So far, there are a lot of indications to the opposite, but no final proof. Anyhow, I do not think it is too relevant either way. The article contained a lot of truth and interesting facts, no matter if that conclusion was correct or not. Even people with a lot of insight into the business had endless discussions about the amount of transistors on this die size, all coming to different conclusions. Some claiming it must be Intel, some claiming it must be TSMC, some claiming it must be Samsung, some claiming you can't get to this transistor count at this size and 28 nm, others saying you can (as it seems GPU transistors, which make up a huge part of a SoC, can be much denser than CPU ones)... I have barely ever read so many mutually exclusive and 100% contrarian opinions on any topic outside religion and politics lately.
At some point Samsung will lose Apple as a customer, everybody knowing Apple knows that. If this is today or tomorrow... what the?
We know it isn't Samesung; they were a deer in the headlights on announcement day. I think Apple will keep them around, making chips that were already announced and have been on the market. Save the capacity of the others for the new stuff. It's a fitting task for a company who has a habit of stealing. "Here. Make our old parts, since you are not to be trusted." It's kinda a slap in the face, and they could use it.
We know it isn't Samesung; they were a deer in the headlights on announcement day. I think Apple will keep them around, making chips that were already announced and have been on the market. Save the capacity of the others for the new stuff. It's a fitting task for a company who has a habit of stealing. "Here. Make our old parts, since you are not to be trusted." It's kinda a slap in the face, and they could use it.
Actually you don't know whether Samsung is building the A7. With no official news to back yes or no for certain the pretty-well-connected Anandtech feels comfortable in saying it's still being supplied by Samsung. http://anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/2
EDIT: Is that N62WPP3 stamped? N has denoted Samsung in the past hasn't it? Oddly the chip images leaked back in June had a K designation.
It amazes me that iFixIt go all the way to Melbourne to get a few hours head start on their teardown when they don't even have any good competition in the tear down space anyway. Maybe just the threat/possibility of competition arising is enough to make them do it.
It amazes me that iFixIt go all the way to Melbourne to get a few hours head start on their teardown when they don't even have any good competition in the tear down space anyway. Maybe just the threat/possibility of competition arising is enough to make them do it.
Looks like the guys at Chipworks found the M7!! here's their teardown: http://goo.gl/H65BgS
Excellent! And welcome to the forum.
So, Samsung after all. Guess they'll have the luxury of using one of their own smartphone OS to use once they finish Samsueing the 64-bit CPU. Not all HW competitors have that luxury though. No idea if Tizen or Bada is easily modifiable though.
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What is the reason why you are asking? Does it really matter? Is it just raw curiosity or is there some other reason?
Don't know @flux8's reason, but assume a lot of people would like to know if DED's speculation in
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/09/14/after-its-disastrous-exynos-5-octa-samsung-may-have-lost-apples-a7-contract-to-tsmc turns out to be true.
So far, there are a lot of indications to the opposite, but no final proof. Anyhow, I do not think it is too relevant either way. The article contained a lot of truth and interesting facts, no matter if that conclusion was correct or not. Even people with a lot of insight into the business had endless discussions about the amount of transistors on this die size, all coming to different conclusions. Some claiming it must be Intel, some claiming it must be TSMC, some claiming it must be Samsung, some claiming you can't get to this transistor count at this size and 28 nm, others saying you can (as it seems GPU transistors, which make up a huge part of a SoC, can be much denser than CPU ones)... I have barely ever read so many mutually exclusive and 100% contrarian opinions on any topic outside religion and politics lately.
At some point Samsung will lose Apple as a customer, everybody knowing Apple knows that. If this is today or tomorrow... what the?
Sell it to Will It Blend .com
http://willitblend.com/videos/view/129
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What is the reason why you are asking? Does it really matter? Is it just raw curiosity or is there some other reason?
What is the reason you are asking for the reason he is asking? Does it really matter?
Is it just raw curiosity or is there some other reason?
Never mind the A7, where's the M7, iFixit couldn't find it.
All these tear downs and no one has bothered to determine who made the A7 yet, I thought that was extremely newsworthy?!
They have to start xraying inside the chip to determine actual manufacturer. Chip probably needs to be dismounted, all which takes time.
Actually you don't know whether Samsung is building the A7. With no official news to back yes or no for certain the pretty-well-connected Anandtech feels comfortable in saying it's still being supplied by Samsung.
http://anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/2
EDIT: Is that N62WPP3 stamped? N has denoted Samsung in the past hasn't it? Oddly the chip images leaked back in June had a K designation.
It amazes me that iFixIt go all the way to Melbourne to get a few hours head start on their teardown when they don't even have any good competition in the tear down space anyway. Maybe just the threat/possibility of competition arising is enough to make them do it.
No different than last year:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/20/ifixits_iphone_5_teardown_begins_hours_after_device_availability
... and claiming the A7 is a Samsung built component.
Excellent! And welcome to the forum.
So, Samsung after all. Guess they'll have the luxury of using one of their own smartphone OS to use once they finish Samsueing the 64-bit CPU. Not all HW competitors have that luxury though. No idea if Tizen or Bada is easily modifiable though.
Decap that A7 and put it under an electron microscope! I wanna see that chips layout!
Oh yes - me too!!
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=143446&pid=1222243#pid1222243
Their newer ones support HEVC/H.265 decoding!
http://www.imgtec.com/powervr/powervr-vxd.asp