Could this possibly be an investment for Apple JUST to keep a company like Samsung from buying it also? Not that Apple would actually do anything with it but bury it in it's backyard. More than likely won't happen, but IJS.
Considering the anti-trust issues I can't imagine the governments involved would sign off on it.
one way or another, BB will be liquidated by next year. if Motorola's patents were worth $12 billion (less what they got selling off parts of the company) to Google, BB's patents must be worth about the same to whoever. right now its market cap is $5.3 billion. Samsung probably thinks it could use them, yes.
and QNX is the only alternative OS readily available. but i don't think Samsung feels it needs another given its investment in Tizen. and what other OEM would dare, given the total fiasco that HP's purchase of Palm for Web OS proved to be? even tho the $1.2 billion price HP paid was chicken feed.
Nokia of course should buy BB to save itself from inevitable assimilation by MS'. but Nokia can't sink that much cash anymore into a different OS that will take one/two years to fully integrate with its products and services (the few it has left). in hindsight it's clear Nokia and BB should have merged 3 years ago, but both were far too proud at the time to realize it.
so the BB patents will probably be auctioned off to a consortium of companies, like Kodak's were last year for a measly $250 million (unless they can find another big sucker like Google), and the hardware line + brand name scooped up cheap by whatever not-Samsung Asian OEM that is determined to stay in the smartphone business long term and needs its own OS. sounds like HTC to me ...
They built and sold so much shit all those years it feels like a bad dream ....
You obviously never owned a Blackberry.
When BB came on the scene they were as much of a jump in tech as the iPhone was when it was released.
BBs were well built and lasted for years. Lots of great features and its messaging system was second to none. I still miss the little red flashing light to let me know a call, email or text had arrived whenever I was making too much noise to hear the phone.
RIM's failure wasn't in its ability to innovate, its failure was in the two knobs who used to run the company... they refused to open their eyes. Google realized what was happening when the iPhone was released and changed direction.
I would like to see Apple buy RIM. Besides the patents RIM owns, their experience in the datacenter could help shore up the one area where Apple is sorely lacking IMHO.
See the realistic fact of criticising iPhone and now BB is facing the consequences of their unethical marketing strategies the same fate will take care of Nokia and the greatest underdog Microsoft of the current century
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Cue: a signal (as a word, phrase, or bit of stage business) to a performer to begin a specific speech or action
Queue: a waiting line especially of persons or vehicles
Que: Spanish for 'that' or 'which'
See the realistic fact of criticising iPhone and now BB is facing the consequences of their unethical marketing strategies the same fate will take care of Nokia and the greatest underdog Microsoft of the current century
That can't be! Amateur hour and the smartphone beta test are both over!
Maybe HP will be dumb enough to buy Blackberry. They were certainly dumb enough to buy Palm.
I don't think Palm was a dumb purchase. HP's inability to properly utilize Palm was the dumb part. Palm just didn't seem to fit HP's corporate dna. It looked interesting to HP, so they bought it, but then they studied it like it was an alien in a glass cage. Eventually it just died.
Could this possibly be an investment for Apple JUST to keep a company like Samsung from buying it also? Not that Apple would actually do anything with it but bury it in it's backyard. More than likely won't happen, but IJS.
I'd be happy with an Apple takeover of RIM,
if Apple would update my Playbook software, which RIM stopped supporting.
Well on another thought, no way as it would be so negative for my Apple stock price.
It's unfortunate really. They used to provide good competition which spurs on innovation. Seeing as Samsung doesn't innovate, who is left to continue pushing Apple to innovate?
Shame. It didn't make me switch from iOS, but BB10 is pretty nice. I hope they manage to pull it together, RIM are a competitor I respect (for their technology, not their business sense or current situation) much more than Android and its major OEM.
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Considering the anti-trust issues I can't imagine the governments involved would sign off on it.
deathwatch. so sad.
one way or another, BB will be liquidated by next year. if Motorola's patents were worth $12 billion (less what they got selling off parts of the company) to Google, BB's patents must be worth about the same to whoever. right now its market cap is $5.3 billion. Samsung probably thinks it could use them, yes.
and QNX is the only alternative OS readily available. but i don't think Samsung feels it needs another given its investment in Tizen. and what other OEM would dare, given the total fiasco that HP's purchase of Palm for Web OS proved to be? even tho the $1.2 billion price HP paid was chicken feed.
Nokia of course should buy BB to save itself from inevitable assimilation by MS'. but Nokia can't sink that much cash anymore into a different OS that will take one/two years to fully integrate with its products and services (the few it has left). in hindsight it's clear Nokia and BB should have merged 3 years ago, but both were far too proud at the time to realize it.
so the BB patents will probably be auctioned off to a consortium of companies, like Kodak's were last year for a measly $250 million (unless they can find another big sucker like Google), and the hardware line + brand name scooped up cheap by whatever not-Samsung Asian OEM that is determined to stay in the smartphone business long term and needs its own OS. sounds like HTC to me ...
2014: bye-bye BB and Nokia.
2015: bye-bye Sony
deathwatch. so sad.
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Originally Posted by Disturbia
They built and sold so much shit all those years it feels like a bad dream ....
You obviously never owned a Blackberry.
When BB came on the scene they were as much of a jump in tech as the iPhone was when it was released.
BBs were well built and lasted for years. Lots of great features and its messaging system was second to none. I still miss the little red flashing light to let me know a call, email or text had arrived whenever I was making too much noise to hear the phone.
RIM's failure wasn't in its ability to innovate, its failure was in the two knobs who used to run the company... they refused to open their eyes. Google realized what was happening when the iPhone was released and changed direction.
Amateur hour is finally ending.
That's a relief.
FYI:
Cue: a signal (as a word, phrase, or bit of stage business) to a performer to begin a specific speech or action
Queue: a waiting line especially of persons or vehicles
Que: Spanish for 'that' or 'which'
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Originally Posted by jeejucm
See the realistic fact of criticising iPhone and now BB is facing the consequences of their unethical marketing strategies the same fate will take care of Nokia and the greatest underdog Microsoft of the current century
That can't be! Amateur hour and the smartphone beta test are both over!
Originally Posted by JupiterOne
We see this so much...
FYI:
Cue: a signal (as a word, phrase, or bit of stage business) to a performer to begin a specific speech or action
Queue: a waiting line especially of persons or vehicles
Que: Spanish for 'that' or 'which'
Also:
Q: '... a highly powerful entity from a race of omnipotent, godlike beings also known as the "Q".'
(Memory Alpha: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Q)
Q: Fictional character in the James Bond series, head of Q Division (formerly known as Q Branch.)
Q stands for "Quartermaster," and is actually a job title.
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Originally Posted by drblank
Maybe HP will be dumb enough to buy Blackberry. They were certainly dumb enough to buy Palm.
I don't think Palm was a dumb purchase. HP's inability to properly utilize Palm was the dumb part. Palm just didn't seem to fit HP's corporate dna. It looked interesting to HP, so they bought it, but then they studied it like it was an alien in a glass cage. Eventually it just died.
Originally Posted by dasanman69
And then what?
And then maybe we get a competitor that doesn't base their business on stealing everything they do from Apple.
Originally Posted by lkrupp
Exactly. I'd rather have fierce competition to Apple than an Apple hegemony like Microsoft's in the 90s.
Maybe once we have some real competition, you'll feel better.
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Originally Posted by TechManMike
Could this possibly be an investment for Apple JUST to keep a company like Samsung from buying it also? Not that Apple would actually do anything with it but bury it in it's backyard. More than likely won't happen, but IJS.
I'd be happy with an Apple takeover of RIM,
if Apple would update my Playbook software, which RIM stopped supporting.
Well on another thought, no way as it would be so negative for my Apple stock price.
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Originally Posted by jfc1138
But what about all those nice "lifetime iPhone" users that have "just switched" to BB?
It's the other way jfc1138.
So many BB users moved on to other phones, RIM can't sell enough BBs to make a go of it.
Isn't that was BlackBerry already is? How is them dying off going to spurn more competitors. It's not exactly a easy market to get started in.
"BlackBerry convenes special committee to decide company's future"
Decide? I really don't think they have a say in the matter. Smartphone customers have already made the decision for them.
Originally Posted by dasanman69
It's not exactly a easy market to get started in.
Apple did it. And killed Blackberry in six years. It's obviously not as hard as the old guard thought.
You should take time to think through things.
I have serious doubts that what Apple did can be replicated. It's kinda like Daffy Duck's trick, it can only be done once.
Shame. It didn't make me switch from iOS, but BB10 is pretty nice. I hope they manage to pull it together, RIM are a competitor I respect (for their technology, not their business sense or current situation) much more than Android and its major OEM.