Office 365 is available on Android, iOS and I'd presume Windows phone.
Desperation.
Office365 is not Microsoft Office as most people understand it; you need to install Desktop Office first and it's a subscription service and after 2 months you would have spent enough to buy Pages for iOS. Then of course you would also need an online connection to get all you've paid for.
Here's part of a review from PCMag on Home Office365:
Quote:
Until Microsoft completely redesigns all of Office's dialog boxes, this problem will hinder Office on tablets. Apple got this right when it gave its office apps—Pages, Numbers, and Keynote—a completely different interface on touch screen devices and on full-scale computers, with all controls easy for even the clumsiest fingers to manage. Maybe Microsoft will get Office's touch screen interface right in the next version.
Maybe. So far it doesn't look good though given Microsoft's embarrassing attempt with Surface.
Then, from MacWorld's review Office Mobile for Office 365:
Quote:
As a word processing tool, Word in Office Mobile is, at best, an uneven experience and at worst, an exercise in frustration. Word does not behave like any iOS app you’ve ever used to edit text.
Standards? What are they?
Macworld again looking at what you can expect when creating a presentation:
Quote:
PowerPoint offers the least features of all three apps. PowerPoint is essentially a viewing tool with some minor editing capabilities. You can make changes to text, but really nothing else.
Ho hum.
Whereas PCMag had this to say about Keynote for iOS:
Quote:
Like the other members of the iWork for iPhone suite, Keynote not only impresses with its elegant interface, but it is also surprisingly capable at creating compelling presentations, which you can save as PowerPoint, PDF, or Keynote desktop files. The app even offers animations and presenter's notes, both beloved of today's lecturers.
And Pages, Numbers and Keynote are now to be free on all new devices running iOS7. Smart move.
Perhaps when your Internet access is restored you can Google it.
Nice (and confusing, why are you commenting on my internet access?). It's a reasonable question. I can't find any current smartphones that are reasonably comparable to the iPhone 5 (i.e. excepting ones with jewel encrusted buttons and solid gold chassis) that are more expensive.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven N.
Not even close.
Plenty close. Same order of magnitude. They (Galaxy S4 and iPhone 5) both sold in the tens of millions, and tens of millions is not "small quantities".
Office365 is not Microsoft Office as most people understand it; you need to install Desktop Office first and it's a subscription service and after 2 months you would have spent enough to buy Pages for iOS. Then of course you would also need an online connection to get all you've paid for.
Here's part of a review from PCMag on Home Office365:
Maybe. So far it doesn't look good though given Microsoft's embarrassing attempt with Surface.
Then, from MacWorld's review Office Mobile for Office 365:
Standards? What are they?
Macworld again looking at what you can expect when creating a presentation:
Ho hum.
Whereas PCMag had this to say about Keynote for iOS:
And Pages, Numbers and Keynote are now to be free on all new devices running iOS7. Smart move.
I'll take your word on it as I don't use Office 365 or iWork. Office 365 is the new Office though. I make no claim of it being good or bad on any platforms as I don't like the subscription model for software. I prefer to own the software I spend money on, not rent it.
This writer's dead end assumptions for the Exynos Octacore couldn't be more wrong. It's been quite apparent for some time that Samsung was spending another $4 Billion Dollars in Austin Texas for expansion. Which again makes them the largest corporate investor in Apple's own backyard!
What do you think all that expansion money was spent on? Just to turn off and sit idol? lol... and here's the truth on Octacore for you. Samsung has been a part of HSA for some time. If you all are too busy dissing on one of Apple's most vital parts suppliers to notice, HSA stands for Heterogeneous System Architecture. AMD if you remember is promising HSA on their 64bit chips by year's end. http://hothardware.com/News/Samsung-Joins-The-HSA-Foundation-Your-Next-Galaxy-with-AMD-Inside/
An even bigger partnership with common platform alliance and mobile chip makers than Apple's Samsung partnership is in the works. That includes ARM, Imagination, AMD, Mediatek, Texas Instruments, etc right now. Samsung joined the HSA last year and they have already been sampling A50 64bit series chips for over 9 months as one of ARM's first licensees, if not the first. They are also swiftly moving into new foundry lines in their Austin Fab. Projected for their latest move into Gate Last 20nm/22nm SoC fabrication! .....is this somehow tied to Apple being their first customer? Only time will tell, but all you haters need to get a grip and hope Samsung as big and strong as they are, still have production space available to furnish Apple's needs, on their way to expansion of chip foundries everywhere in the world!
If Apple and Samsung aren't partners now, after renewing their chip contract, we're in for a real knock down drag out hockey fight. Because they've just knocked Global Foundries out of 3rd place and are now knocking on TSMC's back door and taking some prime customers with them already. Including Nvidia their homey! .....not to mention Broadcomm and Qualcomm chip fabrication. Sorry but I don't believe the TSMC contract panned out. Because they couldn't possibly move to expand as fast as SAMSUNG with it's total surplus of fat pockets compared to them. That's my say... and I'm sticking to the fact that Samsung will still be one of the best quality parts suppliers Apple has. If using Samsung's latest greatest and fastest memory in new Macbooks is an example. We all know Samsung has the bargaining end of the big stick!
This writer's dead end assumptions for the Exynos Octacore couldn't be more wrong. It's been quite apparent for some time that Samsung was spending another $4 Billion Dollars in Austin Texas for expansion. Which again makes them the largest corporate investor in Apple's own backyard!
What do you think all that expansion money was spent on? Just to turn off and sit idol? lol... and here's the truth on Octacore for you. Samsung has been a part of HSA for some time. If you all are too busy dissing on one of Apple's most vital parts suppliers to notice, HSA stands for Heterogeneous System Architecture. AMD if you remember is promising HSA on their 64bit chips by year's end.
An even bigger partnership with common platform alliance and mobile chip makers than Apple's Samsung partnership is in the works. That includes ARM, Imagination, AMD, Mediatek, Texas Instruments, etc right now. Samsung joined the HSA last year and they have already been sampling A50 64bit series chips for over 9 months as one of ARM's first licensees, if not the first. They are also swiftly moving into new foundry lines in their Austin Fab. Projected for their latest move into Gate Last 20nm/22nm SoC fabrication! .....is this somehow tied to Apple being their first customer? Only time will tell, but all you haters need to get a grip and hope Samsung as big and strong as they are, still have production space available to furnish Apple's needs, on their way to expansion of chip foundries everywhere in the world!
If Apple and Samsung aren't partners now, after renewing their chip contract, we're in for a real knock down drag out hockey fight. Because they've just knocked Global Foundries out of 3rd place and are now knocking on TSMC's back door and taking some prime customers with them already. Including Nvidia their homey! .....not to mention Broadcomm and Qualcomm chip fabrication. Sorry but I don't believe the TSMC contract panned out. Because they couldn't possibly move to expand as fast as SAMSUNG with it's total surplus of fat pockets compared to them. That's my say... and I'm sticking to the fact that Samsung will still be one of the best quality parts suppliers Apple has. If using Samsung's latest greatest and fastest memory in new Macbooks is an example. We all know Samsung has the bargaining end of the big stick!
Exynos 5 Octa disastrous? lol... now that's really funny. Since they've just finished expanding production in the hopes of keeping up with sales this year alone. Plus they were the FIRST to sign up for ARM A50 64bit chips last year on top of signing licensing deals with them being the first to incorporate ARM's own big LITTLE chip technology. Even Nvidia has their own form of big/LITTLE chip design. Better look up HSA members, so you don't get caught blowing chunks and hating for hate sake only.
Here's a reminder on just who is projected to sell more smartphones this year, while also cornering the market on feature phones too. Except this year Samsung's smartphone sales will be taking a back seat to Samsung smartphones along with Apple. Samsung is on target to sell well over 300 million smartphones by year's end and that to Apple's just half of that at 150 Million even with the new cheap model launch. Want that fact driven home a little deeper? Samsung will sell more than half of all SMARTPHONES SOLD ON THE PLANET THIS YEAR! ....and Apple will sell only a quarter of that total with various other Android device makers selling the other 25% leaving Apple's iOS vs Android at a 4 to 1 disadvantage this year!
Instead of FUD'ing up the Truth, you should take some time to find out what's really going on between these two partners instead of making up facts to suit your lame story!
Samsung has two plans of action, they put into play last year, that together cry bullpucky on all your Anti-Samsung vitriol spewing nonsense. One... they are a member of HSA (heterogeneous System Architecture) Foundation that will enable the use of all 8 cores simultaneously for calculations on whichever core is free and whichever OS is best for the job.
They also have at least one more product to launch this year that could have an their A50 64bit series chip, running along with A7's for the really big Exynos arse kicker. Running wouldn't you know it, both 64bit Tizen along side Android in ARM's hardware virtualization enabled on that 64bit chip! :DDD .....realizing that two heads are better than ONE!!!
We all know Samsung has the bargaining end of the big stick!
We being “myself and the rest of my fellow Samsung employees, having been told this by our Glorious Leaders”?
Originally Posted by Applewellian
Here's a reminder on just who is projected to sell more smartphones this year
A company with 200 models, 80% of which are cheap pieces of trash (the other 20% being expensive pieces of trash) sold to third world countries… is going to sell more phones than a company with three models?
Tell us more amazing things, Mr. Shill!
Samsung is on target to sell well over 300 million smartphones by year's end and that to Apple's just half of that at 150 Million even with the new cheap model launch.
Again, three models versus 200. And Apple still sells HALF of what Samsung does? Sounds like you guys are just plain pathetic, huh?
Samsung will sell more than half of all SMARTPHONES SOLD ON THE PLANET THIS YEAR!
The only fact you’re driving home is that Samsung products are throwaway devices, designed to break in a year and be meaningless to replace.
Samsung has two plans of action, they put into play last year…
Plan 1: Steal everything that Apple does.
Plan 2: Ask for money from the South Korean government so we don’t go bankrupt otherwise.
One… they are a member of HSA (heterogeneous System Architecture) Foundation…
Apple’s a member of the Blu-ray board. Membership ? anything whatsoever to do with implementing whatever is claimed.
And what does being able to use all the cores (that are, by your admission, apparently worthless and wasted right now) when the software isn’t made by you and doesn’t do the same?
They also have at least one more product to launch this year that could have an their A50 64bit series chip, running along with A7's for the really big Exynos arse kicker.
How pathetic. It’ll be fun to be reminded of phones with three hours of battery life again, though.
:DDD
Get out for this alone.
...realizing that two heads are better than ONE!!!
Two wrongs don’t make a right. Or maybe South Korea doesn’t have that idiom.
Exynos 5 Octa disastrous? lol... now that's really funny. Since they've just finished expanding production in the hopes of keeping up with sales this year alone. Plus they were the FIRST to sign up for ARM A50 64bit chips last year on top of signing licensing deals with them being the first to incorporate ARM's own big LITTLE chip technology. Even Nvidia has their own form of big/LITTLE chip design. Better look up HSA members, so you don't get caught blowing chunks and hating for hate sake only.
Here's a reminder on just who is projected to sell more smartphones this year, while also cornering the market on feature phones too. Except this year Samsung's smartphone sales will be taking a back seat to Samsung smartphones along with Apple. Samsung is on target to sell well over 300 million smartphones by year's end and that to Apple's just half of that at 150 Million even with the new cheap model launch. Want that fact driven home a little deeper? Samsung will sell more than half of all SMARTPHONES SOLD ON THE PLANET THIS YEAR! ....and Apple will sell only a quarter of that total with various other Android device makers selling the other 25% leaving Apple's iOS vs Android at a 4 to 1 disadvantage this year!
Instead of FUD'ing up the Truth, you should take some time to find out what's really going on between these two partners instead of making up facts to suit your lame story!
Samsung has two plans of action, they put into play last year, that together cry bullpucky on all your Anti-Samsung vitriol spewing nonsense. One... they are a member of HSA (heterogeneous System Architecture) Foundation that will enable the use of all 8 cores simultaneously for calculations on whichever core is free and whichever OS is best for the job.
They also have at least one more product to launch this year that could have an their A50 64bit series chip, running along with A7's for the really big Exynos arse kicker. Running wouldn't you know it, both 64bit Tizen along side Android in ARM's hardware virtualization enabled on that 64bit chip! :DDD .....realizing that two heads are better than ONE!!!
This writer's dead end assumptions for the Exynos Octacore couldn't be more wrong. It's been quite apparent for some time that Samsung was spending another $4 Billion Dollars in Austin Texas for expansion. Which again makes them the largest corporate investor in Apple's own backyard!
What do you think all that expansion money was spent on? Just to turn off and sit idol? lol... and here's the truth on Octacore for you. Samsung has been a part of HSA for some time. If you all are too busy dissing on one of Apple's most vital parts suppliers to notice, HSA stands for Heterogeneous System Architecture. AMD if you remember is promising HSA on their 64bit chips by year's end. http://hothardware.com/News/Samsung-Joins-The-HSA-Foundation-Your-Next-Galaxy-with-AMD-Inside/
An even bigger partnership with common platform alliance and mobile chip makers than Apple's Samsung partnership is in the works. That includes ARM, Imagination, AMD, Mediatek, Texas Instruments, etc right now. Samsung joined the HSA last year and they have already been sampling A50 64bit series chips for over 9 months as one of ARM's first licensees, if not the first. They are also swiftly moving into new foundry lines in their Austin Fab. Projected for their latest move into Gate Last 20nm/22nm SoC fabrication! .....is this somehow tied to Apple being their first customer? Only time will tell, but all you haters need to get a grip and hope Samsung as big and strong as they are, still have production space available to furnish Apple's needs, on their way to expansion of chip foundries everywhere in the world!
If Apple and Samsung aren't partners now, after renewing their chip contract, we're in for a real knock down drag out hockey fight. Because they've just knocked Global Foundries out of 3rd place and are now knocking on TSMC's back door and taking some prime customers with them already. Including Nvidia their homey! .....not to mention Broadcomm and Qualcomm chip fabrication. Sorry but I don't believe the TSMC contract panned out. Because they couldn't possibly move to expand as fast as SAMSUNG with it's total surplus of fat pockets compared to them. That's my say... and I'm sticking to the fact that Samsung will still be one of the best quality parts suppliers Apple has. If using Samsung's latest greatest and fastest memory in new Macbooks is an example. We all know Samsung has the bargaining end of the big stick!
You do know that Apple founded ARM, in partnership with Acorn, don't you?
It's right there on ARM's website, along with their first licensee which most definitely was not Samsung.
Those saying a move to a 64-bit processor is useless are being short sighted, though yes the immediate benefits aren't great. Apple should be commended for being the first in market.
Those saying Samsung, Qualcomm or other ARM users are only moving to 64-bit processors b/c of Apple's announcement are equally as foolish. Their designs using ARMv8 have likely been in progress for at least a year and the design, tooling, testing, and manufacturing of a new processor is years in the making. You cannot "decide" to launch a 64-bit processor in a year.
What is impressive is that Apple was able to be the first to market by a considerable margin. However, I'd expect that by next year, it'll be pretty commonplace.
The A7 is certainly an impressive chip, but the Qualcomm S800 has also been eye-raising this fall with amazing performance and power sipping. These two are clearly the chips to have at the moment. I wonder what Qualcomm will announce this coming January as that's when they announced the S600 and S800 - they clearly are hitting their stride as well
While I agree that there are reasons to move to 64 bit and most people were 'moving' there, the problem is getting 5 different groups to align on them
1) Google/Android: They need to step up and build out 64 bit reference platform
2) 53a/57a or combo by the Chip makers
3) HW vendors need to decide on a chip
4) carriers have to decide to buy it.
5) developers have to want to port to it.
Apple controls 1-3, and IF Apple makes an iPhone, Carriers WILL buy it, and Apple typically makes it easy for developers to have a low threshold to cross to achieve the incentives of a huge market.
In short, Apple can make a decision like this in LESS than a year, and make it with synergy among all the parts, not just slapping a 64bit chip in the build, a label on the box ("64Bit Inside!!") and running the OS and/or all/most of the apps in 32 bit mode.
The most immediate benefit for Apple is that it extends a lead for several months, as well as getting huge profiling information for tuning real world apps against their 64 bit offering, and prepping them for the 'big memory' ARM systems [laptops]. At the $200 profit per handset unit level, that lead is golden.
There's always great technology out there… the problem is integrating it into a solution, and knowing when to do so.
While I agree that there are reasons to move to 64 bit and most people were 'moving' there, the problem is getting 5 different groups to align on them
1) Google/Android: They need to step up and build out 64 bit reference platform
2) 53a/57a or combo by the Chip makers
3) HW vendors need to decide on a chip
4) carriers have to decide to buy it.
5) developers have to want to port to it.
Apple controls 1-3, and IF Apple makes an iPhone, Carriers WILL buy it, and Apple typically makes it easy for developers to have a low threshold to cross to achieve the incentives of a huge market.
In short, Apple can make a decision like this in LESS than a year, and make it with synergy among all the parts, not just slapping a 64bit chip in the build, a label on the box ("64Bit Inside!!") and running the OS and/or all/most of the apps in 32 bit mode.
The most immediate benefit for Apple is that it extends a lead for several months, as well as getting huge profiling information for tuning real world apps against their 64 bit offering, and prepping them for the 'big memory' ARM systems [laptops]. At the $200 profit per handset unit level, that lead is golden.
There's always great technology out there… the problem is integrating it into a solution, and knowing when to do so.
Meanwhile I have a 64bit phone in my hand right now.
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When MS Office is available on Android or a Windows phone then I suppose there may be some competition!
Office 365 is available on Android, iOS and I'd presume Windows phone.
Office 365 is available on Android, iOS and I'd presume Windows phone.
Desperation.
Office365 is not Microsoft Office as most people understand it; you need to install Desktop Office first and it's a subscription service and after 2 months you would have spent enough to buy Pages for iOS. Then of course you would also need an online connection to get all you've paid for.
Here's part of a review from PCMag on Home Office365:
Standards? What are they?
Macworld again looking at what you can expect when creating a presentation:
Ho hum.
The beauty here, is that for Apple, if income on the older 32 bit app platform is negligible then they can force move all new apps to 64 bit.
Perhaps when your Internet access is restored you can Google it.
Nice (and confusing, why are you commenting on my internet access?). It's a reasonable question. I can't find any current smartphones that are reasonably comparable to the iPhone 5 (i.e. excepting ones with jewel encrusted buttons and solid gold chassis) that are more expensive.
Not even close.
Plenty close. Same order of magnitude. They (Galaxy S4 and iPhone 5) both sold in the tens of millions, and tens of millions is not "small quantities".
Desperation.
Office365 is not Microsoft Office as most people understand it; you need to install Desktop Office first and it's a subscription service and after 2 months you would have spent enough to buy Pages for iOS. Then of course you would also need an online connection to get all you've paid for.
Here's part of a review from PCMag on Home Office365:
Standards? What are they?
Macworld again looking at what you can expect when creating a presentation:
Ho hum.
I'll take your word on it as I don't use Office 365 or iWork. Office 365 is the new Office though. I make no claim of it being good or bad on any platforms as I don't like the subscription model for software. I prefer to own the software I spend money on, not rent it.
What do you think all that expansion money was spent on? Just to turn off and sit idol? lol... and here's the truth on Octacore for you. Samsung has been a part of HSA for some time. If you all are too busy dissing on one of Apple's most vital parts suppliers to notice, HSA stands for Heterogeneous System Architecture. AMD if you remember is promising HSA on their 64bit chips by year's end.
http://hothardware.com/News/Samsung-Joins-The-HSA-Foundation-Your-Next-Galaxy-with-AMD-Inside/
An even bigger partnership with common platform alliance and mobile chip makers than Apple's Samsung partnership is in the works. That includes ARM, Imagination, AMD, Mediatek, Texas Instruments, etc right now. Samsung joined the HSA last year and they have already been sampling A50 64bit series chips for over 9 months as one of ARM's first licensees, if not the first. They are also swiftly moving into new foundry lines in their Austin Fab. Projected for their latest move into Gate Last 20nm/22nm SoC fabrication! .....is this somehow tied to Apple being their first customer? Only time will tell, but all you haters need to get a grip and hope Samsung as big and strong as they are, still have production space available to furnish Apple's needs, on their way to expansion of chip foundries everywhere in the world!
If Apple and Samsung aren't partners now, after renewing their chip contract, we're in for a real knock down drag out hockey fight. Because they've just knocked Global Foundries out of 3rd place and are now knocking on TSMC's back door and taking some prime customers with them already. Including Nvidia their homey! .....not to mention Broadcomm and Qualcomm chip fabrication. Sorry but I don't believe the TSMC contract panned out. Because they couldn't possibly move to expand as fast as SAMSUNG with it's total surplus of fat pockets compared to them. That's my say... and I'm sticking to the fact that Samsung will still be one of the best quality parts suppliers Apple has. If using Samsung's latest greatest and fastest memory in new Macbooks is an example. We all know Samsung has the bargaining end of the big stick!
This writer's dead end assumptions for the Exynos Octacore couldn't be more wrong. It's been quite apparent for some time that Samsung was spending another $4 Billion Dollars in Austin Texas for expansion. Which again makes them the largest corporate investor in Apple's own backyard!
What do you think all that expansion money was spent on? Just to turn off and sit idol? lol... and here's the truth on Octacore for you. Samsung has been a part of HSA for some time. If you all are too busy dissing on one of Apple's most vital parts suppliers to notice, HSA stands for Heterogeneous System Architecture. AMD if you remember is promising HSA on their 64bit chips by year's end.
http://hothardware.com/News/Samsung-Joins-The-HSA-Foundation-Your-Next-Galaxy-with-AMD-Inside/
An even bigger partnership with common platform alliance and mobile chip makers than Apple's Samsung partnership is in the works. That includes ARM, Imagination, AMD, Mediatek, Texas Instruments, etc right now. Samsung joined the HSA last year and they have already been sampling A50 64bit series chips for over 9 months as one of ARM's first licensees, if not the first. They are also swiftly moving into new foundry lines in their Austin Fab. Projected for their latest move into Gate Last 20nm/22nm SoC fabrication! .....is this somehow tied to Apple being their first customer? Only time will tell, but all you haters need to get a grip and hope Samsung as big and strong as they are, still have production space available to furnish Apple's needs, on their way to expansion of chip foundries everywhere in the world!
If Apple and Samsung aren't partners now, after renewing their chip contract, we're in for a real knock down drag out hockey fight. Because they've just knocked Global Foundries out of 3rd place and are now knocking on TSMC's back door and taking some prime customers with them already. Including Nvidia their homey! .....not to mention Broadcomm and Qualcomm chip fabrication. Sorry but I don't believe the TSMC contract panned out. Because they couldn't possibly move to expand as fast as SAMSUNG with it's total surplus of fat pockets compared to them. That's my say... and I'm sticking to the fact that Samsung will still be one of the best quality parts suppliers Apple has. If using Samsung's latest greatest and fastest memory in new Macbooks is an example. We all know Samsung has the bargaining end of the big stick!
how much are they paying you… Wow...
Here's a reminder on just who is projected to sell more smartphones this year, while also cornering the market on feature phones too. Except this year Samsung's smartphone sales will be taking a back seat to Samsung smartphones along with Apple. Samsung is on target to sell well over 300 million smartphones by year's end and that to Apple's just half of that at 150 Million even with the new cheap model launch. Want that fact driven home a little deeper? Samsung will sell more than half of all SMARTPHONES SOLD ON THE PLANET THIS YEAR! ....and Apple will sell only a quarter of that total with various other Android device makers selling the other 25% leaving Apple's iOS vs Android at a 4 to 1 disadvantage this year!
Instead of FUD'ing up the Truth, you should take some time to find out what's really going on between these two partners instead of making up facts to suit your lame story!
Samsung has two plans of action, they put into play last year, that together cry bullpucky on all your Anti-Samsung vitriol spewing nonsense. One... they are a member of HSA (heterogeneous System Architecture) Foundation that will enable the use of all 8 cores simultaneously for calculations on whichever core is free and whichever OS is best for the job.
They also have at least one more product to launch this year that could have an their A50 64bit series chip, running along with A7's for the really big Exynos arse kicker. Running wouldn't you know it, both 64bit Tizen along side Android in ARM's hardware virtualization enabled on that 64bit chip! :DDD .....realizing that two heads are better than ONE!!!
Will that baby come with a 22:2 soundsystem?
We being “myself and the rest of my fellow Samsung employees, having been told this by our Glorious Leaders”?
A company with 200 models, 80% of which are cheap pieces of trash (the other 20% being expensive pieces of trash) sold to third world countries… is going to sell more phones than a company with three models?
Tell us more amazing things, Mr. Shill!
Again, three models versus 200. And Apple still sells HALF of what Samsung does? Sounds like you guys are just plain pathetic, huh?
The only fact you’re driving home is that Samsung products are throwaway devices, designed to break in a year and be meaningless to replace.
Plan 1: Steal everything that Apple does.
Plan 2: Ask for money from the South Korean government so we don’t go bankrupt otherwise.
Apple’s a member of the Blu-ray board. Membership ? anything whatsoever to do with implementing whatever is claimed.
And what does being able to use all the cores (that are, by your admission, apparently worthless and wasted right now) when the software isn’t made by you and doesn’t do the same?
How pathetic. It’ll be fun to be reminded of phones with three hours of battery life again, though.
Get out for this alone.
Two wrongs don’t make a right. Or maybe South Korea doesn’t have that idiom.
Apple will sell "only" a quarter of all smartphones next year?
Wow, truly doomed.
I bet they earn "only" three quarters of all the profit as well.
Exynos 5 Octa disastrous? lol... now that's really funny. Since they've just finished expanding production in the hopes of keeping up with sales this year alone. Plus they were the FIRST to sign up for ARM A50 64bit chips last year on top of signing licensing deals with them being the first to incorporate ARM's own big LITTLE chip technology. Even Nvidia has their own form of big/LITTLE chip design. Better look up HSA members, so you don't get caught blowing chunks and hating for hate sake only.
Here's a reminder on just who is projected to sell more smartphones this year, while also cornering the market on feature phones too. Except this year Samsung's smartphone sales will be taking a back seat to Samsung smartphones along with Apple. Samsung is on target to sell well over 300 million smartphones by year's end and that to Apple's just half of that at 150 Million even with the new cheap model launch. Want that fact driven home a little deeper? Samsung will sell more than half of all SMARTPHONES SOLD ON THE PLANET THIS YEAR! ....and Apple will sell only a quarter of that total with various other Android device makers selling the other 25% leaving Apple's iOS vs Android at a 4 to 1 disadvantage this year!
Instead of FUD'ing up the Truth, you should take some time to find out what's really going on between these two partners instead of making up facts to suit your lame story!
Samsung has two plans of action, they put into play last year, that together cry bullpucky on all your Anti-Samsung vitriol spewing nonsense. One... they are a member of HSA (heterogeneous System Architecture) Foundation that will enable the use of all 8 cores simultaneously for calculations on whichever core is free and whichever OS is best for the job.
They also have at least one more product to launch this year that could have an their A50 64bit series chip, running along with A7's for the really big Exynos arse kicker. Running wouldn't you know it, both 64bit Tizen along side Android in ARM's hardware virtualization enabled on that 64bit chip! :DDD .....realizing that two heads are better than ONE!!!
Yes, supreme leader lives, doesn't heSeems like the latest consensus is that A7 is actually manufactured by Samsung.
Manufactured ? made, of course.
Manufactured ? made, of course.
made ? designed by, of course
Manufactured ? made, of course.
Yes...Manufactured = Made. At least within the context of "Samsung may have lost Apple's A7 contract to TSMC".
I'll take Anand conjecture over DED "facts" any day of the week.
You do know that Apple founded ARM, in partnership with Acorn, don't you?
It's right there on ARM's website, along with their first licensee which most definitely was not Samsung.
Those saying a move to a 64-bit processor is useless are being short sighted, though yes the immediate benefits aren't great. Apple should be commended for being the first in market.
Those saying Samsung, Qualcomm or other ARM users are only moving to 64-bit processors b/c of Apple's announcement are equally as foolish. Their designs using ARMv8 have likely been in progress for at least a year and the design, tooling, testing, and manufacturing of a new processor is years in the making. You cannot "decide" to launch a 64-bit processor in a year.
What is impressive is that Apple was able to be the first to market by a considerable margin. However, I'd expect that by next year, it'll be pretty commonplace.
The A7 is certainly an impressive chip, but the Qualcomm S800 has also been eye-raising this fall with amazing performance and power sipping. These two are clearly the chips to have at the moment. I wonder what Qualcomm will announce this coming January as that's when they announced the S600 and S800 - they clearly are hitting their stride as well
While I agree that there are reasons to move to 64 bit and most people were 'moving' there, the problem is getting 5 different groups to align on them
Apple controls 1-3, and IF Apple makes an iPhone, Carriers WILL buy it, and Apple typically makes it easy for developers to have a low threshold to cross to achieve the incentives of a huge market.
In short, Apple can make a decision like this in LESS than a year, and make it with synergy among all the parts, not just slapping a 64bit chip in the build, a label on the box ("64Bit Inside!!") and running the OS and/or all/most of the apps in 32 bit mode.
The most immediate benefit for Apple is that it extends a lead for several months, as well as getting huge profiling information for tuning real world apps against their 64 bit offering, and prepping them for the 'big memory' ARM systems [laptops]. At the $200 profit per handset unit level, that lead is golden.
There's always great technology out there… the problem is integrating it into a solution, and knowing when to do so.
They do however, own a 10% stake in Imagination Technologies.
While I agree that there are reasons to move to 64 bit and most people were 'moving' there, the problem is getting 5 different groups to align on them
Apple controls 1-3, and IF Apple makes an iPhone, Carriers WILL buy it, and Apple typically makes it easy for developers to have a low threshold to cross to achieve the incentives of a huge market.
In short, Apple can make a decision like this in LESS than a year, and make it with synergy among all the parts, not just slapping a 64bit chip in the build, a label on the box ("64Bit Inside!!") and running the OS and/or all/most of the apps in 32 bit mode.
The most immediate benefit for Apple is that it extends a lead for several months, as well as getting huge profiling information for tuning real world apps against their 64 bit offering, and prepping them for the 'big memory' ARM systems [laptops]. At the $200 profit per handset unit level, that lead is golden.
There's always great technology out there… the problem is integrating it into a solution, and knowing when to do so.
Meanwhile I have a 64bit phone in my hand right now.