The key "feature" will be reliability. To date fingerprint sensors have been notoriously unreliable. Andy Ihnatko has been hammering away on this point on the MacBreak Weekly podcast. It has to always work on the first swipe and it has to be completely reliable. If not, most people will simply turn the feature off after a few tries. Who can be bothered swiping their finger two or three times to unlock their phone. If Apple has this truly nailed then it could be huge. If not then it will just be another tech spec that goes ignored and unused.
I suspect Samsuck didn't know what to do with its fingerprint tech until all the rumors started flying around
It is not a feature war, it is all about how it gets implemented. How transparent it is. I guess Samsung will put a fingerprint reader like the ones we get in some laptops. From the rumors we assume Apple will place it in the home button. On the software side I hope this introduces the option to have personalized icon layouts for different users of a device and encryption.
gazoobee wrote: »
Actually we do. Authentec is no longer licensing it's tech, and the only devices out there that still use it are using the old tech, not the new stuff that Apple is presumably about to announce.
Word in the industry is that Authentec is/was the best, and supposedly their new stuff (the stuff that Apple bought) makes their old stuff look bad by comparison. Therefore it would seem likely that Samsungs scanner, whatever it is, will be less capable, less reliable and less easy to use than Apple's, either by a little, or by a lot. We shall soon see in any case.
Like iPhone antenna and maps?
mercury99 wrote: »
Like iPhone antenna and maps?
It has been done before on smart phones (Motorola ATRIX) so nothing new whether Samsung or Apple does it. It all comes down to implementation and where it will take you in the future. Samsung is all show and Apple does things to do then right and make them useful long term.
You won't be surprised about Samsung's hype, that is for sure.
If by better you mean constantly and everywhere, then yes
I'm quite sure Authentec is working on something big or else Apple wouldn't have dropped $350 million on them. Compare that to what Apple paid for PA Semi and Intrinsity (who are arguably responsible for the most important part of iOS devices, the A-Series processors).
However, we still don't know what their actually technology is. Meanwhile Validity's website talks about how they have the smallest and most accurate sensor but they don't say who or what they're comparing it to.
Well at the time Apple acquired them they had just announced a revolutionary new type of sensor that had two main qualities touted. One was the ability to detect whether the finger in question was "alive" (supposedly going around the old "cut off his finger and take it with you" trick), and the other was the ability to integrate the detector into a standard touchscreen so that you wouldn't have to use a prissy little chip or put your finger in any particular place on the side of the phone etc.
If rumours are correct, Apple hasn't availed itself of this later idea and is instead putting a silly little sensor in the home button, so we won't really know what kind of tech they are using or what version of Authentec's ideas they are using until it comes out. It's pretty much a lock that whatever it is, it's better than whatever Samsung is using, but beyond that we will have to wait a few weeks to find out.
Nobody puts a Galaxy Note in their pocket.
My boss does, though he wears alot of cargo type pants.
bcode wrote: »
I doubt it... Samsung could be the first to put a completely useless, easily by-passable fingerprint scanner in a mobile device - sure.
I sincerely doubt that they have mastered secure fingerprint scanning, as Apple likely has.
If anyone remembers, Mythbusters beat a plethora of scanners with simply a photocopy of a fingerprint... Just any fingerprint scanner won't do, I'm afraid.
I was thinking about that article....
I guess we'll see what becomes of it later today
It's pretty well documented how Authentec's technology is purported to work. It's hard to fake a 3D fingerprint.
Agreed the fingerprint should be part of the authentication
1) The device Identifier should be paired with the AppleID, and should have a password to marry the 2
2) the fingerprint then verifies to the device that the person is who they say they are
3) the combo platter to external internet applications get Identity(device, password (app specific... from keychain), fingerprint)... if any 2 of the 3 don't match, then raise alerts.
The key item is that the iOS device becomes a token, that is smart enough to take 2 forms of authentication. It's hard not to miss your IOS device, and if it requires a fingerprint scan at the time of a fraudulent purpose... it's even harder not to miss your finger(s);-)
But, I am waiting for the first iPhone plus finger amputation theft.