Not to be outdone by Apple's iPhone 5s, Samsung pledges 64-bit chips in next Galaxy phones

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  • Reply 41 of 231

    Anything to distract from their great 'smartwatch.'

  • Reply 42 of 231

    Samsung's research and development department:

  • Reply 43 of 231
    And why is that surprising? After all Samsung has copied everything from Apple so the fact that they did not do it before Apple is not at all a surprise.
  • Reply 44 of 231

    A couple of things... 

     

    First, don't bash Samsung for making junk. Why? The A7 is made by Samung, at least in part if not entirely: http://************/2013/07/31/apples-upcoming-a7-iphone-chip-will-have-samsung-components-code-inside-ios-7-reveals/

     

    Second, 64 bit is part of a roadmap for the future, with almost no benefit today. This is true for both Samsung and Apple, but Samsung has reached the critical limit before Apple. That's because their current phones ship with 3GB RAM, almost the 4GB limit. iPhone 5s ships with only 2GB RAM (iPhone 5 has 1GB). Read this: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57602372-94/the-real-reasons-apples-64-bit-a7-chip-makes-sense/

     

    Third, benchmarks show that A7 is twice as fast as A6, which puts it around the same performance as today's Galaxy S4: http://www.primatelabs.com/blog/2013/03/samsung-galaxy-s-4-benchmarks/

  • Reply 45 of 231
    chiachia Posts: 714member

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  • Reply 46 of 231

    Major surprise - I was fully expecting Samsung to announce that they were going to have 65 bit processing.

  • Reply 47 of 231
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Howie View Post



    Competition is good. Heaven forfend the day we should see only one mobile device maker.

     

    Competition for competition's sake isn't necessarily good. 

  • Reply 48 of 231

    Actually to do 64 bit computing,there is no need  to have 4gb ram ,if you can control your operating system...

    Read pros and cons  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit

  • Reply 49 of 231
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    Originally Posted by Dave MacLachlan View Post



    Surprised they didn't announce a 65-bit processor... 'Cause that extra bit would make it THAT MUCH better than Apple's puny little girly-man of a 64-bit processor.

     

    Funny :D

  • Reply 50 of 231
    A 64-bit processor isn't a big deal unless the device has > 4GB of RAM. The fact that either company is using it for marketing purposes at this point is ridiculous. Will it make Apple's life easier to have iOS and OSX both as 64-bit? Sure. But just because 64 > 32 doesn't mean this was a revolutionary move on Apple's part. One day, phones may get more RAM and this move will pay off for consumers. Not right now. Even then, it's highly unlikely that a mobile OS in the next 10 years will allow a single application to address anywhere near 4GB of memory.

    Keep in mind that since most Android apps are built entirely in Java, which runs on top of the Java Virtual Machine, all of these Android apps will run in 64-bit mode once the JVM is ported to run in 64-bit mode. They don't need to be rebuilt/resubmitted to the Play store. With Apple, most apps are compiled to native binaries (no VM layer). While this has performance benefits, it's going to be a pain in the ass for developers to migrate from 32 to 64-bit--significantly harder than it will be for Android developers. This is a step that Apple needed to take first. Remember their growing pains around the switch of OSX to 64-bit? Universal binaries vs. 32-bit binaries? Same problem they're trying to solve here.
  • Reply 51 of 231
    tbelltbell Posts: 3,146member
    This will be tougher for Samsung because the OS has to fully support 64 bit and the Os will have to allow backwards compatibility for 32 bit apps.
  • Reply 52 of 231
    Originally Posted by mr O View Post

    I hope Apple is NOT getting into the "my-screen-is-bigger-than-yours" race.


     

    Thanks for the false concern, based on nothing whatsoever relevant to the article.

  • Reply 53 of 231
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    Originally Posted by jusephe View Post



    So we will have lots of smartphones with 64 bit rushing out next year. By that time Apple will have 90% of its users on 64 bit OS (iOS 7)

    And I think over 50% percent of Apps remaked for 64 bit, that will run so fast on the 5S they will literally flew out the screen.I like taking pot shots at Samsung as much as anyone else here, but let's not fabricate stuff about Apple either.

     

    I like taking pot shots at Samsung as much as anyone else but let's not fabricate stuff.

    The iPhone 5/5C/4S users will all still be running the 32 bit version of iOS7 and apps.

    It will take a few years before more than 90% of users will be full 64 bit. Granted, the transition will be much quicker for the iOS user base than it will, for the Android user base but 1 year is definitely not enough time, even for Apple.

  • Reply 54 of 231

      There has to be some importance in the fact that they specified "Desktop Class" 64 bit, Right?   (Sure Steve J. would have explained that a bit more.

     

      Also, did the guy running the game at presentation say that it only took him 2 hours to port it to 64 bit himself?    So does that mean that all other apps will be a piece of cake to upgrade?

  • Reply 55 of 231
    gazoobeegazoobee Posts: 3,754member

    The three main things I keep thinking about a 64bit iPhone are:

     

    1) Unless you play games, you don't need this "power" at all. 

     

    therefore

     

    2) It's main, and almost only real use will be in iPads 

     

    therefore

     

    3) If the next iPads don't have an A7 in them, they kind of have a "negative" before they are even for sale. 

     

    Maybe that vague rumour about a second iPad mini update in mid 2014 is because the one they are going to sell next month is only 32 bit and will be obsolete after six months?  

  • Reply 56 of 231
    I really hate Samsung.
  • Reply 57 of 231
    Why wouldn't the next gen of iPads have the 64 bit chip?
  • Reply 58 of 231

    I wonder how good is Samsung copy machine is, wonder if can resolve down to the level of Apple 64bit architecture. They maybe able to copy the hardware, but the photocopier may not work on the software as well.

     

    Base on the fact Samsung obviously had no clue this was coming otherwise they would have preempted it last week, it sound like Samsung did not make the A7 chip, this must have gone to TSMC. 

  • Reply 59 of 231
    tbelltbell Posts: 3,146member
    howie wrote: »
    Competition is good. Heaven forfend the day we should see only one mobile device maker.

    Competition based on innovation is good. Competition based on tearing apart your competitor's product to try and emulate it is not. Bringing to market an innovative idea is more expensive than using a competitors finished product to bypass your own R& D. Allowing blind copying to compete in the market place ultimately kills innovation because the innovator can't compete with the copier on price. Dyson is the latest company to sue Samsung over competing by merely copying Dyson's products to bypass its own R & D.
  • Reply 60 of 231
    Originally Posted by Howie View Post

    Competition is good. Heaven forfend the day we should see only one mobile device maker.

     

    Great. When one of the companies that isn't Apple decides to actually start competing with them instead of just stealing their ideas wholesale, you be sure to let us know. 

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