I missed it? I replied "no 'if' now", didn't I? If you don't understand then just get back and read.
Read the whole thing again.. carefully and slowly.
I think you're wrong. Battery life, screen area, build quality, iOS iPad App Store ecosystem. All these factors make a 32GB iPad mini with IGZO Retina Display worth $399.
32g retina mini at $400 maybe. but the small tablet space is price sensitive, they need a 16g model at 300 or $330 tops. And Apple needs to change its $100 per 16g, with current prices on SSD its getting to obvious you are getting rip off.
That being said, the could get away with a 16g retina at $350 IF its using IGZO panels, that would mean the new mini battery life would be something in the 15 to 20 hours range if they tweaked iOS refresh method. That has some value.
IGZO panels and tweaked screen refresh would put Apple back on top in terms of innovation.
Hardly irrelevant. Users weren't up in arms about last years model battery life as far as I can tell. If this one does better then I'd call that a plus not a negative. I don't see it as any big deal. If a new iPad Mini delivers a Retina-grade display but less battery life than the current Mini I don't think buyers of it will be grabbing the pitchforks.
They will grab pitchforks when the cheap flash memory craps out again and the battery fails to hold a charge after 6 months of usage. Google cuts corners on hardware plain and simple!!!
I think what they found in the code is the ipad mini 1, tweaked for ios7 and repackage in color plastic shells. It doesnt means they wont also be an ipad mini with retina. So 2 new models.
Herb, where are you getting this plastic back rumor from? I asked you in the other thread when you mentioned it.
Nope. another iPad mini with non-retina display is more stupid idea than heavier and thicker model with IPS 326dpi display. Thanks god, Apple knows that.
:no:
What are you talking about? The 9.7" iPad is insanely popular and is the #1 competitor for the iPad mini. It is due for a major refresh, and Apple has been preparing one that is very exciting.
Keep in mind, the next 9.7" iPad is going to have a design similar to the iPad mini....meaninging overall volume is going to be substantially reduced. Very light, much thinner and slimmer in the bezel...
In short, it is going to be strikingly similar to the iPad mini in all of the good ways....but it also carriers a 9.7" Retina Display.
Now go and tell me that Apple plans to introduce a refreshed mini........with Retina display....at the same time.
:no:
Not going to happen.
They will grab pitchforks when the cheap flash memory craps out again and the battery fails to hold a charge after 6 months of usage. Google cuts corners on hardware plain and simple!!!
The "cheap memory" claim came from someone's imagination. As it turns out it was simply software, corrected with the latest version of Android already rolled out to those old Nexus 7's. Reportedly the battery use time has been improved with the new 4.3x update too.
Well if we don't get retina then I hope Cook gets grilled on it so he can tell us why. Because the media meme will be how can Google and Amazon release tablets with retina like displays but Apple can't.
Can you explain to why the iPad mini has sold so well to date? Being the first NEW iOS device introduced without a Retina Display since iPad 2?
Nope. another iPad mini with non-retina display is more stupid idea than heavier and thicker model with IPS 326dpi display. Thanks god, Apple knows that.
You can say that, and all things considered it may indeed be a bad idea, but it's also a very bad idea to not have a new iPad mini this year, so if they really are having problems with the screen then it's almost a certainty that they will come out with a non-Retina one instead.
He is a super fanboy, but he definitely has a point there.
I don't like Gruber much but I disagree that he is a "fanboy."
A fanboy is supposed to be like a true believer or a "member of the cult" sort of speak, meaning that their opinions are irrational and not necessarily based on anything factual. He's actually a smart guy and I have yet to see him say anything about Apple or Apple's products that isn't based in hard fact and actually quite easy to back up with same. He also constantly post retractions and corrections when he is wrong. When he gets opinionated about stuff it's usually along the lines of "I really prefer this,"or "look at this great design." These are not the words of a rabid fanboy.
The only time I've seen him get truly irrational is when he makes the odd statement that has a homophobic or misogynistic kind of tinge to it like when he had that rant about the CNET journalist that changed genders, or when he pops off about some "asshole" journalist but does it in true asshole fashion himself. None of that has anything to do with his Apple reporting though and they are rare occurrences. That's just his own personal baggage.
I don't like Gruber much but I disagree that he is a "fanboy."
A fanboy is supposed to be like a true believer or a "member of the cult" sort of speak, meaning that their opinions are irrational and not necessarily based on anything factual. He's actually a smart guy and I have yet to see him say anything about Apple or Apple's products that isn't based in hard fact and actually quite easy to back up with same. He also constantly post retractions and corrections when he is wrong. When he gets opinionated about stuff it's usually along the lines of "I really prefer this,"or "look at this great design." These are not the words of a rabid fanboy.
The only time I've seen him get truly irrational is when he makes the odd statement that has a homophobic or misogynistic kind of tinge to it like when he had that rant about the CNET journalist that changed genders, or when he pops off about some "asshole" journalist but does it in true asshole fashion himself. None of that has anything to do with his Apple reporting though and they are rare occurrences. That's just his own personal baggage.
I hate the term "Fanboy", can't people get off that word and just the word "USER", like it should. I may use Apple products and like using them, but I don't always agree with everything Apple does. If I was an Android user, I would certainly be upset that the Android OEMs don't always upgrade the OS to the latest version and there isn't consistency between devices. To me, that's a BIG deal. Even Microsoft doesn't play that game where each OEM is able to modify the OS to that extent. Oh well, I guess kids growing up today have no IT business sense anymore and all they care about is FREE apps, customization, rooting their system and sideloading apps and getting Google Glass to look REAL stupid in public places. That's all they seem to care about. Oh well, I'm hoping they will grow up, but unfortunately, most of them won't.
I hate the term "Fanboy", can't people get off that word and just the word "USER", like it should. I may use Apple products and like using them, but I don't always agree with everything Apple does. If I was an Android user, I would certainly be upset that the Android OEMs don't always upgrade the OS to the latest version and there isn't consistency between devices. To me, that's a BIG deal. Even Microsoft doesn't play that game where each OEM is able to modify the OS to that extent. Oh well, I guess kids growing up today have no IT business sense anymore and all they care about is FREE apps, customization, rooting their system and sideloading apps and getting Google Glass to look REAL stupid in public places. That's all they seem to care about. Oh well, I'm hoping they will grow up, but unfortunately, most of them won't.
Oh, that's much better than using fanboy (which I hate too). Instead of Android users juist call them all stupid looking kids with no business sense who need to grow up but never will.
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If the Mini is selling for $249, I'll buy 2.
"I. Don't. Like. That."
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Originally Posted by Ireland
I think you're wrong. Battery life, screen area, build quality, iOS iPad App Store ecosystem. All these factors make a 32GB iPad mini with IGZO Retina Display worth $399.
32g retina mini at $400 maybe. but the small tablet space is price sensitive, they need a 16g model at 300 or $330 tops. And Apple needs to change its $100 per 16g, with current prices on SSD its getting to obvious you are getting rip off.
That being said, the could get away with a 16g retina at $350 IF its using IGZO panels, that would mean the new mini battery life would be something in the 15 to 20 hours range if they tweaked iOS refresh method. That has some value.
IGZO panels and tweaked screen refresh would put Apple back on top in terms of innovation.
Huh?
You mean like the way the price varied for every other iOS device that went from non-Retina to Retina...?
:rolleyes:
Herb, where are you getting this plastic back rumor from? I asked you in the other thread when you mentioned it.
:no:
What are you talking about? The 9.7" iPad is insanely popular and is the #1 competitor for the iPad mini. It is due for a major refresh, and Apple has been preparing one that is very exciting.
Keep in mind, the next 9.7" iPad is going to have a design similar to the iPad mini....meaninging overall volume is going to be substantially reduced. Very light, much thinner and slimmer in the bezel...
In short, it is going to be strikingly similar to the iPad mini in all of the good ways....but it also carriers a 9.7" Retina Display.
Now go and tell me that Apple plans to introduce a refreshed mini........with Retina display....at the same time.
:no:
Not going to happen.
Ebay has 'em.
The "cheap memory" claim came from someone's imagination. As it turns out it was simply software, corrected with the latest version of Android already rolled out to those old Nexus 7's. Reportedly the battery use time has been improved with the new 4.3x update too.
Can you explain to why the iPad mini has sold so well to date? Being the first NEW iOS device introduced without a Retina Display since iPad 2?
It'll be a gem!
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Originally Posted by poksi
Nope. another iPad mini with non-retina display is more stupid idea than heavier and thicker model with IPS 326dpi display. Thanks god, Apple knows that.
You can say that, and all things considered it may indeed be a bad idea, but it's also a very bad idea to not have a new iPad mini this year, so if they really are having problems with the screen then it's almost a certainty that they will come out with a non-Retina one instead.
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Originally Posted by Ireland
He is a super fanboy, but he definitely has a point there.
I don't like Gruber much but I disagree that he is a "fanboy."
A fanboy is supposed to be like a true believer or a "member of the cult" sort of speak, meaning that their opinions are irrational and not necessarily based on anything factual. He's actually a smart guy and I have yet to see him say anything about Apple or Apple's products that isn't based in hard fact and actually quite easy to back up with same. He also constantly post retractions and corrections when he is wrong. When he gets opinionated about stuff it's usually along the lines of "I really prefer this,"or "look at this great design." These are not the words of a rabid fanboy.
The only time I've seen him get truly irrational is when he makes the odd statement that has a homophobic or misogynistic kind of tinge to it like when he had that rant about the CNET journalist that changed genders, or when he pops off about some "asshole" journalist but does it in true asshole fashion himself. None of that has anything to do with his Apple reporting though and they are rare occurrences. That's just his own personal baggage.
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
I don't like Gruber much but I disagree that he is a "fanboy."
A fanboy is supposed to be like a true believer or a "member of the cult" sort of speak, meaning that their opinions are irrational and not necessarily based on anything factual. He's actually a smart guy and I have yet to see him say anything about Apple or Apple's products that isn't based in hard fact and actually quite easy to back up with same. He also constantly post retractions and corrections when he is wrong. When he gets opinionated about stuff it's usually along the lines of "I really prefer this,"or "look at this great design." These are not the words of a rabid fanboy.
The only time I've seen him get truly irrational is when he makes the odd statement that has a homophobic or misogynistic kind of tinge to it like when he had that rant about the CNET journalist that changed genders, or when he pops off about some "asshole" journalist but does it in true asshole fashion himself. None of that has anything to do with his Apple reporting though and they are rare occurrences. That's just his own personal baggage.
I hate the term "Fanboy", can't people get off that word and just the word "USER", like it should. I may use Apple products and like using them, but I don't always agree with everything Apple does. If I was an Android user, I would certainly be upset that the Android OEMs don't always upgrade the OS to the latest version and there isn't consistency between devices. To me, that's a BIG deal. Even Microsoft doesn't play that game where each OEM is able to modify the OS to that extent. Oh well, I guess kids growing up today have no IT business sense anymore and all they care about is FREE apps, customization, rooting their system and sideloading apps and getting Google Glass to look REAL stupid in public places. That's all they seem to care about. Oh well, I'm hoping they will grow up, but unfortunately, most of them won't.
Oh, that's much better than using fanboy (which I hate too). Instead of Android users juist call them all stupid looking kids with no business sense who need to grow up but never will.