Thats just the issue with T-Mobile. They're coverage sucks. They're still 2G here where I live. Everyone else is 4G LTE. Unless you live in a city you're screwed. I used to be on T-Mobile with an few Android phonesand their coverage was never stellar.
Nationwide T-Mobile's data network in terms of speed came in second place just right behind AT&T. Verizon as third place. Sprint a distant fourth place. In Ann Arbor Michigan, T-Mobile has great coverage.
I tell you what as a T-Mobile customer I was pissed after it changed its original pricing around after a month. I was going to get an iPhone 5 on my birthday approximately a month after it was first offered. Without warning, however, it upped the price.
You used T-Mobile prior to that or they changed right before you wanted to sign up? I know they used to offer more 4G/HSPA data at $50/month, 1GB as opposed 512MB.
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Originally Posted by TBell
Nationwide T-Mobile's data network in terms of speed came in second place just right behind AT&T. Verizon as third place. Sprint a distant fourth place. In Ann Arbor Michigan, T-Mobile has great coverage.
You can't get stable service in some suburbs, especially inside buildings where Verizon is fine. It's not bad compared to AT&T though.
I held off on making my iPhone purchase for the T-Mobile Un-Carrier plan... I was willing to take the hit in network availability for the sake of having a somewhat low cost (By American Standards) unlimited plan. So it one way, I can see where he is right. But on the flip side, I would not have gone this route if they did not have the iPhone.
Fortunately, there are alternatives where you don't have to sacrifice network availability. Straight Talk and Net 10 come to mind. $45 per month, unlimited everything and they use the networks of the major providers.
Straight Talk and Net 10 come to mind. $45 per month, unlimited everything.......
$45 per month - is that for SIM only?
If it is, how would unlimited data, 2000 minutes to any network, 5000 texts & 5000 minutes to your own network for the equivalent of $22 per month (£15) sound?
Nationwide T-Mobile's data network in terms of speed came in second place just right behind AT&T. Verizon as third place. Sprint a distant fourth place. In Ann Arbor Michigan, T-Mobile has great coverage.
I could care less how fast their coverage is. The fact of the matter is that getting a signal in a lot of places sucks and when you do its not anywhere near the quality of coverage of the others. Of course, Ann Arbor Michigan has great coverage, its a city. Try going it a rural area outside a city and see how great T-Mobile is.
If it is, how would unlimited data, 2000 minutes to any network, 5000 texts & 5000 minutes to your own network for the equivalent of $22 per month (£15) sound?
Yep... BYOP... SIM only, or buy one of their phones at retail price. No subsidy.
Straight Talk no longer sells AT&T-compatible SIM cards, so good luck if T-Mobile isn't good in your area. I switched to Net10 for two reasons. 1: Net10 is $5 per month cheaper for 2 phones; 2: Net10 doesn't cut you off for occasional streaming of data when using AT&T-compatible SIM cards, and they clearly state a data limit of 1.5GB per month, which I'm fine with. I'm not a data hog.
As with everything, read the fine print. Straight Talk just has a little more of it.
I'm still patiently waiting for T-Mobile to upgrade my area, the largest city between Pittsburgh and Harrisburg, to anything better than EDGE. As soon as they do, I'm jumping ship. I'd much rather have a phone that runs natively on a carrier, instead of using patches or hacks for iPhone data and MMS as with Net10 and Straight Talk. And, no, I won't pay full-price for a Verizon-spec iPhone that's almost useless outside of Straight Talk. If I'm paying that kind of money, I'm buying one unlocked direct from Apple and using the SIM of my choice.
I could care less how fast their coverage is. The fact of the matter is that getting a signal in a lot of places sucks and when you do its not anywhere near the quality of coverage of the others. Of course, Ann Arbor Michigan has great coverage, its a city. Try going it a rural area outside a city and see how great T-Mobile is.
People like that are like many tech journalists... they think the whole country lives in major cities, which also seems to be T-Mobile's thinking as well. Outside of their bubble of a big city, they have no idea that there are many smaller cities throughout the country that have a combined population in the millions. T-Mobile just plain sucks if you live in a city that's small enough that you have to say the name of the state it's in when brought up in conversation. Everyone knows where Pittsburgh, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Houston etc. are, without mention of their respective states. Those are the only places T-Mobile seems to want customers, even though we see TONS of T-Mobile commercials in my area...
Fortunately, there are alternatives where you don't have to sacrifice network availability. Straight Talk and Net 10 come to mind. $45 per month, unlimited everything and they use the networks of the major providers.
@jragosta : Thanks for the info. I only have a few more months left here so no longer much of a help to me.
People like that are like many tech journalists... they think the whole country lives in major cities, which also seems to be T-Mobile's thinking as well. Outside of their bubble of a big city, they have no idea that there are many smaller cities throughout the country that have a combined population in the millions. T-Mobile just plain sucks if you live in a city that's small enough that you have to say the name of the state it's in when brought up in conversation. Everyone knows where Pittsburgh, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Houston etc. are, without mention of their respective states. Those are the only places T-Mobile seems to want customers, even though we see TONS of T-Mobile commercials in my area...
Less than 20% of US population is rural (http://www.census.gov/geo/reference/ua/urban-rural-2010.html). At least 2500 people must live in an urban area. I'm sure there are "urban" areas where T-Mobile does not work. Obviously T-Mobile is going to go where they get the most bang for the buck. I live in the suburbs of Atlanta and have never had any issue with T-Mobile. Back when I was with AT&T, I had trouble all over Atlanta (and Cingular was based in Atlanta!). I'm with Sprint now and their coverage sucks the most. T-Mobile's first and second line are still too expensive if you have paid for a phone outright. But you can't beat $25 per month unlimited talk+text+data (5GB HSPA+) per line. For many, many people in the US, that's easily the best plan. On top of that, their customer service and attitude is much better than either AT&T or Verizon. As soon as the new Nexus comes along (or the Note 3), I'm off Sprint and on to T-Mobile. I have always bought my phones outright and have not signed a contract for years now. I keep changing providers and use Google Voice. No one knows my mobile number so I can do this whenever I want.
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Originally Posted by macxpress
Thats just the issue with T-Mobile. They're coverage sucks. They're still 2G here where I live. Everyone else is 4G LTE. Unless you live in a city you're screwed. I used to be on T-Mobile with an few Android phones and their coverage was never stellar.
Nationwide T-Mobile's data network in terms of speed came in second place just right behind AT&T. Verizon as third place. Sprint a distant fourth place. In Ann Arbor Michigan, T-Mobile has great coverage.
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Originally Posted by TBell
LOL. That is funny.
I tell you what as a T-Mobile customer I was pissed after it changed its original pricing around after a month. I was going to get an iPhone 5 on my birthday approximately a month after it was first offered. Without warning, however, it upped the price.
You used T-Mobile prior to that or they changed right before you wanted to sign up? I know they used to offer more 4G/HSPA data at $50/month, 1GB as opposed 512MB.
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Originally Posted by TBell
Nationwide T-Mobile's data network in terms of speed came in second place just right behind AT&T. Verizon as third place. Sprint a distant fourth place. In Ann Arbor Michigan, T-Mobile has great coverage.
You can't get stable service in some suburbs, especially inside buildings where Verizon is fine. It's not bad compared to AT&T though.
Fortunately, there are alternatives where you don't have to sacrifice network availability. Straight Talk and Net 10 come to mind. $45 per month, unlimited everything and they use the networks of the major providers.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Straight Talk and Net 10 come to mind. $45 per month, unlimited everything.......
$45 per month - is that for SIM only?
If it is, how would unlimited data, 2000 minutes to any network, 5000 texts & 5000 minutes to your own network for the equivalent of $22 per month (£15) sound?
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Originally Posted by TBell
Nationwide T-Mobile's data network in terms of speed came in second place just right behind AT&T. Verizon as third place. Sprint a distant fourth place. In Ann Arbor Michigan, T-Mobile has great coverage.
I could care less how fast their coverage is. The fact of the matter is that getting a signal in a lot of places sucks and when you do its not anywhere near the quality of coverage of the others. Of course, Ann Arbor Michigan has great coverage, its a city. Try going it a rural area outside a city and see how great T-Mobile is.
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Originally Posted by AdyB
$45 per month - is that for SIM only?
If it is, how would unlimited data, 2000 minutes to any network, 5000 texts & 5000 minutes to your own network for the equivalent of $22 per month (£15) sound?
Yep... BYOP... SIM only, or buy one of their phones at retail price. No subsidy.
Straight Talk no longer sells AT&T-compatible SIM cards, so good luck if T-Mobile isn't good in your area. I switched to Net10 for two reasons. 1: Net10 is $5 per month cheaper for 2 phones; 2: Net10 doesn't cut you off for occasional streaming of data when using AT&T-compatible SIM cards, and they clearly state a data limit of 1.5GB per month, which I'm fine with. I'm not a data hog.
As with everything, read the fine print. Straight Talk just has a little more of it.
I'm still patiently waiting for T-Mobile to upgrade my area, the largest city between Pittsburgh and Harrisburg, to anything better than EDGE. As soon as they do, I'm jumping ship. I'd much rather have a phone that runs natively on a carrier, instead of using patches or hacks for iPhone data and MMS as with Net10 and Straight Talk. And, no, I won't pay full-price for a Verizon-spec iPhone that's almost useless outside of Straight Talk. If I'm paying that kind of money, I'm buying one unlocked direct from Apple and using the SIM of my choice.
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Originally Posted by macxpress
I could care less how fast their coverage is. The fact of the matter is that getting a signal in a lot of places sucks and when you do its not anywhere near the quality of coverage of the others. Of course, Ann Arbor Michigan has great coverage, its a city. Try going it a rural area outside a city and see how great T-Mobile is.
People like that are like many tech journalists... they think the whole country lives in major cities, which also seems to be T-Mobile's thinking as well. Outside of their bubble of a big city, they have no idea that there are many smaller cities throughout the country that have a combined population in the millions. T-Mobile just plain sucks if you live in a city that's small enough that you have to say the name of the state it's in when brought up in conversation. Everyone knows where Pittsburgh, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Houston etc. are, without mention of their respective states. Those are the only places T-Mobile seems to want customers, even though we see TONS of T-Mobile commercials in my area...
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Fortunately, there are alternatives where you don't have to sacrifice network availability. Straight Talk and Net 10 come to mind. $45 per month, unlimited everything and they use the networks of the major providers.
@jragosta : Thanks for the info. I only have a few more months left here so no longer much of a help to me.
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People like that are like many tech journalists... they think the whole country lives in major cities, which also seems to be T-Mobile's thinking as well. Outside of their bubble of a big city, they have no idea that there are many smaller cities throughout the country that have a combined population in the millions. T-Mobile just plain sucks if you live in a city that's small enough that you have to say the name of the state it's in when brought up in conversation. Everyone knows where Pittsburgh, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Houston etc. are, without mention of their respective states. Those are the only places T-Mobile seems to want customers, even though we see TONS of T-Mobile commercials in my area...
Less than 20% of US population is rural (http://www.census.gov/geo/reference/ua/urban-rural-2010.html). At least 2500 people must live in an urban area. I'm sure there are "urban" areas where T-Mobile does not work. Obviously T-Mobile is going to go where they get the most bang for the buck. I live in the suburbs of Atlanta and have never had any issue with T-Mobile. Back when I was with AT&T, I had trouble all over Atlanta (and Cingular was based in Atlanta!). I'm with Sprint now and their coverage sucks the most. T-Mobile's first and second line are still too expensive if you have paid for a phone outright. But you can't beat $25 per month unlimited talk+text+data (5GB HSPA+) per line. For many, many people in the US, that's easily the best plan. On top of that, their customer service and attitude is much better than either AT&T or Verizon. As soon as the new Nexus comes along (or the Note 3), I'm off Sprint and on to T-Mobile. I have always bought my phones outright and have not signed a contract for years now. I keep changing providers and use Google Voice. No one knows my mobile number so I can do this whenever I want.