call which is in October.
  • Reply 10 of 88
    ankleskaterankleskater Posts: 1,287member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post





    Cook and Oppenheimer mentioned October but that was in reference to the next time they would be able to disclose things to analysts. In other words, we're not discussing new stuff until the next earnings call which is in October.


    You're sure? How often do they discuss new products in earnings calls?

  • Reply 11 of 88
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    You're sure? How often do they discuss new products in earnings calls?
    I don't remember what the question was but Oppenheimer's answer clearly meant he could talk about it in the next earnings call. Oppenheimer doesn't talk outside of earnings calls does he?
  • Reply 12 of 88
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post





    No, you're a worthless subhuman wretch who has no right to talk about any product unless you own the newest model.



    Sorry, lapsed into "complete idiot" there for a second. image




    I have reported you. 

  • Reply 13 of 88
    herbapouherbapou Posts: 2,228member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post





    Cook and Oppenheimer mentioned October but that was in reference to the next time they would be able to disclose things to analysts. In other words, we're not discussing new stuff until the next earnings call which is in October.


     


    oh, this could still mean we get launches in september indeed.  I need to find is exact words


     


    Update:  yep, he actually said it will be done in october, so september is where the launches will take place. CNBC had this one wrong, they told launches would not happen until october.

  • Reply 14 of 88
    The iPad 3 launch last year makes total sense for lower sales this year. But I question whether drawing down inventory had anything to do with it. I thought Apple counted actual sales to consumers, not stock entering the pipeline. That has been a distinction often made - that many of the droid makers count a product as "sold" as soon as Best Buy places an order. Unless Apple is now doing the same, drawing down channel inventory wouldn't have any effect on numbers sold.
  • Reply 15 of 88
    drblankdrblank Posts: 3,385member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tzeshan View Post



    One reason is old iPads still work very well. Unlike iPhone, iPad users do not feel the need to upgrade.


    The first gen iPads won't run iOS 6, but the iPad 2's a still great, it's just more for the budget conscious market that doesn't need Retina displays. I'm sure a bunch of schools buy them.

  • Reply 16 of 88
    herbapouherbapou Posts: 2,228member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post



    The iPad 3 launch last year makes total sense for lower sales this year. But I question whether drawing down inventory had anything to do with it. I thought Apple counted actual sales to consumers, not stock entering the pipeline. That has been a distinction often made - that many of the droid makers count a product as "sold" as soon as Best Buy places an order. Unless Apple is now doing the same, drawing down channel inventory wouldn't have any effect on numbers sold.


     


    I think Apple has always count units in the channel as sold units.  I know fans here are always saying Apple numbers are sold units, but hey, fanbois will be fanbois. Most the of number is sold units and units in transit indeed, but its never 100% sold units.

  • Reply 17 of 88
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    joebloggs wrote: »
    The iPad 3 launch last year makes total sense for lower sales this year. But I question whether drawing down inventory had anything to do with it. I thought Apple counted actual sales to consumers, not stock entering the pipeline. That has been a distinction often made - that many of the droid makers count a product as "sold" as soon as Best Buy places an order. Unless Apple is now doing the same, drawing down channel inventory wouldn't have any effect on numbers sold.

    The people who made that distinction were idiots.

    Apple reports sales to channel and sales to customer - i.e. online sales from the Apple store. Mostly to channel.
  • Reply 18 of 88
    geekdadgeekdad Posts: 1,131member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post



    The iPad 3 launch last year makes total sense for lower sales this year. But I question whether drawing down inventory had anything to do with it. I thought Apple counted actual sales to consumers, not stock entering the pipeline. That has been a distinction often made - that many of the droid makers count a product as "sold" as soon as Best Buy places an order. Unless Apple is now doing the same, drawing down channel inventory wouldn't have any effect on numbers sold.


    You're right the consensus here has always been Apple only reports sales to customers. Not retailers....

  • Reply 19 of 88
    ankleskaterankleskater Posts: 1,287member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by geekdad View Post


    You're right the consensus here has always been Apple only reports sales to customers. Not retailers....



    There has always been a minority group of us repeatedly explaining that Apple reports shipments and not sales. We have repeatedly stated that the shipped v. sales argument was moot. But we were bashed, stomped and ridiculed as Android fans. 

  • Reply 20 of 88
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    herbapou wrote: »
    I think Apple has always count units in the channel as sold units.  I know fans here are always saying Apple numbers are sold units, but hey, fanbois will be fanbois. Most the of number is sold units and units in transit indeed, but its never 100% sold units.
    But doesn't Apple disclose the channel inventory and tell you the sell through? Does any Android or Windows OEM do that?
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