<strong>I have a Wireless Logitech Keyboard and Optical Mouse. I have not had to change the Battery's once since I got it in October. I use my machine between 5-10 hours a day 7 days a week now that's pretty dam good battery life.</strong><hr></blockquote>
oh yea, the battery life is est. 4-6 months I think....with a lithium battery it would probably be more like 12 months
How about selling corded keyboards to schools? Or is that not intuitive enough for you?</strong><hr></blockquote>
WOW! great idea!
introducing more variables into the system adds exponential complexity. and with what value gained? if you had suggested selling wireless kb's as an 'aftermarket' part, i wouldn't think quite so poorly of you. but then again, it's clear from this thread that there isn't any overwhelming desire for such a product.
<strong>I have a Wireless Logitech Keyboard and Optical Mouse. I have not had to change the Battery's once since I got it in October. I use my machine between 5-10 hours a day 7 days a week now that's pretty dam good battery life.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Do you have the regular optical wireless or the MouseMan Wireless Optical? I have the MouseMan and I have to change the battieries every 1.5-2 months.
<strong>Uh - you have one cord 3mm in diameter from your mouse to your keyboard, and another going around to the back of your computer.</strong><hr></blockquote>
actually if you use ADC as apple wants you to, the cord would go to the display, so you wouldnt even need to connect it to your computer, minimizing clutter even more...
I would LOVE this idea if the two following things happened:
They fixed the power problem (I will go into detail later on)
They fixed the lag issues. The problem I have noticed, while not so much on the keyboard, the mouse easily lags. This would be the first problem they would need to fix. On a side note, making the range many many feet , but also making it possible to assign certain channels to each, because of how many computers I run in a concentrated area.
Now back to the first problem I mentioned.. I am thinking of a few ways this could be solved. First of all on the mouse, I am pretty sure this would not work, BUT, if they put a ball in the mouse BESIDES the optical technology that would trickle charge a Li-Polymer battery. Not only that, but putting solar cells in the mouse. It is a pretty crazy idea, but if they added servo kinetics to it as well, I think they could capture enough power to keep it working. Now, for the keyboard, I am unsure on what they could do.. Maybe inventing a way to capture power through keypresses, and the inclusion of solar cells. Those are my crazy far out ideas. I am sure they would do nothing like this, but if SOMEHOW they made it work, I would be ready to buy into it.
actually if you use ADC as apple wants you to, the cord would go to the display, so you wouldnt even need to connect it to your computer, minimizing clutter even more...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Good point...I was thinking in terms of the iMac, probably since that's the machine the thread starter talked about.
a cordless mouse/keyboard combo would be a wonderful option. i hate cables and often have to present work on a huge screen at work.
unplug the machine, unplug all the peripherals, take it into the presentation room, set the machine up under the table and then run the cables around the desk. not to mention that i have to use crappy 3rd-party mouse & k/b with extra-long cables.
gimme a wireless mouse and k/b anyday, let me set my G4 up on the desk in the corner, impress the daylights outta the clients and be wire-free.
let the experts get their heads round the power issue. on another thread some chap told me how his cordless toothbrush recharges when left close to the base. i am sure apple could do something similar. these peripherals use so little power that if you can put a LiPolymer battery in, they should last muuuuuuuch longer than AAA batteries.
and to all the denouncers of the cordless, what are you gonna say when apple DO release the cordless mouse & k/b? you gonna complain? didn't think so
I like the idea of a wireless keyboard/mouse, it would make a nice option - as long as you could park it on a docking station like a cordless phone or have it have solar cells to charge it, BUT: what about security? AFAIK the usual cordless keyboards are easy to intercept/read with another receiver, and will also cross-talk with other computers nearby... (think of an educational setting with *lots* of computers crammed into one little room...). Encryption? Random frequency hopping or something?
A friend of mine has a wireless keyboard/mouse and *loves* doing his stuff lying on the sofa, the monitor put up like a TV set, also doubles nicely as a DVD(computer) remote control.
<strong>I like the idea of a wireless keyboard/mouse, it would make a nice option - as long as you could park it on a docking station like a cordless phone or have it have solar cells to charge it, BUT: what about security? AFAIK the usual cordless keyboards are easy to intercept/read with another receiver, and will also cross-talk with other computers nearby... (think of an educational setting with *lots* of computers crammed into one little room...). Encryption? Random frequency hopping or something?
A friend of mine has a wireless keyboard/mouse and *loves* doing his stuff lying on the sofa, the monitor put up like a TV set, also doubles nicely as a DVD(computer) remote control.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The docking station goes where?
The desk.
How's it get its power?
A cord.
So now rather than just a keyboard/mouse on the desk with very thin translucent cords, we have a keyboard/mouse and a keyboard-length (at least) docking station on the desk.
Yeah, that's a whole lot less clutter. Sleek and impressive - pure genius. Sign me up.
I would love a wireless keyboard an wireless mouse that have adocking station to USB or FW that recieved wireless signals and recharged them when plugged in.
Seriously, a keyboard ddoes not take m uch power to operate. You could power one for 20 hours on an iPod's battery.
<strong>I would love a wireless keyboard an wireless mouse that have adocking station to USB or FW that recieved wireless signals and recharged them when plugged in.
Seriously, a keyboard ddoes not take m uch power to operate. You could power one for 20 hours on an iPod's battery.</strong><hr></blockquote>
How many times have we been over this? I don't understand how people can be so dense - its a bit worrisome. A docking station adds just as many cords as would be hanging off your computer anyway, PLUS introduces another device to clutter up your desk. Why bother? This takes away the small but single advantage of a wireless keyboard. And I'll say again: it's not as if you can read normal-size type from more than 4-5 feet from the screen anyway, and you'd still need some kind of surface for the mouse...if you want to be able to use your computer from all over the place, get a PowerBook.
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<strong>I have a Wireless Logitech Keyboard and Optical Mouse. I have not had to change the Battery's once since I got it in October. I use my machine between 5-10 hours a day 7 days a week now that's pretty dam good battery life.</strong><hr></blockquote>
oh yea, the battery life is est. 4-6 months I think....with a lithium battery it would probably be more like 12 months
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How about selling corded keyboards to schools? Or is that not intuitive enough for you?</strong><hr></blockquote>
WOW! great idea!
introducing more variables into the system adds exponential complexity. and with what value gained? if you had suggested selling wireless kb's as an 'aftermarket' part, i wouldn't think quite so poorly of you. but then again, it's clear from this thread that there isn't any overwhelming desire for such a product.
"come on, let's dilute apple even MORE!"
<strong>You guys don't get it.
I'm not saying it's the determining factor of whether or not I buy one. It's a nice feature.
Just like an LCD display. A CRT works just fine but it's more cumbersome.
On another level, it just looks cleaner without all the cords. Someday we'll wonder why we ever had corded telephones.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Uh - you have one cord 3mm in diameter from your mouse to your keyboard, and another going around to the back of your computer.
And they're clear.
And you need something even *cleaner*?
Wtf? Really, this is nothing to put a bullet in your head over. Were you attacked by a rogue power cable as a child or something?
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<strong>I have a Wireless Logitech Keyboard and Optical Mouse. I have not had to change the Battery's once since I got it in October. I use my machine between 5-10 hours a day 7 days a week now that's pretty dam good battery life.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Do you have the regular optical wireless or the MouseMan Wireless Optical? I have the MouseMan and I have to change the battieries every 1.5-2 months.
<strong>Guys, contrary to popular belief... most people actually hate buying AAA batteries twice a month just for their mouse and keyboard.
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Maybe the batteries will be rechargable through the wireless interface.
<strong>Uh - you have one cord 3mm in diameter from your mouse to your keyboard, and another going around to the back of your computer.</strong><hr></blockquote>
actually if you use ADC as apple wants you to, the cord would go to the display, so you wouldnt even need to connect it to your computer, minimizing clutter even more...
They fixed the power problem (I will go into detail later on)
They fixed the lag issues. The problem I have noticed, while not so much on the keyboard, the mouse easily lags. This would be the first problem they would need to fix. On a side note, making the range many many feet , but also making it possible to assign certain channels to each, because of how many computers I run in a concentrated area.
Now back to the first problem I mentioned.. I am thinking of a few ways this could be solved. First of all on the mouse, I am pretty sure this would not work, BUT, if they put a ball in the mouse BESIDES the optical technology that would trickle charge a Li-Polymer battery. Not only that, but putting solar cells in the mouse. It is a pretty crazy idea, but if they added servo kinetics to it as well, I think they could capture enough power to keep it working. Now, for the keyboard, I am unsure on what they could do.. Maybe inventing a way to capture power through keypresses, and the inclusion of solar cells. Those are my crazy far out ideas. I am sure they would do nothing like this, but if SOMEHOW they made it work, I would be ready to buy into it.
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actually if you use ADC as apple wants you to, the cord would go to the display, so you wouldnt even need to connect it to your computer, minimizing clutter even more...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Good point...I was thinking in terms of the iMac, probably since that's the machine the thread starter talked about.
a cordless mouse/keyboard combo would be a wonderful option. i hate cables and often have to present work on a huge screen at work.
unplug the machine, unplug all the peripherals, take it into the presentation room, set the machine up under the table and then run the cables around the desk. not to mention that i have to use crappy 3rd-party mouse & k/b with extra-long cables.
gimme a wireless mouse and k/b anyday, let me set my G4 up on the desk in the corner, impress the daylights outta the clients and be wire-free.
let the experts get their heads round the power issue. on another thread some chap told me how his cordless toothbrush recharges when left close to the base. i am sure apple could do something similar. these peripherals use so little power that if you can put a LiPolymer battery in, they should last muuuuuuuch longer than AAA batteries.
and to all the denouncers of the cordless, what are you gonna say when apple DO release the cordless mouse & k/b? you gonna complain? didn't think so
VIVA freedom of expression.
VIVA dreaming
Wireless mice suck ass, especially for gaming and graphics.
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A friend of mine has a wireless keyboard/mouse and *loves* doing his stuff lying on the sofa, the monitor put up like a TV set, also doubles nicely as a DVD(computer) remote control.
With the proper antennas/receivers, and equipment for a few $100k etc, you can keylog a keyboard over several hundred meters distance...
Admittably that stuff is likely only going to fall into hands of spies, FBI and the like, but it can be done. (and surely is done, for that matter)
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<strong>I like the idea of a wireless keyboard/mouse, it would make a nice option - as long as you could park it on a docking station like a cordless phone or have it have solar cells to charge it, BUT: what about security? AFAIK the usual cordless keyboards are easy to intercept/read with another receiver, and will also cross-talk with other computers nearby... (think of an educational setting with *lots* of computers crammed into one little room...). Encryption? Random frequency hopping or something?
A friend of mine has a wireless keyboard/mouse and *loves* doing his stuff lying on the sofa, the monitor put up like a TV set, also doubles nicely as a DVD(computer) remote control.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The docking station goes where?
The desk.
How's it get its power?
A cord.
So now rather than just a keyboard/mouse on the desk with very thin translucent cords, we have a keyboard/mouse and a keyboard-length (at least) docking station on the desk.
Yeah, that's a whole lot less clutter. Sleek and impressive - pure genius. Sign me up.
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Just go buy your own damn wireless keyboard and leave the corded ones with everyone else here
Really? Can I?
Why don't you learn to engage in a debate or is that too difficult for you to grasp.
<strong>it's clear from this thread that there isn't any overwhelming desire for such a product.
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Well, apparantly there is some interest.
But, I don't know why many have gotten so worked up over this thread.
As I stated in my earlier thread, the wireless keyboard would be a nice feature if implemented correctly.
If offered as an option, I'd take it. Others may not.
Seriously, a keyboard ddoes not take m uch power to operate. You could power one for 20 hours on an iPod's battery.
<strong>I would love a wireless keyboard an wireless mouse that have adocking station to USB or FW that recieved wireless signals and recharged them when plugged in.
Seriously, a keyboard ddoes not take m uch power to operate. You could power one for 20 hours on an iPod's battery.</strong><hr></blockquote>
How many times have we been over this? I don't understand how people can be so dense - its a bit worrisome. A docking station adds just as many cords as would be hanging off your computer anyway, PLUS introduces another device to clutter up your desk. Why bother? This takes away the small but single advantage of a wireless keyboard. And I'll say again: it's not as if you can read normal-size type from more than 4-5 feet from the screen anyway, and you'd still need some kind of surface for the mouse...if you want to be able to use your computer from all over the place, get a PowerBook.
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