Apple's iPhone holds 40% share of US smartphone market

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  • Reply 21 of 34
    HTC seems like its more impressive than most think, being in third and fifth place at the same time!
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  • Reply 22 of 34
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    dasanman69 wrote: »

    Yes, that's what Google wants people to believe.

    But, in reality, the latest versions still constitute a minority and there are still phones being sold running Android 2.x.

    While you can run SOME apps on older versions of Android. there are not - and will never be - bug fixes or security fixes for the older versions and that's a serious problem that Google wants you to ignore.
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  • Reply 23 of 34
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    jragosta wrote: »
    Yes, that's what Google wants people to believe.

    But, in reality, the latest versions still constitute a minority and there are still phones being sold running Android 2.x.

    While you can run SOME apps on older versions of Android. there are not - and will never be - bug fixes or security fixes for the older versions and that's a serious problem that Google wants you to ignore.

    Agreed, but those are a whole other set of issues some of which Google has no control over. If manufacturers are putting Android 2.x.x then any issues with the device is one that they bought onto themselves.
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  • Reply 24 of 34
    joshajosha Posts: 901member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    No, it doesn't. It holds roughly 10%. The newspapers told me so, because Android is shipping more. The newspapers can't possibly be lying.


    Your inability to understand the newspapers simply illustrates why you don't mind using spyware android !

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  • Reply 25 of 34
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    Agreed, but those are a whole other set of issues some of which Google has no control over. If manufacturers are putting Android 2.x.x then any issues with the device is one that they bought onto themselves.

    No one cares who you want to blame.

    The fact is that the majority of Android phones will never have security upgrades available.
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  • Reply 26 of 34
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,731member
    jragosta wrote: »
    No one cares who you want to blame.

    The fact is that the majority of Android phones will never have security upgrades available.

    Not entirely accurate JR,

    It looks like Google is also decoupling some of the security enhancements from the OS too. A few months back Android 4.2 introduced a new service called Verify Apps, a client-side security feature that scans apps for malware as they're being installed, even side-loaded ones not coming directly from Google Play.

    It's now no longer a part of the OS and instead baked into Google Play Services. By doing that every official Android device running 2.3 or higher which covers 95% of active users, now has Verify Apps helping protect them from most of the identified malware that might be targeting Android devices thru installed apps. Google's not leaving it up to just the OEM's and carriers to get new security features out, a refreshing change.

    I think even Marvin will give Google props for thinking outside the box on this one.
    http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/22552/google-android-security
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  • Reply 27 of 34
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GadgetCanadaV2 View Post

     

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    Split Android into the following and it's not so impressive: Jelly Bean 33%, Ice Cream Sandwich 25.6% and Gingerbread is at 36.5%. Android 2.2 Froyo still has a sliver of the platform. iOS on the other hand has 93% of the users on iOS 6.


     

    Froyo

    Gingerbread

    H....

    Ice Cream Sandwich

    Jelly Bean

    KitKat

     

    Where's the H!?? Or what is it?

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  • Reply 28 of 34
    blueeddie wrote: »
    Froyo
    Gingerbread
    H....
    Ice Cream Sandwich
    Jelly Bean
    KitKat

    Where's the H!?? Or what is it?

    Honeycomb
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  • Reply 29 of 34

    oops. sorry im stupid.

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  • Reply 30 of 34
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    jragosta wrote: »
    No one cares who you want to blame.

    The fact is that the majority of Android phones will never have security upgrades available.

    The security updates are there. It's up to the manufacturers to update the phone. Anyone concerned with getting updates in a timely fashion has a Nexus device.

    http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-droid-x-receiving-security-update
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  • Reply 31 of 34
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,731member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    The security updates are there. It's up to the manufacturers to update the phone. Anyone concerned with getting updates in a timely fashion has a Nexus device.

    http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-droid-x-receiving-security-update

    Since it bears repeating Google has also taken things into their own hands and reportedly made 95% of all active Google Android devices more secure. Read up on Verify Apps, an Android 4.2 feature that's now been made a part of Google Play Services instead. The tiny chance that any Android device was going to be infected by a malicious likely took a nosedive, even those that throw caution to the wind and install any old app from anywhere as long as it's free.:\
    http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/22552/google-android-security
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  • Reply 32 of 34
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    Not entirely accurate JR,

    It looks like Google is also decoupling some of the security enhancements from the OS too. A few months back Android 4.2 introduced a new service called Verify Apps, a client-side security feature that scans apps for malware as they're being installed, even side-loaded ones not coming directly from Google Play.

    It's now no longer a part of the OS and instead baked into Google Play Services. By doing that every official Android device running 2.3 or higher which covers 95% of active users, now has Verify Apps helping protect them from most of the identified malware that might be targeting Android devices thru installed apps. Google's not leaving it up to just the OEM's and carriers to get new security features out, a refreshing change.

    I think even Marvin will give Google props for thinking outside the box on this one.
    http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/22552/google-android-security

    So your solution is that if you have an insecure OS, you add layers of applications on top of it? Sorry, but that doesn't fix security problems.

    Which is better an OS that is secure (and can easily be updated when new security patches are needed) or an OS that is insecure and has an app placed on top of it - and the OS can not be updated?

    Obviously, the former. Adding layers of apps to try to catch security problems is not a real solution. Not to mention what it does to system responsiveness, of course.

    dasanman69 wrote: »
    The security updates are there. It's up to the manufacturers to update the phone. Anyone concerned with getting updates in a timely fashion has a Nexus device.

    http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-droid-x-receiving-security-update

    Again, no one cares who you want to blame. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of Android users will never be able to get security updates for their phones.
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  • Reply 33 of 34
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    Since it bears repeating Google has also taken things into their own hands and reportedly made 95% of all active Google Android devices more secure. Read up on Verify Apps, an Android 4.2 feature that's now been made a part of Google Play Services instead. The tiny chance that any Android device was going to be infected by a malicious likely took a nosedive, even those that throw caution to the wind and install any old app from anywhere as long as it's free.:\
    http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/22552/google-android-security

    Silly.

    So Windows was more secure than Mac OS - because it had lots of antivirus software? Surely even you realize how ridiculous your argument is. Adding a layer of software on top of the system does NOT fix security problems.
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  • Reply 34 of 34
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,731member
    Jragosta, you claimed most Android users would never see security upgrades. 95% of them just have so you were wrong simply and plainly. Google Play Services is baked potato into Google Android just as Apple Maps are baked into iOS. It's not another software layer or some 3rd party antivirus being added as you should easily recognize. Google Play Services was already there.
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