Apple's request to conduct 3D mapping of Oslo denied by Norwegian government



  • Reply 41 of 49
    @gqb No they did not which i think is wrong because both services does the same only different.
  • Reply 42 of 49
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,784member
    I guess that Stockholm, Paris, Madrid, Rome, Berlin, Copenhagen, San Francisco, Boston, Los Angeles, New York City (including WTC site), Silicon Valley (NASA Ames), Pasadena (Cal Tech), La Canada (JPL) et al -- are not concerned about terrorism -- or have resolved the issues.

    It seems odd that one can take a 3D Flyover tour of the Eiffel Tower -- but not the Washington Monument... Or the London House Of Parliament and Downing Street -- but not US Senate/House and the White House...

    It appears that some governments are more concerned with their own safety than that of their constituents.

    Now there's a surprise ... eh?
  • Reply 43 of 49
    rcfarcfa Posts: 1,124member


    Originally Posted by Marvin View Post


    Acting director of the NSA Øyvind Mandt told the publication on Monday that Apple's application was denied due to the high precision of the Flyover feature, which maps photographic images over 3D renderings. Such photos can inadvertently reveal secure government installations and classified "sensitive areas."

    Well we certainly wouldn't want the NSA feeling like someone was invading their privacy.

    Different NSA, I'd assume. But of course, same mind set....

  • Reply 44 of 49
    rcfarcfa Posts: 1,124member


    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

    I've been to Oslo before. It's one of my least favorite cities. It's poorly laid out, hard to find your way around and extremely expensive, though it reminds me of a third world city, with many third world people wandering around and plenty of beggars. Having said that, the rest of Norway is nice, with the fjords and all, I just stay away from Oslo.

    They're also hypocrites, because I know that many of them were in support of Snowden leaking US secrets, but I guess when it comes to their own secrets, then their tune suddenly changes.


    Oslo isn't "pooly laid out", it's organically grown, like most cities in countries that have a real history and didn't either have a dictator or a natural disaster that razed the city to start out from scratch to build cities for the orientation challenged people of today and motor traffic. You'll find similar irregular layouts in just about any historic city in Europe. Some places the geography results in easier to navigate places, sometimes in more difficult to navigate places, but this isn't a matter of city planning and "laying out a city", it's a matter of dealing with a historically grown structure.


    Besides, if Oslo reminds of a third world city, I wonder what third world countries you have visited; besides, what are "third world people"? Anyone who doesn't have his Arian certificate stapled to his chest, or what?


    If a country is full of third world cities, then it's the US that didn't use top unemployment and record low interest rates to fix an infrastructure that's crumbling everywhere, and will make it ever more difficult for the US to be a competitive industrialized nation. A few years from now, UPS and FedEx will probably need to buy tanks, just so they can deliver packages over dilapidated inner city streets without getting stuck in man-sized potholes.


    As for the Snowden case: this has really nothing to do with it. Most people who are outraged by what Snowden revealed (and what smart people guessed was happening being aware of the Patriot Act) have no problem with governments collecting intelligence and protecting critical assets. What most people have trouble with is the blanket surveillance of just about everyone, and the break-down of the firewall between police and intelligence communities, since measures that may be potentially be justifiable to prevent another 911 style attack certainly are not appropriate to use to catch a few drug dealers, tax dodgers, or other types of criminals; lest we want to live in a Minority Report style society where you get arrested for just having thoughts or the genetic make-up of a potential criminal.

  • Reply 45 of 49
    probablyprobably Posts: 139member
    Strange given that Oslo was a demo city for the mapping company that Apple bought to make Flyover ( )

    It has already been airplane-mapped once, at least.
  • Reply 45 of 49
    probablyprobably Posts: 139member
    Strange given that Oslo was a demo city for the mapping company that Apple bought to make Flyover ( )

    It has already been airplane-mapped once, at least.
  • Reply 47 of 49
    icoco3icoco3 Posts: 1,474member

    Pixelate the entire city and wipe your hands of it....NEXT


  • Reply 48 of 49
    freerangefreerange Posts: 1,597member
    tokyojimu wrote: »
    I wish Apple would stop wasting time on Flyover and just fix all the serious problems with Maps (not to mention the problems with iPhoto).
    So you live in China and are saying this? Give us a break! The maps Apple uses in China are from Chinese companies authorized by the government, as required. Actually, I live here also and find them to be very accurate. So not sure what the hell you are talking about.
  • Reply 49 of 49
    Welcome to the post-Snowden world where companies like Apple, Facebook and Google will have a much harder time getting approvals from governments abroad for these sort of services.
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