I'll have to check as I forget what it was now … but I was using something in either Mavericks or iOS 7 yesterday and noticed it used Apple Maps where the previous iteration had used Google … I think things are changing over.
Oh please, yes, get back to us on this one.
side bar / I was shocked to see leather stitching is still on Find My Friends in the latest updates … surely that will be gone by the GM particularly as that is the epitome of the criticism in that area.
Really? I don't see it at beta.icloud.com Did you clear your browsers' cache?
Having said that I am thrilled with the realistic use of graphics in Logic pro X
You keep mentioning Logic. I love music, but do not create. Can't play an instrument. Still, after taking the FCPX Pro Lab I will sign up for Logic, just because I like your enthusiasm!
I am trying iCloud at the moment at my summer house in the middle of nowhere over a lousy 3G network (download speed 1,5 M, upload 1,5 M) and Pages is incredibly fast! Can't wait to get back home to try it over proper internet connection.
I'm using 15" MacBook Pro (2,6 GHz Core i7, 16 GB RAM).
A lot of people are posting responses like this, all I can say is that what I described is exactly how it worked for me.
I do a lot of writing and I'm generally working with a document that's around 100,000+ words or about 400-500 pages. When I tested it I was at work on an iMac on gigabit ethernet at an organisation that forms part of the internet backbone so there shouldn't be any speed problem with my connection.
I am of course not in Southern California. I find it frustrating that so much of the time when someone like me posts a speed problem the internet becomes alive with "works like a rocket for me" comments all mostly coming from Americans, and primarily Americans living in Southern California. Speeds will no doubt vary around the world.
Scrolling issues like the one I described would seem to me to be far more concerned with the browser cacheing than internet speeds anyway. For any web based editing program to work well, it needs to be able to effectively cache documents of multiple gigabytes in size (at minimum) and sync the changes back and forth to the cloud.
If it really is reaching into the cloud for data when I scroll unexpectedly from page one to page 251, then that's just a bad design IMO. Perhaps they have optimised the performance for the typical two page, "I'm making a flyer for my lost cat!" document and not for people doing actual work. Again I think this is a horrible mistake if true and simply, bad design.
I won't go on further as it is a beta, but it has a lot of problems from my point of view and they have made some bad design choices IMO (like having documents open at a set default resolution instead of "fit to width" without letting the user set or alter that default resolution). The lack of support for plain old English as a language is also alarming. It needs to launch with multi-language support at minimum. I can't imagine they will really launch it without supporting the main English language and I will be shocked (and very complainy) if they do.
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In regards iWork in general (not just the web version), I'm just disappointed in the disrespect Apple has shown for what are for me, a central and very important applications. The lack of any significant updates or effort on their part, and the lack of attention to detail is atrocious. The idea that they seem to actually think their work is "done" or "good enough" and are thinking of making the whole thing free as part of a loss leader package to sell hardware infuriates me. I've got a lot invested.
A lot of users like me *believed* Apple when they said they were serious about making the iWork apps serious competitors. I think they've let down all those people who actually took them at their word and moved all their creation away from Office to iWork. I think they owe the users of iWork apps, who have been suffering all this time, a far bigger apology than the one they gave to the few users who lost data on MobileMe.
If the team leader for iWork apps was in front of me at this moment I'd step on his/her foot and slap them in the face.
And I say that as a lifelong Apple supporter and someone who has never actually hit anyone in their life.
Just like giving iTunes and iPod access PC users was a lost cause.
totally different situation there. They created PC versions, not a website App. Point is moot. Had you quoted the first part of my post you'd see I address that situation in my response.
I'd say the most promising thing to come from this is the fact that Apple is in fact addressing that the iWork suite needs to be addressed, with regards to market saturation and actually updating the apps.
Wrong, try again.
iCloud.com is not a PC version of iCloud. I cannot access iTunes, the iTunes or App Store. I cannot access any of my email, messages, etc. that aren't just my iCloud emails ( which I never use). To me, this iCloud.com should just be a web iOS emulator, but it isn't. It's a pointless website that I've never had a need for. If I can get to the Internet I usually have a phone on me. So it's all pointless.
iCloud.com is not a PC version of iCloud. I cannot access iTunes, the iTunes or App Store. I cannot access any of my email, messages, etc. that aren't just my iCloud emails ( which I never use). To me, this iCloud.com should just be a web iOS emulator, but it isn't. It's a pointless website that I've never had a need for. If I can get to the Internet I usually have a phone on me. So it's all pointless.
Sure, acceptably, is a word, it may not be in any dictionary and have any meaning that is part of the English language, but these days, it's just as much of a word as biotch or beotch or whatever the spelling is for the different pronunciation of the word bitch.
iCloud.com is not a PC version of iCloud. I cannot access iTunes, the iTunes or App Store. I cannot access any of my email, messages, etc. that aren't just my iCloud emails ( which I never use). To me, this iCloud.com should just be a web iOS emulator, but it isn't. It's a pointless website that I've never had a need for. If I can get to the Internet I usually have a phone on me. So it's all pointless.
What would happen if your phone got stolen, or the battery died and you were at a friend's house that had a PC or a Mac that wasn't yours and you wanted to get access to your email, or some file, etc.? You could simply log into your free iCloud account through a browser.
Everyone doesn't always have access to their own devices 100% of the time. I've been in situations where I've needed to use my icloud account. The world doesn't revolve around YOU.
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Oh please, yes, get back to us on this one.
Really? I don't see it at beta.icloud.com Did you clear your browsers' cache?
You keep mentioning Logic. I love music, but do not create. Can't play an instrument. Still, after taking the FCPX Pro Lab I will sign up for Logic, just because I like your enthusiasm!
Cheers mate!
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Originally Posted by erann
I am trying iCloud at the moment at my summer house in the middle of nowhere over a lousy 3G network (download speed 1,5 M, upload 1,5 M) and Pages is incredibly fast! Can't wait to get back home to try it over proper internet connection.
I'm using 15" MacBook Pro (2,6 GHz Core i7, 16 GB RAM).
A lot of people are posting responses like this, all I can say is that what I described is exactly how it worked for me.
I do a lot of writing and I'm generally working with a document that's around 100,000+ words or about 400-500 pages. When I tested it I was at work on an iMac on gigabit ethernet at an organisation that forms part of the internet backbone so there shouldn't be any speed problem with my connection.
I am of course not in Southern California. I find it frustrating that so much of the time when someone like me posts a speed problem the internet becomes alive with "works like a rocket for me" comments all mostly coming from Americans, and primarily Americans living in Southern California. Speeds will no doubt vary around the world.
Scrolling issues like the one I described would seem to me to be far more concerned with the browser cacheing than internet speeds anyway. For any web based editing program to work well, it needs to be able to effectively cache documents of multiple gigabytes in size (at minimum) and sync the changes back and forth to the cloud.
If it really is reaching into the cloud for data when I scroll unexpectedly from page one to page 251, then that's just a bad design IMO. Perhaps they have optimised the performance for the typical two page, "I'm making a flyer for my lost cat!" document and not for people doing actual work. Again I think this is a horrible mistake if true and simply, bad design.
I won't go on further as it is a beta, but it has a lot of problems from my point of view and they have made some bad design choices IMO (like having documents open at a set default resolution instead of "fit to width" without letting the user set or alter that default resolution). The lack of support for plain old English as a language is also alarming. It needs to launch with multi-language support at minimum. I can't imagine they will really launch it without supporting the main English language and I will be shocked (and very complainy) if they do.
----
In regards iWork in general (not just the web version), I'm just disappointed in the disrespect Apple has shown for what are for me, a central and very important applications. The lack of any significant updates or effort on their part, and the lack of attention to detail is atrocious. The idea that they seem to actually think their work is "done" or "good enough" and are thinking of making the whole thing free as part of a loss leader package to sell hardware infuriates me. I've got a lot invested.
A lot of users like me *believed* Apple when they said they were serious about making the iWork apps serious competitors. I think they've let down all those people who actually took them at their word and moved all their creation away from Office to iWork. I think they owe the users of iWork apps, who have been suffering all this time, a far bigger apology than the one they gave to the few users who lost data on MobileMe.
If the team leader for iWork apps was in front of me at this moment I'd step on his/her foot and slap them in the face.
And I say that as a lifelong Apple supporter and someone who has never actually hit anyone in their life.
Just like giving iTunes and iPod access PC users was a lost cause.
totally different situation there. They created PC versions, not a website App. Point is moot. Had you quoted the first part of my post you'd see I address that situation in my response.
Made some quick tests... very promising!
I'd say the most promising thing to come from this is the fact that Apple is in fact addressing that the iWork suite needs to be addressed, with regards to market saturation and actually updating the apps.
iCloud.com is a PC version of iCloud.
Not acceptably.
iCloud.com is not a PC version of iCloud. I cannot access iTunes, the iTunes or App Store. I cannot access any of my email, messages, etc. that aren't just my iCloud emails ( which I never use). To me, this iCloud.com should just be a web iOS emulator, but it isn't. It's a pointless website that I've never had a need for. If I can get to the Internet I usually have a phone on me. So it's all pointless.
Wrong, try again.
iCloud.com is not a PC version of iCloud. I cannot access iTunes, the iTunes or App Store. I cannot access any of my email, messages, etc. that aren't just my iCloud emails ( which I never use). To me, this iCloud.com should just be a web iOS emulator, but it isn't. It's a pointless website that I've never had a need for. If I can get to the Internet I usually have a phone on me. So it's all pointless.
Sure, acceptably, is a word, it may not be in any dictionary and have any meaning that is part of the English language, but these days, it's just as much of a word as biotch or beotch or whatever the spelling is for the different pronunciation of the word bitch.
Wrong, try again.
iCloud.com is not a PC version of iCloud. I cannot access iTunes, the iTunes or App Store. I cannot access any of my email, messages, etc. that aren't just my iCloud emails ( which I never use). To me, this iCloud.com should just be a web iOS emulator, but it isn't. It's a pointless website that I've never had a need for. If I can get to the Internet I usually have a phone on me. So it's all pointless.
What would happen if your phone got stolen, or the battery died and you were at a friend's house that had a PC or a Mac that wasn't yours and you wanted to get access to your email, or some file, etc.? You could simply log into your free iCloud account through a browser.
Everyone doesn't always have access to their own devices 100% of the time. I've been in situations where I've needed to use my icloud account. The world doesn't revolve around YOU.
Yeah, except iTunes–with iCloud–already exists on Windows to fit those needs.
Yeah, you can't do that via iCloud otherwise ANYWAY.
To you.
Any more cherries you want to pick only to have me slap them out of your hands?