I find it tiresome when elitists rail on about "Faux News", as though their somehow any different than any of the other news sources available in the USA. This isn't a right vs left sort of thing as far as I'm concerned. The state of news reporting in the USA is awful. ALL the channels bias the news in order to put forth a particular message either overtly or as an earlier poster said by what they don't say. All the news sources mentioned above, like Fox News, are run by advertising and they all exhibit a bias. To imply otherwise is at best disingenuous.
sorry to tire you out. on a site like AI, where iSheep, Samesum, Samscum, samesumg are used so frequently, i would think one would mind calling a 24 hour TV channel by its proper name, Faux News.
More Apps for the apple TV are great - otherwise its only good for (dangerous..... overpriced rentals) and for me its greatest feature Air Play. Netflix, HBO, news, might make the ATV more sellable to non Apple product users. Someone mentioned maybe sky news prevented bbc headline news app - i Hope not - th Sky news one (ignoring any bias - we've bashed bias to death) lacks the wider coverage (IMHO)
but thank you sir, for grouped me with the ELITE, and on that note, beaming smugly, Im off to get a very expensive coffee.
I wasn't the one making the initial comment about the BBC being as far left (I won't repeat the diatribe again) as was asserted.
Apparently, the BBC seems "far left" to some folks but seems "centrist" to you. To me, this is a subjective argument of relative positions, but your other comment seemed to imply to the other poster: "the BBC isn't biased... you are". That's the message I got, anyway.
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Originally Posted by digitalclips
My comment stands in the context of that post and one cannot take a small part of what I said, without with the context and make sense of it.
Well, I thought your comment was a bit on the snide side, and deserved to be scrutinized. So I proposed another point of view. And your response supported it...
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Originally Posted by digitalclips
Of course I prefer the BBC as it is centrist, non religious and pro science and not extreme (IMHO) and of course I see it and the world at large through my own tinted lenses as we all do.
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Apparently, the BBC seems "far left" to some folks but seems "centrist" to you. To me, this is a subjective argument of relative positions, but your other comment seemed to imply to the other poster: "the BBC isn't biased... you are". That's the message I got, anyway.
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Well, I thought your comment was a bit on the snide side, and deserved to be scrutinized. So I proposed another point of view. And your response supported it...
Bingo. So we are in violent agreement then.
Yes we agree, so if you go back and read the initial post and my reply again I was simply saying what we are both agreeing with. I wasn't being snide at all, although I was taken aback by the ferocity of his attack on the venerable Beeb. To us Brits that's tantamount to treason ... We are talking about the home of Monty Python, Dr. Who, Black Adder ... I mean come on!
Besides if "The Walking Dead" is all you watch from AMC you will not be tuning in to the brand new Season of "Mad Men", therefore AMC gets exactly $0 advertising, from you, since you did not tune in to the latter. That's what today's TV ratings are all about.
I find it tiresome when elitists rail on about "Faux News", as though their somehow any different than any of the other news sources available in the USA. This isn't a right vs left sort of thing as far as I'm concerned...
They're not a valid news source, they're are an entertainment channel, and have even argued that fact in court. That's why Faux News is a perfect fit for it.
Unbiased reporting still exists, but it sure doesn't come out of Faux News. You have to find a source without an agenda, one that just wants to REPORT the news. There aren't many left - so the best thing for anyone to do, is look at several sources, preferably that aren't owned/paid for by big corporations or governments.
Let's work on getting Amazon Prime in there, folks.
Only when I find a way to get rid of empty brown cardboard boxes faster ... Our Fed Ex guy already thinks he lives here ... Oh wait, there he is again ...
Let's work on getting Amazon Prime in there, folks.
That would be awesome. I rarely take advantage of my Prime membership as it is because I forget that the streaming services are there. I hate firing up the PS3 just to stream a movie. I'd much rather use my Apple TV for stuff like that.
Let's work on getting Amazon Prime in there, folks.
Screw 'em. They think they can pay off the government to be the only company to sell eBooks, they can enjoy being the only service not on Apple TV when it destroys the television industry.
The Smithsonian Channel is open and free content as far as I can tell, Disney requires logging in, which is not getting away from the cord, just tied up more in it. They are not going to get a damned thing until they are willing to bring on the commercials. You are not going to get content for free. I would rather have commercials than having to pay anything more for television and if folk want it without commercials, they can pay for it. But having to sign in with cable or dish access to watch anything on the Apple tv is just stupid. UNless of course we could share the log ins. Well we haven' cut the cable, but we may be up on cutting the f'n costs.
They're not a valid news source, they're are an entertainment channel, and have even argued that fact in court. That's why Faux News is a perfect fit for it.
Unbiased reporting still exists, but it sure doesn't come out of Faux News. You have to find a source without an agenda, one that just wants to REPORT the news. There aren't many left - so the best thing for anyone to do, is look at several sources, preferably that aren't owned/paid for by big corporations or governments.
They are ALL "entertainment channels". Televised journalism is the 7 eleven hot dog of news meats. Singling out Fox, is to ignore that what you're eating is a parasite infested, pseudo-meat log that's got the clerk's hair, skin flakes and shoe print baked into the surface.
You can't get good journalism in 30second to 5 minute televised bursts, neither can you get it from 200-300 word articles in daily periodicals (also known as newspapers). These mediums have always been quick, low quality, rash and shoddy outlets for journalism, they are basically little more than simplistic headline feedbags strapped to the faces of the lazy. The commercials themselves are more reliable sources of fact and truth.
There's no intellectual upside of moral superiority to finding fault with one channel vs another. It's just a symptom of hysterical political wonkery, where the eternal slap fight between team D and R is supposed to be the primary reason for all existence.
Let's also table this TV "science" nonsense, it's sciencish entertainment fodder at best. If you're science diet is TV reporting, then you're feeding your brain garbage. Doesn't matter if its BBC, NBC, Fox or whoever. Watching TV does not make you smart. Learning takes real effort (as in "work") not sitting on your couch wind-bagging about the relative "truth" of daily televised entertainment.
Full iOS 7 in Apple TV refresh at media event on Sep 10. Can we see 16GB or 32GB Apple TV too? Damn, full iOS 7 32GB Apple TV as game console would kick ass PS4 and Xbox One right before they're even launched. Game console is what Apple haven't touched and by putting full iOS in Apple TV and increasing internal storage, Apple will be able to rule the gaming world with this iOS little set top box. Great card to play against Sony and Microsoft, Apple. Who still wants a $499 dedicated console anymore?
I'll bite - Anyone who games that doesn't PC game.
AppleTV is user interface and transport medium that barely keeps up with mid-level 1080p streamed rendering. It has a shot at parity with heavily subsidized $499.99 consoles?
I'll bite - Anyone who games that doesn't PC game.
AppleTV is user interface and transport medium that barely keeps up with mid-level 1080p streamed rendering. It has a shot at parity with heavily subsidized $499.99 consoles?
That puzzles me, mine have no issues playing 1080p and that's true even if my wife is also watching another film on another Apple TV in 1080p at the same time. I'm using FiOS 75/50 and Apple Time Capsule Router going via HDMI to 60" Sharp Aquos and Sony TVs. I don't get rez dropping, stutter, lag or audio sync issues ever these days (I have seen all of those years ago on earlier hardware). I can also use Airplay or Air Parrot to throw 1080p .mkv video at them from various MacBook Pros without any hassle. Games from iPad likewise although I have no idea what their rez is.
What is your config?
I do reckon we are in for a leap in tech spec on new Apple TVs soon anyway ....
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Originally Posted by night9hawk
I find it tiresome when elitists rail on about "Faux News", as though their somehow any different than any of the other news sources available in the USA. This isn't a right vs left sort of thing as far as I'm concerned. The state of news reporting in the USA is awful. ALL the channels bias the news in order to put forth a particular message either overtly or as an earlier poster said by what they don't say. All the news sources mentioned above, like Fox News, are run by advertising and they all exhibit a bias. To imply otherwise is at best disingenuous.
sorry to tire you out. on a site like AI, where iSheep, Samesum, Samscum, samesumg are used so frequently, i would think one would mind calling a 24 hour TV channel by its proper name, Faux News.
More Apps for the apple TV are great - otherwise its only good for (dangerous..... overpriced rentals) and for me its greatest feature Air Play. Netflix, HBO, news, might make the ATV more sellable to non Apple product users. Someone mentioned maybe sky news prevented bbc headline news app - i Hope not - th Sky news one (ignoring any bias - we've bashed bias to death) lacks the wider coverage (IMHO)
but thank you sir, for grouped me with the ELITE, and on that note, beaming smugly, Im off to get a very expensive coffee.
I guess when you have nothing to contribute just start trolling...
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Originally Posted by digitalclips
I wasn't the one making the initial comment about the BBC being as far left (I won't repeat the diatribe again) as was asserted.
Apparently, the BBC seems "far left" to some folks but seems "centrist" to you. To me, this is a subjective argument of relative positions, but your other comment seemed to imply to the other poster: "the BBC isn't biased... you are". That's the message I got, anyway.
Quote:
Originally Posted by digitalclips
My comment stands in the context of that post and one cannot take a small part of what I said, without with the context and make sense of it.
Well, I thought your comment was a bit on the snide side, and deserved to be scrutinized. So I proposed another point of view. And your response supported it...
Quote:
Originally Posted by digitalclips
Of course I prefer the BBC as it is centrist, non religious and pro science and not extreme (IMHO) and of course I see it and the world at large through my own tinted lenses as we all do.
Bingo. So we are in violent agreement then.
Yes we agree, so if you go back and read the initial post and my reply again I was simply saying what we are both agreeing with. I wasn't being snide at all, although I was taken aback by the ferocity of his attack on the venerable Beeb. To us Brits that's tantamount to treason ...
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Originally Posted by TheDBA
Besides if "The Walking Dead" is all you watch from AMC you will not be tuning in to the brand new Season of "Mad Men", therefore AMC gets exactly $0 advertising, from you, since you did not tune in to the latter. That's what today's TV ratings are all about.
Who in their right mind would do that?!?!?!
And enough about BBC... please!
Sorry I'd already posted ... enough indeed ...:) However ... I'd love the BBC on Apple TV ... oops there I go again ...
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Originally Posted by night9hawk
I find it tiresome when elitists rail on about "Faux News", as though their somehow any different than any of the other news sources available in the USA. This isn't a right vs left sort of thing as far as I'm concerned...
They're not a valid news source, they're are an entertainment channel, and have even argued that fact in court. That's why Faux News is a perfect fit for it.
Unbiased reporting still exists, but it sure doesn't come out of Faux News. You have to find a source without an agenda, one that just wants to REPORT the news. There aren't many left - so the best thing for anyone to do, is look at several sources, preferably that aren't owned/paid for by big corporations or governments.
Let's work on getting Amazon Prime in there, folks.
Europe, anyone?
Only when I find a way to get rid of empty brown cardboard boxes faster ... Our Fed Ex guy already thinks he lives here ... Oh wait, there he is again ...
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Originally Posted by Creep
Let's work on getting Amazon Prime in there, folks.
That would be awesome. I rarely take advantage of my Prime membership as it is because I forget that the streaming services are there. I hate firing up the PS3 just to stream a movie. I'd much rather use my Apple TV for stuff like that.
Originally Posted by Creep
Let's work on getting Amazon Prime in there, folks.
Screw 'em. They think they can pay off the government to be the only company to sell eBooks, they can enjoy being the only service not on Apple TV when it destroys the television industry.
Originally Posted by WisdomSeed
But having to sign in with cable or dish access to watch anything on the Apple tv is just stupid.
Huddler only lets me +1 this once. That's insufficient.
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Originally Posted by mjtomlin
They're not a valid news source, they're are an entertainment channel, and have even argued that fact in court. That's why Faux News is a perfect fit for it.
Unbiased reporting still exists, but it sure doesn't come out of Faux News. You have to find a source without an agenda, one that just wants to REPORT the news. There aren't many left - so the best thing for anyone to do, is look at several sources, preferably that aren't owned/paid for by big corporations or governments.
They are ALL "entertainment channels". Televised journalism is the 7 eleven hot dog of news meats. Singling out Fox, is to ignore that what you're eating is a parasite infested, pseudo-meat log that's got the clerk's hair, skin flakes and shoe print baked into the surface.
You can't get good journalism in 30second to 5 minute televised bursts, neither can you get it from 200-300 word articles in daily periodicals (also known as newspapers). These mediums have always been quick, low quality, rash and shoddy outlets for journalism, they are basically little more than simplistic headline feedbags strapped to the faces of the lazy. The commercials themselves are more reliable sources of fact and truth.
There's no intellectual upside of moral superiority to finding fault with one channel vs another. It's just a symptom of hysterical political wonkery, where the eternal slap fight between team D and R is supposed to be the primary reason for all existence.
Let's also table this TV "science" nonsense, it's sciencish entertainment fodder at best. If you're science diet is TV reporting, then you're feeding your brain garbage. Doesn't matter if its BBC, NBC, Fox or whoever. Watching TV does not make you smart. Learning takes real effort (as in "work") not sitting on your couch wind-bagging about the relative "truth" of daily televised entertainment.
My cable provider isn't included. Give us the option to subscribe to individual channels.
Full iOS 7 in Apple TV refresh at media event on Sep 10. Can we see 16GB or 32GB Apple TV too? Damn, full iOS 7 32GB Apple TV as game console would kick ass PS4 and Xbox One right before they're even launched. Game console is what Apple haven't touched and by putting full iOS in Apple TV and increasing internal storage, Apple will be able to rule the gaming world with this iOS little set top box. Great card to play against Sony and Microsoft, Apple. Who still wants a $499 dedicated console anymore?
I'll bite - Anyone who games that doesn't PC game.
AppleTV is user interface and transport medium that barely keeps up with mid-level 1080p streamed rendering. It has a shot at parity with heavily subsidized $499.99 consoles?
Originally Posted by ChristophB
AppleTV is user interface and transport medium that barely keeps up with mid-level 1080p streamed rendering.
"Barely"?
That puzzles me, mine have no issues playing 1080p and that's true even if my wife is also watching another film on another Apple TV in 1080p at the same time. I'm using FiOS 75/50 and Apple Time Capsule Router going via HDMI to 60" Sharp Aquos and Sony TVs. I don't get rez dropping, stutter, lag or audio sync issues ever these days (I have seen all of those years ago on earlier hardware). I can also use Airplay or Air Parrot to throw 1080p .mkv video at them from various MacBook Pros without any hassle. Games from iPad likewise although I have no idea what their rez is.
What is your config?
I do reckon we are in for a leap in tech spec on new Apple TVs soon anyway ....